Theyve announced over 100 titles this holiday and more to come. Im guessing the limitation on titles is a manpower issue with qa'ing that many titles in a limited amount of time and getting developer approval.
Xbox One adds Xbox 360 backwards compatibility
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Theyve announced over 100 titles this holiday and more to come. Im guessing the limitation on titles is a manpower issue with qa'ing that many titles in a limited amount of time and getting developer approval.
At the actual announce of the feature they said 100+ at launch.
Steverulez
Member
I bet over half of those games that launch at the end of the year are Microsoft Studios published titles which would mean great things for my XBLA back catalogue
charlequin
Banned
No publisher is seriously going to worry about disc support in a feature like this; the "losses" it represents are basically a rounding error. The number of people who want to play some specific 360 game on their Xbone but will buy it in used physical form (despite the digital experience being strictly superior in this particular case) is incredibly small. This feature is there for people who already own 360 games and for impulse purchases off the XBL store.
I mean, look at the PS3 situation. Even as Sony started rolling out more and more PSOne Classics, they left PS1 disc compatibility in and it had no meaningful effect on the business. The convenience of buying these older games digitally is what actually sells these retro/BC titles, not the inability to play the disc versions.
That was a game-of-telephone misinterpretation. What they announced was that they'd aim for 100 titles by the time the feature launches into general release and that they'd use the voting as one thing to help prioritize titles to aim for afterwards. Nothing at all implied that there was some arbitrary limit of titles.
littlebigman
Member
This, plus Best Buy's $175 credit towards the One that they offer for 360 trade ins, is what convinced me to buy myself an Xbox One. Now I just need to find a decent price on Gold and I'll be set.
TheAbsolution
Member
Also, he said no Kinect games. The translation between the emulation and the sensor is basically impossible.
VaultBoy101
Member
Downloads the entire game. You're then playing the game off the HD, not the disc, although the disc is still required for verification.
The file size seems about the same as when the same games were installed on the 360 HD. For example, my Viva Pinata: TIP file is 5.6 GB.
Theres an okayish Groupon deal for them right now ($45)
Just to clarify: downloads the entire thing off the internet, or copies all the data from the disc?
The list in the op is wrong. On my phone but I'm certain the list I saw had keflings
The Internet -- they're repackaged into Xbox one titles
Tainted
Member
Thanks. That could be a bit of a show stopper for me then, my internet isn't quite up to speed to download multiple games...but it is a cool feature for those who will use it
360 games are pretty small. The discs only had like 7.5gb max storage
Once a game is on your hdd you don't need to download it again
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
I would hope that games that only have Kinect support but don't use it in any real meaningful way are still eligible for backwards compatibility, like Mass Effect 3.
Should be as the 360 emulator would simply see no kinect connected...well at least thats how I would imagine it to work.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
This is how I hope it works at the very least. It almost has to given that a lot of the later 360 titles incorporated Kinect in some way.
lifeexpectancy
Member
Just wanted to say that I tested this out yesterday morning. For the first time, I am impressed with the XB1 without reservation. I got invited into the preview they day prior by a friend when this was announced. I'd never had any desire to be in the preview program prior. Within 24hrs I got the message from XBL, downloaded the update, and was rolling.
I wasn't sure how to go about finding/trying the preliminary preview of the backwards compatability. I couldn't find it, so I was thinking "meh, overrated".
I went into my games library to re-download Guacamelee so I could do the new achievements in the next couple days. What did I see right there amongst all my Xbox One games? I saw 360 games that I have downloaded on my account before that are part of the initial batch of games. Clicked on Banjo Kazooie, Nuts and Bolts, downloaded it, and started playing. Impressions:
1. Load times are definitely faster than they were on the 360. I still had my retail disk of Nuts and Bolts so I turned on my 360 and tested them out side-by-side, and the XB1 definitely loaded it faster from the digital copy than my 360 could (and it is installed on the hard drive on the 360, if you're wondering). I tested it against the digital download of N&B too since that was a games with gold at one point I think (either that or I bought it digital on sale at some point, b/c it's in my digital purchase history). Even from the digital-only version, the 360 was still slower to load it than the XB1. So however this emulation/repackaging/recompiling/whatever-the-hell-it-is works, it works really well.
2. Image seemed a little crisper. Obviously they didn't uprez it or anything, but it just seemed ever-so-slightly sharper on my XB1 than on the 360. Maybe just a better HDMI signal through the XB1's beefier HDMI cable. I honestly don't know, but I could see a difference. It was akin to the difference between going from 1080i to 1080p, although obviously this isn't a 1080p game.
3. Very convenient to just have my digital 360 games right there in my XB1 digital games library.
If they can get even half of all the games (both retail and XBLA) into this program, it is definitely a massive value-add to the XB1 and will probably convince me to finally get rid of my 360.
This is exactly how it works. As long as the game isn't Kinect-required, but rather simply Kinect-enabled, it would simply play the same way it does on any 360 without a Kinect hooked up.
I wasn't sure how to go about finding/trying the preliminary preview of the backwards compatability. I couldn't find it, so I was thinking "meh, overrated".
I went into my games library to re-download Guacamelee so I could do the new achievements in the next couple days. What did I see right there amongst all my Xbox One games? I saw 360 games that I have downloaded on my account before that are part of the initial batch of games. Clicked on Banjo Kazooie, Nuts and Bolts, downloaded it, and started playing. Impressions:
1. Load times are definitely faster than they were on the 360. I still had my retail disk of Nuts and Bolts so I turned on my 360 and tested them out side-by-side, and the XB1 definitely loaded it faster from the digital copy than my 360 could (and it is installed on the hard drive on the 360, if you're wondering). I tested it against the digital download of N&B too since that was a games with gold at one point I think (either that or I bought it digital on sale at some point, b/c it's in my digital purchase history). Even from the digital-only version, the 360 was still slower to load it than the XB1. So however this emulation/repackaging/recompiling/whatever-the-hell-it-is works, it works really well.
2. Image seemed a little crisper. Obviously they didn't uprez it or anything, but it just seemed ever-so-slightly sharper on my XB1 than on the 360. Maybe just a better HDMI signal through the XB1's beefier HDMI cable. I honestly don't know, but I could see a difference. It was akin to the difference between going from 1080i to 1080p, although obviously this isn't a 1080p game.
3. Very convenient to just have my digital 360 games right there in my XB1 digital games library.
If they can get even half of all the games (both retail and XBLA) into this program, it is definitely a massive value-add to the XB1 and will probably convince me to finally get rid of my 360.
This is exactly how it works. As long as the game isn't Kinect-required, but rather simply Kinect-enabled, it would simply play the same way it does on any 360 without a Kinect hooked up.
I think this is something that's awesome. It makes looking at sales for digital 360 games or even picking up each GWG game (don't download Thief) worth it with the very reasonable chance you'll be able to pull it to the Xbox One.
TheUnsunghero26
Member
Mass Effect Xbox One vs. Xbox 360. All from early parts of the game, but it seems the Xbox One version has shorter loading times and less texture pop-in.
lifeexpectancy
Member
The guy should've attempted to capture some actual gameplay for comparison IMO not just cut scenes. But w/e, kinda shows what I'm talking about, that the BC games generally run better on XB1.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Are they gonna allow games to be BC in small monthly batches like 10 games per month or will it be a big bang in December with 80 new titles being featured? Just wondering.
lifeexpectancy
Member
Just log onto Xbox.com if you want to buy a digital 360 game that has BC. As more titles get released I'm sure there will be a thread here, on XBA, on TA, etc that has a list of all BC games known. Buy it on Xbox.com and it will show up in your library on your XB1.
Holy crap. Not only does the X1 emulate the 360 game, it also loads faster, is somewhat crisper (thank you scaler), less texture popin and smoother framerate? God damned impressive.
I can't wait until digital foundry takes a close look on this (if they do).
StoppedInTracks
Member
I already bought 5 used 360 games since the announcement
It is FANTASTIC for someone like me who never had a 360.Best E3 ever.
Liquid-Swords
Member
I have like $400 in digital games so unless I get confirmation that all my games work I'll still have to keep my 360 hooked up. So Ill have to wait and see...
DanteRavenkin
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whoever wants in send me a friend request and message, i'll be glad to invite you
Sent you a request and a message!
anybody?
It's coming. They're working on figuring out multiple disc releases like LO and Blue Dragon.
joshwaan
Member
Yeah that's something I'd love to know to hey. One would think the answer would be yes but guess will find out later on.
flashmouth
Neo Member
N+!? Holy moly.
Iriscomeback
Member
My reason to buy an Xbox One. Been waiting for this.
Oh ok, I thought maybe xbox had answered that question already.... but yeah I'm really hoping for that feature, would be awesome!!!
Yes.
I imported my Banjo Kazooie save from the cloud, and it had my completed + 2 level save.
I resumed from where I left 3-5 years ago.
Now that is even cooler!!! That needs to be in op!
Just to let you know:
This seems to be the case for Finnsih people, too. Why it turns to german? Idk. But the only thing to change this actually seems to be to set your Xbox one to U.S. or similar. Definitely a case for the preview forums. If it's not already there, somebody should post it.
Wow turned on my Xbox to download the gears beta and this showed up
Awesome, my library of golden games are gonna shoot trough the roof when they start adding more games!