E3 2015: Horizon: Zero Dawns Incredible Balance of Action and RPG
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jackissocool
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I'm so fucking excited for this game. Can't wait to really hear how the RPG systems work.
No. A-loy (or because I'm a linguist: [eloi])
No. A-loy (or because I'm a linguist: [eloi])
To me this instantly disproves that the robots are a hivemind, which was bandied about in the reveal thread. It supports my view that they're essentially just robotic animals, each trying to survive. Also you just know you're gonna be able to have a robo dog companion.IGN said:
KillerSloth
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The press is really praising it after playing it, really good sign, this looks like it is going to be a great one. I'm excited for this.
Well they didn't play it they seen it
KillerSloth
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Well they didn't play it they seen it
Oh my bad, still everything we have heard is highly positive, glowing even.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
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I wonder if that's a hint for a big reveal. Maybe the "humans" are all robots too.
Callibretto
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the humans are all T1000
I think we'd find out pretty quickly with the number of humans getting mashed up by robot dinosaurs lol. Not to mention there will probably be children at some of the villages and cities etc.
jackissocool
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Yeah I don't think the trailer is misleading us. It's just leaving a lot of question unanswered. they won't do Shyamalan level twists where "we robots the whole time!" or any of that garbage.
Shpeshal Nick
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Sounds like it's right up my alley.
donutzsick
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Glad leveling up is present. Now I just need to know how the writing is
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/g...gle&utm_medium=ppc&utm_campaign=brand+horizon
I bet some dinos are easier to hunt at night.
Lmao.
Orthogonal
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If by dumb, you mean you are speechless at how amazing it is, then I agreee.
0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55
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Dinotopia
just add mech-dino's
just add mech-dino's
edit: nvm sorry
jackissocool
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Here's my current theory on what the machines are and how the world came to be:
I don't think it was a terminator-style intentional elimination of the humans. I think humans created AI (although not necessarily human level) and that the AI just had the natural desire to survive and propagate because it was essentially a living thing. Somehow, the natural survival drive of the machines conflicted with humans, though again, not in a warfare sense - more just separate species competing. The machines simply out competed the humans. Most likely, there is also something they changed about the nature of the world (targeted EMPs?) so that technology that wasn't them simply doesn't work. Then they begin to evolve like wildlife. They did it very quickly, and a thousand years later we have robotic wildlife that is a part of the ecosystem and has probably replaced most large animals.
Humans weren't eliminated, but most died and all their infrastructure and electronic record keeping vanished/collapsed. Especially since they were more advanced than modern day, the loss was even more devastating and led to the collapse of large-scale civilization. Unable to use complex technology, humans returned to hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Even if I'm wrong with EMP theory, I don't think an explanation is necessary for why most humans live that way - culture does not have a direction and society does not automatically move towards more advanced technology.
Now, the humans use the mechanical processes of the machines (which seem like they process organic matter into... something. Food? Most likely) to survive. They incorporate aspects of the machines into their tools because it's high quality metal that can damage the machines. The machines are simply evolving and surviving. I suspect that they reproduce in a relatively natural, animalistic way - probably not sex and babies, but I bet they don't have factories set up anywhere. I don't think anyone is pulling the strings, I don't there's a hive mind or supreme AI, and I don't think they're all necessarily on the same side. They process organic matter as an energy source (think ethanol) and possibly as a remnant of the functions humans originally built them for. They aren't intelligent because intelligence isn't always advantageous - most organisms succeed without human-level intelligence.
It talks about setting up traps and driving machines into them. The trailer showed taking out the T rex bot with a wire crossbow to stop it from moving. You could knock parts off and use it against them immediately. And other previews have said there are more than a hundred specific weak points to attack, expose, and damage. Then add in a variety of weapons with different abilities and use of terrain... sounds like a lot of depth to me.
I don't think it was a terminator-style intentional elimination of the humans. I think humans created AI (although not necessarily human level) and that the AI just had the natural desire to survive and propagate because it was essentially a living thing. Somehow, the natural survival drive of the machines conflicted with humans, though again, not in a warfare sense - more just separate species competing. The machines simply out competed the humans. Most likely, there is also something they changed about the nature of the world (targeted EMPs?) so that technology that wasn't them simply doesn't work. Then they begin to evolve like wildlife. They did it very quickly, and a thousand years later we have robotic wildlife that is a part of the ecosystem and has probably replaced most large animals.
Humans weren't eliminated, but most died and all their infrastructure and electronic record keeping vanished/collapsed. Especially since they were more advanced than modern day, the loss was even more devastating and led to the collapse of large-scale civilization. Unable to use complex technology, humans returned to hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Even if I'm wrong with EMP theory, I don't think an explanation is necessary for why most humans live that way - culture does not have a direction and society does not automatically move towards more advanced technology.
Now, the humans use the mechanical processes of the machines (which seem like they process organic matter into... something. Food? Most likely) to survive. They incorporate aspects of the machines into their tools because it's high quality metal that can damage the machines. The machines are simply evolving and surviving. I suspect that they reproduce in a relatively natural, animalistic way - probably not sex and babies, but I bet they don't have factories set up anywhere. I don't think anyone is pulling the strings, I don't there's a hive mind or supreme AI, and I don't think they're all necessarily on the same side. They process organic matter as an energy source (think ethanol) and possibly as a remnant of the functions humans originally built them for. They aren't intelligent because intelligence isn't always advantageous - most organisms succeed without human-level intelligence.
It talks about setting up traps and driving machines into them. The trailer showed taking out the T rex bot with a wire crossbow to stop it from moving. You could knock parts off and use it against them immediately. And other previews have said there are more than a hundred specific weak points to attack, expose, and damage. Then add in a variety of weapons with different abilities and use of terrain... sounds like a lot of depth to me.
Omega Kirby
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So open world monster hunter with more rpg elements and story.
I'm not even sure I can properly articulate how fantastic this looks and sounds. That reveal was excellent too. It showed some gameplay, gave us a premise and had enough to make me like the main character almost immediately. The tidbits in the OP just reinforce that.
I love that we are going to be able to explore this world and take in all kinds of lore and secrets. Also the blend of action and rpg sounds fantastic. I'm so excited for this game.
I love that we are going to be able to explore this world and take in all kinds of lore and secrets. Also the blend of action and rpg sounds fantastic. I'm so excited for this game.
What about my post don't you get? Setting wiretaps between rocks, pinning enemies down with rope wire, gunning them down with different explosive tipped arrows, shooting parts off of other dinosaurs and using them as weapons, using emp type weapons to stun enemies, targeting a multitude if weak spots and so on. There seems to be a good range in the way you can hunt and take on the machines.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Exactly what they said in the rewind theater video, this is the surprise best game of E3 2015. And that's a tall order in a conference that had The Last Guardian, Final Fantasy VII Remake and Uncharted 4: A Thief's End.
Yep this was awesome, I imagine different robodons will have sweet parts that shoot stuff.
Yep this was awesome, I imagine different robodons will have sweet parts that shoot stuff.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
That's what their bows are made of in the trailer, she has an electric bow among others, and her spear has a metal tip. We'll get to do exactly that, sounds like a dream game from an ambitious studio.
I'm afraid this is this year's The Division/Destiny/Watchdogs. E3 has a tendency to hype shit up to 11 and then keep that hype pressed up to launch day. Maybe The Division will turn out great but Destiny and Watchdogs, both heavy E3 media darlings, ended up disappointing me. Hell, even Bloodborne turned out to just be good and not mindblowing like I was led to believe.
Yep you can make armor too.
There was a science fiction story that I read a while ago about an AI that was created to maintain the balance of nature in a fragile eco system. At first, the AI attempted to simply modify the animals (in this case it was aliens on another planet) so that certain traits would be more likely to survive. I don't remember the full details about this, but if I recall correctly it involved some sort of nanomachines augmenting the creatures. During a conflict between two warring human factions, one of the factions introduced a virus into the AI. The virus was initially done to essentially change the species to hostile to the other faction, but due to an error in the code, also got rid of some of the protections that was built into the AI in terms of what it means to be alive. As a result, the AI determined that the best way to preserve the species was instead to replace the species with more and more machinery. The two factions lost control at this point, and the world was left with an AI slowly but surely manipulation all life to machine.
Since the announcement of Horizon, I've been trying to find this story again, but have failed. I'm curious though if it may have served as some inspiration for the background.
Since the announcement of Horizon, I've been trying to find this story again, but have failed. I'm curious though if it may have served as some inspiration for the background.
Callibretto
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the trex she fight in the trailer had 93 destructible armor that reveal a weakpoint, it also had 12 different attacks which we've only seen probably 3 attack (rushing you, tail swipe, and that long range missile at the start of the fight)
the point is, the way to take down T-Rex is not a forced sequence of destroy armor to reveal weakpoint > destroy weapon part and use it against it > hold it down with tether bow > hit the weakpoint for massive damage
KillerSloth
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2 ubisoft games and destiny, I wouldn't worry this is a first party title. BB was great, opinions man.
CrimsonSquall
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Thrilled for this. Looks like Biowares got some pretty hefty competition with this one. Sony also continuing to prove why they are top dawwwwg
OrbitalBeard
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Outside of Cuphead, this is my most anticipated game at the moment. Kudos to Shuhei Yoshida and Sony for giving Guerrilla the opportunity to work on a new IP that looks as cool as this. I can't wait to check it out for myself.
Callibretto
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it's just a small team of 20 or so people coming up with ideas and prototypes and pre-production in general. when ShadowFall shipped is when they go full production on this probably
