Bungie defends Destiny: The Taken King's £/$40 price tag (Eurogamer)
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The Bookerman
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That's not the luke I remember from 1up yours. Quite ironic actually.
Ayy we seeing a max level of 40 something that's awesome
This took a ridiculous amount of time to find. IGN's video search is awful.
This is what I was referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBlMCAHfTNU&feature=youtu.be
It's an IGN interview with Deej, but in the background, during the entire interview, a play through of a new strike runs. Jump to about the 5 minute mark to see some of the new mechanics, and the transition into the new space for the boss. At about 6 minute mark, they show what starts to happen with the boss fight.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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I'm so happy this game never sucked me in. I got Destiny free with my Xbox One. Played till level 20 then traded it in for 55.
Gotta feel for all the folks addicted and who will pay for this.
Gotta feel for all the folks addicted and who will pay for this.
Hidden One
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I really wish the millions who still play this wouldn't support this "expansion"
Gamer @ Heart
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While i have issues with the pricing of the last two "expansions", i dont think its fair to look at aged content in quite the manner you have.
In an evolving online game like this, previous content becomes the baseline for stuff moving forward and is discounted appropriately.
I would imagine the individual packs will be removed once TTK is out. If not, thats extra fucked up.
Bry0
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That is a different topic, the issue here is one of value. And those other games still deliver more of it than Destiny has, and at this rate, ever will. Despite these games being in a different genre, that does not excuse destiny for giving consumers poor value.
Orochinagis
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In the vidoc they showed we will revisit Terminus and revisit the Nexus strike
It looks like they have bigger plans for "Quests" (not the same thing as missions in Destiny) with TTK. They have a whole new tab for it in the main menu screen:
I preffer several main quest or at least faction quests but I think is asking too much of them
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
Well Square-Enix did it with Final Fantasy XIV:A Realm Reborn so it's not out of the realm of possibility but like you said it all depends if their willing to put in the time,effort, and money to make it happen.
x24hrs2livex
Banned
Not even close. MS is still suffering from their PR disaster. Destiny fans will happily rebuy the base game just for some silly shaders. Not even diehard Xbox Stans wanted anything to do with XB1 pre DRM reversal
Eh, I don't think that's what they're saying. It's more about not fragmenting the player base so that there's parity going forward. Once TTK hits I doubt you'll see many vanilla copies of Destiny on shelves.
except in the used pile of course
Gamer @ Heart
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Why? People enjoying a game doesn't effect you in the fucking slightest. This mentality is similar to the blanket hate for f2p as a concept, its fucking dumb.
Sola Scriptura
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You want your bottom line? Here's your bottom line:
Activi$ion will force Bungie to monetize Destiny content the way Activi$ion executive$ want said content to be monetized. No exceptions.
If Activi$ion wants you to pay the exact same price for even less content than you originally paid said price for, they're betting that you'll do it, however begrudgingly.
Don't like it? Tell Activi$ion to shove it, primarily by refusing to buy the new content.
This is only year one, people. You ready for 9 more years of Activi$ion attempting to separate you from your wallet with greedy DLC and expansion prices?
Activi$ion will force Bungie to monetize Destiny content the way Activi$ion executive$ want said content to be monetized. No exceptions.
If Activi$ion wants you to pay the exact same price for even less content than you originally paid said price for, they're betting that you'll do it, however begrudgingly.
Don't like it? Tell Activi$ion to shove it, primarily by refusing to buy the new content.
This is only year one, people. You ready for 9 more years of Activi$ion attempting to separate you from your wallet with greedy DLC and expansion prices?
KillerSloth
Banned
Yes I agree, but value differs for each person...I know many that prefer the value destiny gives them over an MMO....Value is subjective.
Destiny has issues....but it's flaws and hate it gets here is just over the top imo.
weevles
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Seems like it's mostly Luke being terrible at spinning PR. MMO expansions run $40, plus extra for CEs.
Is there really a lack of content in Taken King? I didn't see anything about level caps...are they moving it up with this one?
It hasn't been a real secret that Activision has counted on Destiny being a long term monetization project from day one.
Is there really a lack of content in Taken King? I didn't see anything about level caps...are they moving it up with this one?
It hasn't been a real secret that Activision has counted on Destiny being a long term monetization project from day one.
Saiyan-Rox
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It's a hell of a bundle for new players coming in it's just a shame current players are getting shafted.
Interficium
Banned
Finally at the point in this ridiculous outrage thread where it becomes sub-gamefaqs level and people start replacing S with $. Hilarious.
Everyone in this thread seems to be making a really terrific effort to convince people not to buy The Taken King so maybe ...
Yeah, no, this expansion (no quotes) will sell just fine. Prepare yourself for disappointment.
Gamer @ Heart
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Bungie is almost entirely responsible for how this has turned out. But keep believing it was Activison, because they are the big bad guy i guess?
I will certainly keep an eye on D2. The core of Destiny was pretty good, it was just all the other stuff that was half-baked or badly designed. Some of the earlier issues got patched but the way they handled things was abysmal. Especially for a team with such a name behind them.
KillerSloth
Banned
That's ridiculous, let people like what they like, I don;t get how people seem offended there are a lot f people who enjoy destiny.
MrGreencastle
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That Strike looks really cool. All those camera angles and stuff they're doing there really makes me want a Theatre mode, though
Bry0
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That's true, it is subjective, especially with a game as divisive as Destiny, though I do think the comparisons to MMOs are fair.
As much as I love Destiny, I felt the DLCs were both kinda lame, and it leaves me with little faith that the expansion will be substantial enough to change my mind. I hope I am wrong.
Nice avatar btw.
Fully voiced cinematics are a minus if they're of the same quality as what was previously produced.
Sola Scriptura
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It's both. The two have become one flesh.
Princess Carl
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Activision, and whatever/whomever made them to scrap the entire story Joe Staten had written for the original game.
Ingueferroque
Banned
The game in your avatar has its own DLC transgressions. Doesn't stop you from enjoyment, does it?
I love Destiny, and will be there day 1 for this, but as a HUGE Bungie fan this just rubs the wrong way. Remember when Bungie said to the effect "Don't worry about us signing on with Activision this will be different"....yeah different in a bad fucking way. Especially with all the " Love Bungie" shit they add on to their betas and such in the disclaimers. Almost seems like a slap in the face. Again the content we are bitching about isn't even a big deal, its just the entire point of the whole thing. The attitude that Bungie has towards the whole ordeal is just the cherry...or should I say piece of shit on top. Do the right thing Bungie and just give everyone who has bought the base game and both expansions all the extra in game content that comes with the 80 dollar version. Prove to us that there is hope for this industry instead of putting the almighty dollar first and foremost over your most loyal fans.
You can get the disc for £45 if you shop around.
Sola Scriptura
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Yes, yes, because character replacement, as we all know, is a standard indicator of forum quality level.
Give me a break. Spent a lot of time on GameFAQs, have you?
Seriously. It's still hilarious to me that at launch one whole area on the map was actually dedicated to a 5 minute cutscene.
Activision and Bungie (Bungivision) don't have to forget their veteran players, they could offer a SKU of TTK that includes the CE bonuses yet doesn't come with the added cost of content we've already spent upwards of $90 on.
Price TTK at $40, standalone. For people who have Destiny + Expansion I & II.
TTK Collector's Edition $60. Comes with the digital CE bonuses for people with Destiny + Expansion I & II
After those, then you still have the Legendary Edition and the physical CE as they already were.
That's how I'd try and do it, so as to not completely piss off my existing userbase.
Sola Scriptura
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Bungie, by becoming bedfellows with Activision, is responsible? Yes.
Bungie should have stopped pussy-footing around and actually made Destiny an MMO. At least they could have justified expansion packs if they put the time and effort in to make them worth this.
They struggled trying to combine an MMO feel with Halo. Early choices they made were classic "We don't know how MMO's work!"
I wonder if they will do the eventual GOTY Edition and pack in the last year+ worth of content?
They struggled trying to combine an MMO feel with Halo. Early choices they made were classic "We don't know how MMO's work!"
I wonder if they will do the eventual GOTY Edition and pack in the last year+ worth of content?
Saiyan-Rox
Member
I just saw the price on GAME and went from there (Lousy company).
If the content comes as a DL code then I guess you could sell em? but I doubt that'll be the case.
Rran
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Hahha I was thinking the same thing--the way he so casually led into the issue of some people having to buy the game twice to unlock everything kinda made it seem like he was about to offer a solution of sorts... but no, not gonna do that. Kinda funny that he didn't even try to justify their actions lol.
That's what I'm thinking. It may be the only way for UK folk to get The Taken King for a reasonable price.
superstu64
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The really frustrating thing for me about Destiny is it could have been the best shooter ever, the production values and feel are just perfect but there is so little to do. I'm no good at PvP stuff so the PvE was perfect, but after the initial couple of months it dawned on me I had seen nothing new for weeks.
What's the betting that there will be further DLC for the expansion?
I'd much rather pay a monthly sub for this kind of thing if the content remains so sparse.
What's the betting that there will be further DLC for the expansion?
I'd much rather pay a monthly sub for this kind of thing if the content remains so sparse.
There wasn't even 5% of the required amount of content for this to be an MMO. Within a week everyone was already grinding the same "obtain 10 helium core" daily quests.
ElRenoRaven
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Wow. The arrogance of how Luke defended it is insane. As someone said earlier it's basically fuck you give us your money. Rebuy the damn thing if you want everything. Just wow. As a long time Bungie fan that just really pisses me off.
Pejo
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The funny thing is that for new players, those dance emotes would mean absolutely nothing, unless that was the buying decision for them. Like they watched 150 "let's plays" and said "man dancing in destiny looks sick, but I'm waiting for new dances before I buy!"
That is exclusively going to appeal to people that have already played destiny and are tired of the current racial dances, and are knee deep in the collect-a-thon. It's a sham that he's saying "it's for new and existing players."
Then again, they have shown that they're not afraid to set the bar on being assholes to fans so high, then move it and manage to look like good guys. I can almost see it now:
2 months after the game comes out, all CE's are sold to people that want them. "Hey guys, we heard the fans and we listened, here come the dance emotes available to everybody, for only 12.99!"
The bad thing is, I love the gameplay, and the game at its core, but I am using my wallet to not support this shitty treatment of fans.
That is exclusively going to appeal to people that have already played destiny and are tired of the current racial dances, and are knee deep in the collect-a-thon. It's a sham that he's saying "it's for new and existing players."
Then again, they have shown that they're not afraid to set the bar on being assholes to fans so high, then move it and manage to look like good guys. I can almost see it now:
2 months after the game comes out, all CE's are sold to people that want them. "Hey guys, we heard the fans and we listened, here come the dance emotes available to everybody, for only 12.99!"
And 60000 game currency, unlocked after repeating the story missions in reverse and destroying 3 exotics for Motes of Regret!
The bad thing is, I love the gameplay, and the game at its core, but I am using my wallet to not support this shitty treatment of fans.