SCOTUS strikes down gay marriage bans, legalizing marriage equality nationwide

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ivysaur12 said:
I don't doubt that this will happen, at least a little bit. Wealthy gay donors will be less inclined to give money to the HRC or other gay rights group who are trying to advocate for poor, non-white, LGBT persons and issues of employment and housing, among other things.

But there's been a sea change in opinion. These issues will still be fought for and will be won.

(I know you're just benji-ing, but I thought I'd given an honest reply)
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Log cabin republicans have exsisted for years.
 
TCRS said:
so she wants legalization but is lamenting the legalization? I don't get it
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So I don't agree with her, but you really don't understand what she is saying?

1. LGBT civil rights groups got a lot of funding, mostly because of the push for gay marriage.

2. Gay marriage legalized. That is what those civil rights groups were fighting for. Woohoo. But funding for these groups may dry up now that their big battle has been won.

3. With a lack of funding, will the fight for anti-employment discrimination be successful? What about the issues trans people face?
 
stufte said:
I fucking lol'd.
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Holy Shit. I LOL'd hard.
 
Fox318 said:
Log cabin republicans have exsisted for years.
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And they've been banned from speaking at GoP conventions as recently as a few months ago.

Call me optimistic, but I don't see wealthy gays abandoning the working ones for the Tax Safety of the GoP until the GoP's more Fundamentalist/Homophobic members start dying off, which we won't fully see for a couple decades.
 
Just wanted to say, I've noticed a lot of people -- not on this forum specifically, but friends -- feeling deflated today. When you get to the top of a mountain, it's easy to look across the horizon and see all the other ones waiting to be scaled. It's easy to not find satisfaction in the work that you've done as a citizen fighting, in your own way, for the cause you believe in, and become bogged down in just how many challenges are out there, waiting to be tackled, with a depth and breath of complexity no less intimidating than the cause for LGBT issues.

I recommend anyone feeling this way, to recognize just how much impact they have made. On this forum, thanks to well-moderated, civil, intelligent discourse, minds get changed on a daily basis. What's hard to do isn't particularly passing laws; it's convincing ordinary people that the laws that need to be passed are the right thing to do. Anyone who has been involved in this and have served in the cause ought to take some satisfaction today. It doesn't matter to me if you've been in the streets protesting, walking in pride parades, or if you had that clash on Facebook where you made your feelings known -- if you, at any time, spent your time donating your mind, words or heart to the cause in any way, this victory belongs in part to you. It also belongs to the many LGBT individuals out there who have waited patiently for this process -- and engaged directly in this process -- to make it a reality.

It's sometimes easy to think that the small things we do on a daily basis don't matter in the long run. I, and many of my friends, are proof that this is not true -- minds can be changed, and effort you expend in doing the right thing can become the very anchor others use to involve themselves in a fight for what is good.

So while congratulations ought to go worldwide for these things, I want to point out GAFfers specifically and say -- congratulations. Your words and deeds matter, and you change minds. And that's worth not just some satisfaction today -- be prideful. You've all earned it. And get ready to scale more mountains.
 
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Really loving this, but I'm cool with either one really. Love seeing all of my favorite sites logo's being updated. Really cool day
 
I love the salt posted here, but I hate to see it in person. The separation makes it funnier to me, as opposed to just enraging.

Drinking in celebration. I can marry the woman I love anywhere in this country. Good times!
 
This is so amazing. As I heard it, I had the biggest smile on my face and cried a few for my human brothers and sisters who will now be treated with some dignity in this country of ours.

Momentous day.
 
Dr. Malik said:
I thought the news would be all over this all day but I guess an escaped convict and his tracks are more important
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Yup. This is a once-in-generation court ruling - something that'll be up there with Brown and Griswold - and they instead decide to cover a local crime story? Such bullshit.
 
I remember back when Prop 8 (in California) was initiated that started this whole cascade of states slowly and surely legalizing gay marriage. Even though I was disappointed in the state of California for even proposing such an idea, I'm grateful for its existence as it served as the catalyst to legalize gay marriage nationwide 7 years later.

Congrats America, we finally did it.
 
excelsiorlef said:
I love when conservatives want to move to Canada,

Shows they don't know Canada.
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Specifically after gay marriage too. I know things like taxes/healthcare are a bit more nuanced than "is this legal y/n" but holy shit.

It's a silly sentiment anyway but at least liberals wanting to move to Canada after something doesn't go their way makes sense.
 
Republicans are all about "jobs" and shit aren't they? Keeping the "middle class working" and free of Obamas tax-tyranny?

Think of the all businesses that are fucking jacked up about this ruling.

Card makers, cake bakers (well... unless they live in Colorado or wherever that one shop was), caterers, party planners, rental halls, suit/dress makers, travel agents, Macys/anywhere that has registers for gifts, photographers, notary publics...

Hell even divorce lawyers are already planning extensions on their houses awaiting the influx of clients about to lose half their shit a couple years down the road.

To be against same-sex marriage is to be against jobs GOP.
 
AbsolutBro said:
Honest question here: how does Pansexual differ from Bisexual? Google basically tells me "bisexual, but more fluid" which really doesn't answer the question.
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Easiest way to put it is:

Bisexuals are into men and women.
Pansexuals are into people.

In a society where transgender individuals and the like aren't hard-wired by culture to be considered a form of "other," bisexuals and pansexuals would essentially be the same thing. Pansexuality, while still appreciative of gender (in all its forms - gender fluidity, androgyny, transgender, masculine, feminine, etc.), doesn't use it as its main form of identifying attraction, while bisexuality in name refers to "two [genders]," and that's typically where the (not so) big difference lies.
 
F.U. Ted Cruz.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/ted-...-the-darkest-24-hours-in-our-nations-history/

Republican presidential contender Ted Cruz said on The Sean Hannity that with the Supreme Court’s rulings on gay marriage and Obamacare, the United States had seen the worst 24 hours in its existence.

“Today is some of the darkest 24 hours in our nation’s history,” Cruz said.

Host Sean Hannity seemed to agree. “I couldn’t say it more eloquently.”

“Yesterday and today were both naked and shameless judicial activism,” Cruz continued. “Neither decision– the decision yesterday rewriting Obamacare… for the second time. Six justices joined the Obama administration, you now have Barack Obama, Kathleen Sebelius, and six justices responsible for forcing failed disaster of a law on millions of Americans, and simply rewriting the law in a way that is fundamentally contrary to their judicial oath

“And then today, this radical decision purporting to down the marriage laws of every state. It has no connection to the United States Constitution,” he said. “They are simply making it up. It is lawless, an
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Marriage isn't totally equal yet as other multiple partner couples, some incestual couples, and other arrangements between consenting adults are still denied their rights. Don't slack, keep up the fight America.
 
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