PantherLotus
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no? think you're missing the implied "to them" there at the end. What kind of life does doing this seem like a reasonable option? That was my point.
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Macon Walmart overrun, sacked by 50 teenagers -- more civilized than the comments tho
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no? think you're missing the implied "to them" there at the end. What kind of life does doing this seem like a reasonable option? That was my point.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Yes, but language changes.
AbsolutBro
Member
I like that you focus on the walmart damage instead of, as I did, pointing out that they also ASSAULTED someone.
I dont care how shitty your life is, that guy on the rascal probably didnt have a whole lot to do with putting you there if hes shopping at fucking walmart.
But please, continue painting me as a racist becuase I dont support 50 shitheads who trashed a store OR the numerous shitheads who spout racist shit, while turning a blind eye to assault.
Christopher
BDE (Big Dad Energy)
The comments sections in any news story is just insane and I can't believe what I read. The pride parade too I swore I'd never read comments again I can't believe the hatred in people...
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
Someone was physically assaulted, I wouldn't call this reasonable expression.
The comments are abhorrent.
Mermandala
Member
"I'm going to straight bust some apple juice bottles right on the floor and then totally kick this ham across the store!"
ThankYouDaletech
Banned
You know you're an outlier, right? Not the part about committing crimes, but doing well for yourself despite being allowed minimal opportunities.
TheSpoiler
Member
I think what the OP is getting at is that when black people are involved, they are seen as animals or beasts rather than humans. This event was horrible, and in no way should be marginalized by the discussion of race, but what makes even more awful is that people take the chance to start generalizing an entire race of people (from the safety of the internet, no less!).
That doesn't mean we can't discuss how fucking absolutely insane it is that 50 people wrecked a damn Walmart and assaulted someone, but let's keep it in the boundaries of that and avoid using it as an excuse to shit all over an entire race of people.
Not saying NeoGAF is in that last part, but as a whole.
That doesn't mean we can't discuss how fucking absolutely insane it is that 50 people wrecked a damn Walmart and assaulted someone, but let's keep it in the boundaries of that and avoid using it as an excuse to shit all over an entire race of people.
Not saying NeoGAF is in that last part, but as a whole.
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
Oh, give me a break. Looting a store and assaulting a customer aren't "expression." And you know nothing about the kids' circumstances or rationale. Likewise, you know nothing of the commenters' circumstances. Perhaps the commenters "live such a shitty existence this type of expression seems like a reasonable option." Would that change how you respond to their comments?
Stop romanticizing anti-social behavior.
The Elite
BOSS
I get what the OP is trying to say but this might be the worst execution if an argument I have seen in my time.
"A bad thing has happened but this bad thing is worse."
Because what is happening here is the racial version of this.
I don't think anyone can deny that is what this is. Do we need to weigh a shitty thing happening against the racist assholes commenting on it?
Squirrel Killer
Member
I think this is the separate thread you're asking for. You're free to make the thread about the news story. You can even direct people who want to discuss the racist comments to this thread.
MatthewB92
Member
Use to live in Macon so i can believe this.
Sure, but in this instance where there is clear video of a large group of people ransacking a store for no reason other than to cause damage, I'm not going to assume that someone who uses the word "thugs" to describe them actually meant something else.
diffusionx
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ElectricBlanketFire
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In the case of Facebook/YouTube comments, it's a pretty safe bet.
Pyramid head
Banned
Is this a scene from Attack on Titan?How in the world did 40 to 50 people only manage to do $2000 worth of damage? Did they skip the electronics department?
Historical Vandals would be less than impressed.
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PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
What's amazing to me is that so many responses are "why is unguarded, casual, vile racism with public-facing accounts news?" I don't know how that's not news. It should always be news, and every one of those people should be shamed out of a career forever.
Yes, exactly.
Look man I don't think you're a racist. I just don't think some weak flashmob with a little vandalism and pulling an old guy off a rascal is enough to justify this shit which I believe is the root cause. If you want to gloss over that and wonder where their parents are ... fine by me. But still indicative of the way you think.
Right. I think this blatant racism is far more newsworthy than a bit of vandalism. Every one of these people need to lose their jobs on the spot. We can't just say "welp, that's not news, that's NORMAL!" Completely unacceptable.
Yes, exactly.
Look man I don't think you're a racist. I just don't think some weak flashmob with a little vandalism and pulling an old guy off a rascal is enough to justify this shit which I believe is the root cause. If you want to gloss over that and wonder where their parents are ... fine by me. But still indicative of the way you think.
Right. I think this blatant racism is far more newsworthy than a bit of vandalism. Every one of these people need to lose their jobs on the spot. We can't just say "welp, that's not news, that's NORMAL!" Completely unacceptable.
This. You're going to find hateful stuff in comment sections and Facebook feeds about everything. Should they be shamed, I don't have a problem with it.. But I don't know what it adds to the discussion around what these kids did when they assaulted that guy and destroyed property in Wal-mart.
The Elite
BOSS
Amirox did this a lot better during the Baltimore riots with logic and reasoning to what was happening and why.
I think I am would refer people to that thread before this.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1036873&highlight=
More Fun To Compute
Member
It doesn't matter how much it's debunked. It's a viral meme that was obviously based on zero research from the start but people propagate it because it suits them to do so and they don't care to notice when it is proved wrong.
I dream sometimes this is the slogan for America.
That ransacking and the comments are shit and neither should remotely tried to be justified, but at least we can be thankful that poor dude didn't get seriously hurt.
I don't even....No...
I don't even....No...
Oddly different reception between this thread and this one
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1071143&highlight=salt
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1071143&highlight=salt
I think the collective racial thoughts of a society are worse than $2000 worth of damages to Wal Mart. Those words don't live in a bubble. They act as windows that let us know how people like teachers feel about black people. That school teacher showing his racist views points to the fact that he likely does more harm subtly to black kids over his career than $2000 in damages.
AbsolutBro
Member
Oh right, that part where I wondered where their parents are... oh wait, that didnt happen.
That you think a bunch of assholes saying shitty things is somehow worse than actual physical assault of a disabled person says plenty about you. Yes, they said shitty things. Yes, they are likely shitty people. How many of them actually dragged a handicapped guy off a scooter? How many of them trashed a store just for fun? Now how many people in the article did?
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
^We'll just have to agree to disagree. You're more worried about the damage and the assault than what the comments are saying (as everybody in the thread are noting that they are SO COMMON that it's not news!). Ok! Not a lot more to discuss here big guy.
mmmhmmm
mmmhmmm
The Elite
BOSS
I don't think anyone is denying that the comments are shit.
It's the framing of this thread around the news story that is the problem.
The threads are framed entirely different.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
welp hopefully its time for some reactionary idiots to lose their jobs over being racist on Facebook.
lastflowers
Banned
yeah, the word has pretty much been taken over, so I don't use it anymore.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
It's Walmart. I doubt their entire inventory is worth $2000.
baphomet
Member
No, the art is far too good in that picture.
starchild excalibur
Member
So as much as it upsets me to see the comments from people who would make these assumptions about me based off my skin color, I gotta say... I'm a bit more upset that the Wal-Mart was overrun by 50 teens and thousands of dollars of damage caused.
Between the two, honestly, the comments bother me less.
Between the two, honestly, the comments bother me less.
AbsolutBro
Member
Wait, are you comparing gay marriage and vandalism/assault?
User 73706
Banned
at least this one waited to retire before bringing it up
That comparison doesn't make much sense.
In this thread, a group of teens did something pretty terrible and it was followed by terrible comments.
In the thread you linked, gay people literally have done nothing wrong and it was followed by terrible comments.
The argument in the the former is that what the teens did shouldn't be ignored, but it also doesn't justify the comments
The argument in the latter is those are some salty folks, lol look at them.
The comments bother me more than a couple dozen bored fuckwits with more time than respect for property... but they're still fuckwits.
baphomet
Member
It's highly unlikely this was something she just thought of. I'm sure she was a racist asshole when she was teaching as well.
Exr
Member
I...what? You're really trying to compare the two things?
I get what the OP is trying to say but you guys are crashing and burning trying to explain.
It's weird that this is the second time I can remember this happening.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Flash-Mob-Knocks-Over-Silver-Spring-7-Eleven-134286103.html
Remember this?
What gets me is that when I was their age I could barely organize a fucking baseball game let alone a 50-person robbery or vandalism.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Flash-Mob-Knocks-Over-Silver-Spring-7-Eleven-134286103.html
Remember this?
What gets me is that when I was their age I could barely organize a fucking baseball game let alone a 50-person robbery or vandalism.
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