Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Comic-Con Trailer
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I thought that was TDKR which a great movie btw. Come at me.
milquetoast feel good answers. Jonathan Kent does not give the easy answer because there is not one. His goal is for Clark to grow up like a regular human, but he doesn't have all the perfect answers as he is not a Gary Stu father figure.
The Kents raising Clark is about installing into him a sense of humanity and it is still that way in MoS. Pa Kemts actions are as much as they are about ensuring Clark experiences a "human" life as it is about protecting him from outside forces.
YesNOnoNOYes
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... but he is hot though *_____*
Shamrock7r
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He didn't mean that. The way he said it implied that he knew Clark did the right thing and he didn't know how to address it. He was conflicted. I mean, shit, come on guys I dont even think it was subtle. It's pretty damn obvious
Shit like this is why Hollywood thinks its audience members need to have EVERYTHING explained to them.
Because holy shit.
Seriously. I don't know how you can see how Costner says those lines and take away anything else but a father who is worried, emotional, conflicted but also also in a way pragmatic.
Can the Kryptonite be created by World Engine when they used it in Man of Steel? (since Supes pod arrived alone and there was nothing green in the phantom zone)World Engine supposed to change Earth into a planet just like Krypton, so my guess is the Kryptonite with Lex is from the ocean where Superman destroyed the World Engine.
Schweinehund
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It's not just Terrio, I think Affleck is calling some shots too. He's most likely the one that brought him onboard. I don't think Ben would have done this without some level of creative input. Everything WB has done so far shows me that they're treading very carefully.
Yup.
It's been a nontroversy since day one. Jonathan is a conflicted parent in an impossible situation.
Finaika
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You should be Clark Kent's father.
Bobby Roberts
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Reporter chases story about crime wave
Is attacked by Ninjas
Is saved by mutants
One mutant goes to retrieve weapon
Is saved by crazy man in costume after fighting crazy man in costume
Reporter is later attacked by ninjas again.
Saved by mutants again
Is taken to mutant lair, where a flashback occurs
Flashback explains origins of mutants and their leader, as well as their arch nemesis
mutants take reporter home
Mutants return home to find archnemesis has kidnapped leader
Mutants fight with each other over what to do
Ninjas attack Mutants
Crazy man in costume joins the fight out of nowhere, as an entire building burns down
Mutants and Crazy man end up at farm owned by reporters parents
Mutants train ON A FARM
Mutants go to free master
Master gets in fight with archnemesis
Archnemesis falls off a building into a trash compactor
Reporter gets her job back and makes out with crazy man in costume.
This all happens in 93 minutes.
There's nothing in Batman v. Superman that seems all that complicated.
"I can't believe all the destruction caused by Batman fighting Superman, how many died for that?" -a post in 2016
Also yes, It kinda really sucks things have to be explained to people cause they didn't apparently watch the movie. My guess is they didn't care when watching.
another one.
You're goddamn gold you know that Bobby? You are my number one SSSST GUY
Also yes, It kinda really sucks things have to be explained to people cause they didn't apparently watch the movie. My guess is they didn't care when watching.
another one.
You're goddamn gold you know that Bobby? You are my number one SSSST GUY
You're drunk if you don't think that fight isn't going to be in some explicitly abandoned complex where ~nobody could possibly get hurt~.
The whole thematic edge of the movie is one giant response to that specific criticism.
Oh right, I forgot they rent out abandoned places for heroes to fight, sorta like a u-haul but for big fighting areas.
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Killing_Joke
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Reasons why I'm excited
- Ben is going to be great. Loved it since announced.
- It's obvious rewrite was part of the deal. He finds the new script smart. Gives me a lot of hope the Goyer stink is gone.
- Don't care for the Oscar win but anything over 100% Goyer is positive.
- Zack is the king of action. I'm still jizzing over the Batman grapple.
- Love the serious tone.
I like MoS mainly for the action, everything else is pretty awful. If they fix the awful this time around then it has potential to be extremely solid.
- Ben is going to be great. Loved it since announced.
- It's obvious rewrite was part of the deal. He finds the new script smart. Gives me a lot of hope the Goyer stink is gone.
- Don't care for the Oscar win but anything over 100% Goyer is positive.
- Zack is the king of action. I'm still jizzing over the Batman grapple.
- Love the serious tone.
I like MoS mainly for the action, everything else is pretty awful. If they fix the awful this time around then it has potential to be extremely solid.
Miles Quaritch
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Wasn't there a version of the script where he let's Clark save him and is proud of all the people Clark savws during the tornado?
Or was that fan fiction?
This scene has sense, he said that the world wasn't ready for this and he was probably right !
It's pretty dumb.
If what they were looking for was a scene where Jonathan refused to let Clark risk exposure to save his life, they should have went low-key. A simple sequence where Jonathan has a heart attack and, as he's dying, refuses to allow Clark to rush him to the hospital would have worked so much better than the goofy tornado, and would have been more faithful to the source material.
Discotheque
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yeah i had problems with man of steel for sure but johnathan kent was not one of them. it was a refreshing and kind of realist take on his mentor-figure. of course you don't have to agree with his world-view but he advised out of fear and his concerns are actually given life in this trailer.
i'm just worried about the third act turning into another dull ass destruction fest like avengers movies and man of steel became. there are signs of it in this trailer, i hope i'm wrong.
i'm just worried about the third act turning into another dull ass destruction fest like avengers movies and man of steel became. there are signs of it in this trailer, i hope i'm wrong.
Said like that, you're totally right ^^
I'm sorry if you think MoS was great that's okay. If you ask me it was the movie Superman needed. The fights were awesome and I don't even criticize MoS , for the whole massive destruction thing. You can't I mean you CAN"T defend that Pa Kent scene it was beyond idiotic. Especially when his identity was so easy to find out in the first place, they were giving out his identity like candy Superman can definitely movie fast enough not be seen. Nope GTFO with that shit terrible scene.
Just No!
Just No!
unholyrevenger72
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how is he uncaring? by telling Clark he's gonna have to make tough decisions regarding his powers and live with the consequences. Cuz that was the whole point of the "Maybe" conversation. He wants Clark to do the right thing, but only if Clark is ready to accept the responsibilities.
unholyrevenger72
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Except in that scenario their is no risk exposing himself...
Caddywompus
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It's terrible writing to leave such heavy question answered by a single word that can be interpreted in different ways. Especially in the context of talking to a child, it makes no sense to be vague about that answer. I'm fine with a conflicted parent response but have Pa Kent say something more defined " ... [dramatic pause] I... I don't know. I don't have all the answers Clark and neither will you. But the decisions you make not only impact the lives of others but yours as well. All I know is your life is the most important thing to me and I'll do everthing in my power to protect you."
If you're going to keep that ridiculous tornado scene have this speech foreshadow the lenghts a father will go to protect his son's best interests. Or maybe have him talk about the difficultly of holding someone else's life in your hands, and he always wants him to choose life over death. Have that decision torment him more later in the movie with Zod's death.
Every scene with Jonathan Kent in that movie just seemed so poorly handled. They come off clunky and lack the impact a conflicted parent could have in this story.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Dude, Affleck was fucking dead. He was just drained.
I came across this 10 MB Gif: http://i.imgur.com/DtqvvsG.gif
Well done, WB / Snyder. Well done indeed.
Well done, WB / Snyder. Well done indeed.
Sure there is.
He's not that fast in this movie, for starters. He'd be carrying a dude who is literally dying of a heart attack, so maybe super-sonic is not what you want. It's his dad he's dropping off, which might make the connection kind of easy, especially after the school bus incident.
Or you could just have someone else at the farm when he has his heart attack.
Someone had to have said "Let's kill Pa Kent with a tornado" at some point in production, and I just can't sanction that buffoonery.
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Which movie is that brilliant summary of ?
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990).
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Discotheque
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is anybody a bit worried how cavill has no dialogue in this trailer either?
he was a fucking robot in man of steel. the only time i actually saw him act was when pa kent flew away. it's way too early to base judgement off of such early promotions though but man i really hope he doesn't come off as such a non-entity again.
lmao @ that face he makes when ma kent is talking to him. it's like he smelled a really bad fart.
he was a fucking robot in man of steel. the only time i actually saw him act was when pa kent flew away. it's way too early to base judgement off of such early promotions though but man i really hope he doesn't come off as such a non-entity again.
lmao @ that face he makes when ma kent is talking to him. it's like he smelled a really bad fart.
Am a bit worried that we're not getting the Man of Steel tease of Clark Kent as that was my main hope for future Superman films. Think Wayne will get more attention sadly as its Afflecks first.
There was a Clark Kent scene in the trailer.
Looking back, I think Eisenberg had the most lines in the trailer lol.
SCULLIBUNDO
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He's just kind of a Bimbo in these films. There's nothing going on up there. He needs other people to tell him what to do for him to have any direction.
Go watch the Man from UNCLE trailer if you want to see him speaking.
(You don't, he's terrible)
OdysseusVA
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Edit: Vegas preview window showed something different. Sorry. I may try again later.
unholyrevenger72
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Again there is no risk of exposing himself, the town already knows strange things happen around the Kent boy. In the tornado scene there are strangers with no personal connection to Clark.
Well 15 years of reading colorful, hopeful Superman comics kinda does that to you.
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