Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Comic-Con Trailer
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unholyrevenger72
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This is also a good example of weight in the punches
i don't know about weight, but certainly power.
Discotheque
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That's another problem directors still haven't figured how to give us a flying fist fight using wires that looks like the actors are properly planted when throwing punches. The worst offender is Thor in AoU during the Gazebo scene it looks like he's dangling from wires flailing wildly
When they're on the ground this problem doesn't exist because they can plant their feet and use proper form
this gif does no favors for the film either. it's like a next (next) gen MK vs DC game clip or something.
stiff CG puppets hitting each other. that stop superman does when he gets hit in the neck lol. zod vs supe fight sucked. it displayed superman's power convincingly but it still turned into a cartoon at it's expense.
fuck it, go back to the basics brehs:
that power...that impact...
Sibersk Esto
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Now the Superman/Captain Marvel fight from JLU, that was a goddamn super being fight.
this gif does no favors for the film either. it's like a next (next) gen MK vs DC game clip or something.
stiff CG puppets hitting each other. that stop superman does when he gets hit in the neck lol. zod vs supe fight sucked. it displayed superman's power convincingly but it still turned into a cartoon at it's expense.
fuck it, go back to the basics brehs:
that power...that impact...
Well, can't tell who's serious or trolling anymore
Discotheque
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yeah lol the second half of my post really shattered that divide, i was serious about the man of steel gif though. not a fan of what that movie turned into when the fights started. their intentions were cool and it did look powerful but there was too much cartoony animation involved.
Pretty much.
We finally get a "real" fucking fight in a Superman movie for the first time in 50 years....I was pretty giddy when I saw it.
unholyrevenger72
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That's not really a bad thing.
Discotheque
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not in a good way i mean, more like a distracting neo vs. agent smiths fight way. cg doubles still got a long way to go. hopefully in this one the big super-fights look better.
i already think that batarmor stomping on superman is a big improvement over man of steel.
Which is funny you mention it, because it pulls a lot of the same shit that this movie does. Worse, in some cases, if we're talking about 'realness'. At one point, Superman uppercuts Cap, which somehow causes him to fall down, which can't be mere gravity because it completely destroys the building he lands on. If that happened here, people would be giving it shit.
It's better to say that you find the same 'fake' choreography more 'real' in a cartoon, whereas it happening in a live action sequence, it's fakeness stands out. If that's what you mean, okay, but you can't really claim that the Supes/Cap fight is somehow fundamentally different, because if anything, several pieces of the Zod fight seem straight up lifted from the cartoon. It's fundamentally the same thing, just set in a medium where fakery is more accepted.
Gambit 1138
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this gif does no favors for the film either. it's like a next (next) gen MK vs DC game clip or something.
stiff CG puppets hitting each other. that stop superman does when he gets hit in the neck lol. zod vs supe fight sucked. it displayed superman's power convincingly but it still turned into a cartoon at it's expense.
fuck it, go back to the basics brehs:
that power...that impact...
Both gifs look stupid. I dont know why WB can't get better special effects for these super hero films
Discotheque
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the second one is from 1980 dude...
The second gif is from the nightmare sequence clark has in MoS where Zod is an S&M fetishist.
Gambit 1138
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.....and the special effects sucked then too compared to other movies of that year (Empire Strikes Back, etc.)
Where are these special aerial battle effects that you speak of that WB doesn't have access to?
How I feel with EVERY MoS thread
Sibersk Esto
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Probably is more acceptable due to the medium, I just like the way it looks better. It lingers on each punch more, it's creative with it's environment, it just comes off as more visceral.
In contrast the live action fight has goofy shit like Zod's gorilla climb up a building. Maybe it isn't fair because they're different, but the way it's shot in the live action stuff seems off putting and lacks any oomph.
unholyrevenger72
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Name a movie with better CG for real people.
Can we stop acting like CGI is the problem ?
It's not. Poor CGI and what Snyder seems content with, is the problem.
I'm gonna remind you guys this is 3 years old, from an amateur, ONE MAN, production.
I can defend this level of CGI
. But movie isn't finished, really hope they spend a lot of time on that.
It's not. Poor CGI and what Snyder seems content with, is the problem.
I'm gonna remind you guys this is 3 years old, from an amateur, ONE MAN, production.
I can defend this level of CGI
I think it's a variation of the uncanny valley. If it's real-like but clearly not real, it's charming. If it's pretty close to being real, but slightly off, then it's offputting. I agree that animation is a better resource for the Superhero genre as a whole, and criminally underutilized as a storytelling tool by hollywood by relegating it to the kids audience. My only point is that the realness of the choreography isn't an issue in MoS, atleast in the general sense, isn't the issue and it's silly to make it out to be.
Can we stop acting like CGI is the problem ?
It's not. Poor CGI and what Snyder seems content with, is the problem.
I'm gonna remind you guys this is 3 years old, from an amateur, ONE MAN, production.
Yup.
We're definitely being trolled.
You can't possibly be fucking serious.
Tell me for the sake of my sanity, you aren't fucking serious.
Gambit 1138
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Can we stop acting like CGI is the problem ?
It's not. Poor CGI and what Snyder seems content with, is the problem.
I'm gonna remind you guys this is 3 years old, from an amateur, ONE MAN, production.
I can defend this level of CGI. But movie isn't finished, really hope they spend a lot of time on that.
Budgets, how do they work.
Gambit 1138
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Faora had impact.
I thought Clark vs. Faora and Nam was probably the best superpowered fight among recent comic book movies. Fuck me I guess.
The Silver
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love that Zod gorilla climb, shit was the definition of visceral. A super strong super fast being is pissed off and wants to quickly get up building and hurt somebody, yeah he's gonna look like that, this aint the fucking Flash.
privitsan02
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Definitely more interested in this despite the awful Man of Steel. I'm still not feeling Gal Gadot and Jesse in their respective roles however. A thumbs up from me for not spoiling what the hell is going on in that movie beyond their feud and Superman not being liked very much.
Best wishes.
Best wishes.
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The problem with this shot is:
1- They forgot to animate the face or used the wrong footage for it.
2- The stupid punch-waves make it look like a game.
Other than that it would look fine. Although I'd say the framing was not quite appropriate.
unholyrevenger72
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I can defend this level of CGI. But movie isn't finished, really hope they spend a lot of time on that.
Lol, that's probably actually Cavill on a green screen. Guys, you guys can't even tell anymore and believe everything is CG
remember the terrible CG False God Statue?
Wrong. most of the Statue is Practical
unholyrevenger72
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Na'vi aren't people....
There's nothing wrong with impact waves, or would you have prefered the time honored Martial Arts movie tradition of coating everything dust to create the illusion of power
SCULLIBUNDO
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Cavill looks like a 4 year old who's just been told they're not going to the zoo like originally planned.
Gambit 1138
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Why is Kal El smiling while getting punched like that? Shouldn't he show some sign of pain or something?
I'm pretty sure the actual movie is not cut like that.
And how exactly does it look "fake"? Because it has people flying?
Why is Kal El smiling while getting punched like that? Shouldn't he show some sign of pain or something?
As someone mentioned, a lot of the fighting in the 3rd act was CG. I wouldn't be surprised if that was an entirely CG model of Cavill. Also, GIF loops are a movie's worst nightmare.
Nobody would notice that in the split second that it takes place in the actual scene.
CyberPunked
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Guys the films not finished. Remember this:
or this:
or this:
Sibersk Esto
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Weirdest shot for me was this:
The Silver
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Why is Kal El smiling while getting punched like that? Shouldn't he show some sign of pain or something?
people trying to analyze shit frame by frame of course you're gonna see some weird faces, you don't notice that shit when you're in the middle of watching it the 1st time.
and those punches probably don't hurt him that much, their durability outstrips their strength.
Yup. MoS took Kryptonian invulnerability to its logical conclusion.
Kal got a hit by a goddamn train and didn't have a fucking scratch on them.
Maninthemirror
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That's how it's supposed to be, they are supposed to bleed by krypton not by earthly elements
Stevetopsy
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Wait a second.... Nam? That big guy had a name? How did you find this out because they sure as hell couldn't be bothered to give it to us in the movie as far as I know. He was just "big kryptonian guy."
Also, the Smallville fight was my favorite too even over the Zod fight. Even if Supes was destroying half of the town he grew up in. "Sorry about the gas station! I'm sure your family will survive somehow even with all that lost income."
Anton Sugar
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Weirdest shot for me was this:
Yeah, there are parts of the aerial fight that are Burly Brawl 2.0 in quality.
remember the terrible CG False God Statue?
Wrong. most of the Statue is Practical
Having a practical doesn't mean it wasn't digitally painted or replaced, FWIW.
Still trying to see it a fifth time.
Furiosa in the third act, from the moment
she is stabbed
Bobby Roberts
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Absolutely, 100% agree. It's why I'm so amped to see what Lord & Miller do with Spidey. That is, if they even get to do it now that Lucasfilm's snatched 'em up for that fuckin Han Solo movie.
His name is "Nam-Ek".
His name is given in the official Novel and promotional material
Weirdest shot for me was this:
I loved this shot!
For sure it is still too early to say anything concrete. I just think that this trailer hits all the right notes to drum up interest in the film. If the rest of the ad campaign is as strong as what we have seen so far (and if reviews aren't outright horrible), this film is going to make boatloads.
Maninthemirror
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We don't know which metal it is
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