SPOILER: Spoiler Metal Gear Solid V (TPS) Spoiler Thread (Contains Spoilers, Thanos).

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Apparently during the hospital scene you can see that Ishamel/Big Boss has flowers from the field where he fought The Boss (or at least those type of flowers) in a vase....

MEGA SPOILER

Edit: From the sounds of it BIGMGSFAN was only partially right, and considering he said his plot was a shot i the dark (IE beyond the hospital it was guesswork) itlines up a bit.

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This would explain why the French felt the story didn't live up to the expectable.

They missed the real fucking ending. The ending that reveals who Ishmael is, BIG BOSS.

THEY LITERALLY BEAT PSYCHO MANTIS/METAL GEAR AS VENOM SNAKE AND THOUGHT THAT WAS THE ENDING

Jesus Christ.
 
So Pyscho Mantis piloting a Metal Gear is the last boss? I...really didn't expect that. Does the guide have anything about other bosses?
 
1980s Metal Gear is now as advanced as something from Revengeance? :/

shocky2002 said:
This would explain why the French felt the story didn't live up to the expectable.

They missed the real fucking ending. The ending that reveals who Ishmael is, BIG BOSS.

THEY LITERALLY BEAT PSYCHO MANTIS/METAL GEAR AS VENOM SNAKE AND THOUGHT THAT WAS THE ENDING

Jesus Christ.
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Yeah, but how many people saw the real PW ending? Hiding the climax of the plot behind side missions is stupid.
 
Shauni said:
So where is this Ishamel is Big Boss coming from if the guide doesn't specify who he is? Or was that wrong earlier?
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Doesn't seem to explicitly say that, (yet?) but it says the protagonist is referred to as Ahab and that Ishmael and the Medic are the same person.
 
Jackpot said:
1980s Metal Gear is now as advanced as something from Revengeance? :/



Yeah, but how many people saw the real PW ending? Hiding the climax of the plot behind side missions is stupid.
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No no no don't say that or people are going to jump down your throat and call you stupid and hypocritical :)
 
To be honest, I think not playing as Big Boss is extremely disappointing. Like... what's the point? This was supposed to be Boss's descent into becoming the shithead in MG. Unless Ishmael is incredibly prominent in the story (which doesn't seem to be the case), I don't see how that Big Boss aspect of the story can be sold well. Of course, we don't have close to enough information yet, so I could be completely wrong.
 
The guy we are playing as can't be Solidus though... he would be way too old for MGS 2

NeoGiff said:
To be honest, I think not playing as Big Boss is extremely disappointing. Like... what's the point? This was supposed to be Boss's descent into becoming the shithead in MG. Unless Ishmael is incredibly prominent in the story (which doesn't seem to be the case), I don't see how that Big Boss aspect of the story can be sold well. Of course, we don't have close to enough information yet, so I could be completely wrong.
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Good point. We could have used one last HURRAH! as Big Boss
But why does Venom pretend to be Big Boss? Does he even know who that is?
Does he even understand his relationships with Boss' old crew like Kaz and Huey?

It's one think to play as Raiden in MGS 2 but kind of a deflating balloon to play as BIG BOSS with the serial numbers filed off
So say Solidus goes all evil and says, "I'M A DEMON KAZ!" Why would Ishmael/Big Boss follow the same path?

I like the twist itself though. Arguably better than Ish being a hallucination induced by Kid Mantis
Why does Ishmael help Venom then? Does Boss want clones running around?

ELI = Liquid I saw from a mile away. Look at him!
 
Cob32 said:
If big boss is Ishmael do we know who the player snake is or is that not confirmed yet?
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Not confirmed but people seem to think it's either;

1) Solidus with scars as a result of accelerated aging and that post-TPP he'd go on to meet Raiden in the Liberian War

2) The Medic, with the scars being from shielding Big Boss from the helicopter crash and undergoing psycotherapy etc to convinced himself that he is Big Boss, in a semi-parallel to Liquid Ocelot's final revelation that he'd done it to fool the Patriot AIs.

Edit: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A SECOND. I'm not saying this isn't convoluted (obligatory lolmgs) but what if...the big twist...is that Big Boss never descended into villainy and he did something comparable to the Boss in terms of willingly let his reputation be destroyed (by the actions of Venom Snake) in order to serve a greater purpose (in MGS3 it was her patriotism and in this it's his wanting to avenge her/take down Zero) so it's not as "noble" as her sacrifice but it's part of him "losing it". I am thinking this through super quickily thugh....

I mean "Let the world fear us all, it's just means to an end" etc...

Second edit: That wouldn't actually mean BB wasn't a villain...i mean...for very personal reasons he's willing to let everyone else fight a war by proxy, for people loyal to him to get killed etc...
 
These have been confirmed as tapes according to the map:

Laid Back - White Horse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwATF5dnfq4

Thomas Dolby - She Blinded Me With Science

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMWGXt979yg

Ultravox - Dancing With Tears in My Eyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWvPMxsDb_s

Kajagoogoo - Too Shy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nozewQJ4hyw

Japan - Quiet Life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrW3SLcC3OM

Gloria - Laura Branigan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KnJCEuyUac

Dead or Alive - You Spin Me Right Round (Like a Record)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNiXGX2nLU

Patti LaBelle - I'm In Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1rKd_ZJ7TU

Cynhtia Harrell - Snake Eater

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPNtpsaZD1o
 
I don't think it's legit, but I like BigMGSfan's post about the playable character being a kind of rushed and defective clone of Big Boss. The horn is just a protruding bone and he's missing an arm because of shoddy...clone work. And the "coma for 9 years" is symbolic of 9 months to birth a child. Rapidly aged shitty clone or something.


NeoGiff said:
To be honest, I think not playing as Big Boss is extremely disappointing. Like... what's the point? This was supposed to be Boss's descent into becoming the shithead in MG. Unless Ishmael is incredibly prominent in the story (which doesn't seem to be the case), I don't see how that Big Boss aspect of the story can be sold well. Of course, we don't have close to enough information yet, so I could be completely wrong.
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Maybe we might at some point ~
 
BossDarkseid said:
Edit: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A SECOND. I'm not saying this isn't convoluted (obligatory lolmgs) but what if...the big twist...is that Big Boss never descended into villainy and he did something comparable to the Boss in terms of willingly let his reputation be destroyed (by the actions of Venom Snake) in order to serve a greater purpose (in MGS3 it was her patriotism and in this it's his wanting to avenge her/take down Zero) so it's not as "noble" as her sacrifice but it's part of him "losing it". I am thinking this through super quickily thugh....

I mean "Let the world fear us all, it's just means to an end" etc...
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That would be such a goddamn cop out and wouldn't make sense
Why was he in hiding for so long then only to be captured and put under ice by the Patriots
Let us have a Villain Protagonist, nothing wrong with that.
 
The one thing I want from this game is to see it take a massive character dump on Para-Medic.
She needs to be referenced(preferably shown) doing some evil scientific shit
 
Boss fights from Reddit thread, credit to PumaWarrior

The bosses are Skulls (Fog version mission 1 and 6, Armored version mission 16, 29 and extreme 37, 42), Camo version mission 28, 46), Quiet (mission 11 and 40 extreme), Man on fire (prologe and mission 20), Eli (mission 23 and optional 113), Sahelanthropous (mission 12, 31, 50 extreme)
 
BossDarkseid said:
Edit: From the sounds of it BIGMGSFAN was only partially right, and considering he said his plot was a shot i the dark (IE beyond the hospital it was guesswork) itlines up a bit.
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People seem to forget that BigMGSFan was not only completely bullshitting (saying things like "you'll be able to encounter Grey Fox and adult Sniper Wolf in Africa"), but he was also found to be using bot accounts to agree with himself so it would be credible at face value. He even apologized for it on GameFAQS. Anyone throwing a dart would probably hit on a point that will likely happen in this game.

As far as the spoilers so far are concerned, has there been any evidence of locations other than the hospital/Afghanistan/Africa/Camp Omega?
 
ponpo said:
I don't think it's legit, but I like BigMGSfan's post about the playable character being a kind of rushed and defective clone of Big Boss. The horn is just a protruding bone and he's missing an arm because of shoddy...clone work. And the "coma for 9 years" is symbolic of 9 months to birth a child. Rapidly aged shitty clone or something.




Maybe we might at some point ~
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Doesn't the strategy guide go in line with stuff he said about Quiet? Except for Ishmael/BB since it's omitted from the guide.
 
MrS said:
Boss fights from Reddit thread

The bosses are Skulls (Fog version mission 1 and 6, Armored version mission 16, 29 and extreme 37, 42), Camo version mission 28, 46), Quiet (mission 11 and 40 extreme), Man on fire (prologe and mission 20), Eli (mission 23 and optional 113), Sahelanthropous (mission 12, 31, 50 extreme)
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Hmm not a lot then ...
 
MrS said:
Boss fights from Reddit thread

The bosses are Skulls (Fog version mission 1 and 6, Armored version mission 16, 29 and extreme 37, 42), Camo version mission 28, 46), Quiet (mission 11 and 40 extreme), Man on fire (prologe and mission 20), Eli (mission 23 and optional 113), Sahelanthropous (mission 12, 31, 50 extreme)
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that's.....really disappointing. No
Skull Face
fight?
 
MrS said:
Boss fights from Reddit thread

The bosses are Skulls (Fog version mission 1 and 6, Armored version mission 16, 29 and extreme 37, 42), Camo version mission 28, 46), Quiet (mission 11 and 40 extreme), Man on fire (prologe and mission 20), Eli (mission 23 and optional 113), Sahelanthropous (mission 12, 31, 50 extreme)
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No Skullface boss?

So he survives the game? Or is killed off screen?
 
MrS said:
Boss fights from Reddit thread

The bosses are Skulls (Fog version mission 1 and 6, Armored version mission 16, 29 and extreme 37, 42), Camo version mission 28, 46), Quiet (mission 11 and 40 extreme), Man on fire (prologe and mission 20), Eli (mission 23 and optional 113), Sahelanthropous (mission 12, 31, 50 extreme)
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Eh. Boss count could be higher but I suppose with the expanded toolset unless you crazily limited us (which would be against the grain if it was done all the time it'd be pointless.

Plus if a few of them are really good then I probably won't care :P
 
crazyrabbits said:
People seem to forget that BigMGSFan was not only completely bullshitting (saying things like "you'll be able to encounter Grey Fox and adult Sniper Wolf in Africa"), but he was also found to be using bot accounts to agree with himself so it would be credible at face value. He even apologized for it on GameFAQS. Anyone throwing a dart would probably hit on a point that will likely happen in this game.

As far as the spoilers so far are concerned, has there been any evidence of locations other than the hospital/Afghanistan/Africa/Camp Omega?
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Adult Sniper Wolf would make no sense, she wouldn't be any older than Eli or David.

However, Naomi told Snake in MGS1 that she was found in Rhodesia in the 80s by Frank, and then Big Boss rescued them both and eventually took them to America before he and Frank left again to continue fighting a war.

So we should be encountering a young Frank Jaeger and Naomi at some point, or a reference to them at least.
 
Xiraiya said:
Adult Sniper Wolf would make no sense, she wouldn't be any older than Eli or David.

However, Naomi told Snake in MGS1 that she was found in Rhodesia in the 80s by Frank, and then Big Boss rescued them both and eventually took them to America before he and Frank left again to continue fighting a war.

So we should be encountering a young Frank Jaeger and Naomi at some point, or a reference to them at least.
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Somebody mentioned that Frank Jaeger is mentioned in a tape, so he might have been sent to America with Naomi already but he could easily have been bullshitting.
 
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