SPOILER: Spoiler Metal Gear Solid V (TPS) Spoiler Thread (Contains Spoilers, Thanos).
- Thread starter Love Deterrence
- Start date
- Status
StarlordDial
Member
So much mindfuckery up in here ;_;
Am I The Big Boss ?
Are You?
Is he?
Are They?
Arghhhhhhhh
Am I The Big Boss ?
Are You?
Is he?
Are They?
Arghhhhhhhh
KOMANI
KOMANI
YouTube Pythonsalkin HD. I think my spelling is wrong, but close enough.
Good catch, it is debatable but it's too specifically similar to how MGS3 handled first person with the eyepatch.No, I see what he's getting at:
It looks just like in MGS3, if you go into first-person-view after Snake lost his eye.
SkylineRKR
Member
MAX PAYMENT
Member
SkylineRKR
Member
So Venom Snake is looking like 'another me?'. He's certainly surprised.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
I don't think that the PAZ explosion causes the shrapnel horn. I think the helicopter crash does.
I don't see how else he could get something stuck in his face.
I just watched the trailer again and that's the only moment you see that black spot. If it was vignette, I would imagine the trailer would include more of it and not just on one corner.
This is coming from a non MGS conspiracist, btw.
SkylineRKR
Member
It would be ridiculous either way. I always thought the shrapnel was a piece of the womb bomb.
But then again, the loss of an arm was likely caused by the Heli.
Caffeine
Gold Member
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Is it ever mentioned how long it takes Big Boss to recover and go save Kaz?
He looks emaciated as fuck in the hospital, then pretty jacked when Ocelot says that the legend needs to come back to life.
He looks emaciated as fuck in the hospital, then pretty jacked when Ocelot says that the legend needs to come back to life.
Ground Zeroes?
MAX PAYMENT
Member
So what do you think a camera zoom means that, for a moment, has the MGS3 1 eye effect?
The way the camera moves makes me think this means nothing.
Go to the 1:15 minute mark in this trailer. We literally NEVER see this scene in GZ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03nUMw7japI
Charlouie Jonesman
Banned
This was never in the game:
Now whether this is just unused footage, or part of the big "This is how it really happened!" reveal, I do not know.
This was never in the game:
Now whether this is just unused footage, or part of the big "This is how it really happened!" reveal, I do not know.
Definitely could be unused footage but for the sake of the theory this could be a flashback to how GZ really happened.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
What if big boss straight up died in the helicopter crash and both ishmael and ahab are botched clones. Lol
MGS has never really been into the unused footage thing unless it's done to hide something, so either that is actually in the game as part of the "real" story thing, or that exact scene plays out with another in Big Boss's place.This was never in the game:
Now whether this is just unused footage, or part of the big "This is how it really happened!" reveal, I do not know.
Charlouie Jonesman
Banned
KOMANI
KOMANI
1. Snake's shadow in ground zeroes in undefined from the neck up. He's the only character in te game with an undefined shadow.
2. The one-eyed thing we just discussed from the trailer.
3. Kiefer's voicing Ishmael, Snake, and the Medic.
4. In the chopper, where there are photos; one photo deliberately hides a man snake is embracing along with the helicopter pilot and Kaz.
5. A lot of stuff are Gray Fox theories.
6. There's one whole video that concentrated on the head surgeon doctor,
7. There are interesting videos between yongyea on Python, disproving each other.
That just looks like whoever you are, you're standing behind Kaz.The effect is there throughout the entire scene.
This also makes me wonder if that's why Ocelot and Kaz do everything for you in TPP, they almost sound like your babysitters and they're just "humoring" your leadership.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Maybe it's the flashback scene that supposedly shows two different snakes.
SyberWolf
Member
This was never in the game:
Now whether this is just unused footage, or part of the big "This is how it really happened!" reveal, I do not know.
i have a theory, what if the helicopter missed the other one, and this is BB flying past motherbase (with paz/medic blood on his face) one last time before heading to the hospital with the medic who got blown up.
KOMANI
KOMANI
I think it's the REAL ground zeroes mission we play in TPP. Possibly, the one mission not detailed in the guide.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
NegroNinja
Member
Has everyone noticed that in ground zeroes there is a masked soldier that also makes his way onto the chopper who is interacting with Chico while Kaz has a meltdown. So that makes 6 people on the chopper. Big Boss, Medic, Chico, Paz, Kaz, and unknown soldier.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Then why is snake dying in the hospital if he's chill right after the explosion?
KOMANI
KOMANI
Judging from the trailers, there's footage of camp omega during the day time.
You know how in MGS2 Raiden was supposed to represent the player?
Well if these theories hold true then I think WE the player represent "Venom Snake" We've been loyal to Big Boss since MGS 3. We even sympathize with his character.
So we the player think we are playing as Big Boss only to have those thoughts betrayed only to be used by the very "hero" we've built up in our heads.
Well if these theories hold true then I think WE the player represent "Venom Snake" We've been loyal to Big Boss since MGS 3. We even sympathize with his character.
So we the player think we are playing as Big Boss only to have those thoughts betrayed only to be used by the very "hero" we've built up in our heads.
SkylineRKR
Member
We didn't play the raid of Mother Base.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
The effect is there throughout the entire scene.
Yes, the effect is weird. But that's either a dramatic camera zoom, or a one eyed person is going in for a kiss on snake.
KOMANI
KOMANI
i like this. I like it a lot.
SyberWolf
Member
no idea, maybe hes fine for a bit and then collapses in the chopper
That definitely feels like the direction this might be going in.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Make the player the protagonist. I like it.
I just have no idea how it could be pulled off.
Possibly. There's a scene just after in which a nuke? is being moved towards BB and it appears to be from the same scene, so that must be what BB is looking at and why the camera zoomed in on him.
That black spot though... It's weird that it's there and just on that moment during the whole trailer. A trailer that was directed by Kojima so it must be there for a reason.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
Its definitely weird.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
I'm almost 100% positive when we play the game and we see the scenes from the trailers, they're going to be slightly different.
Whether big boss has a horn or not. Place holder characters, etc.
Whether big boss has a horn or not. Place holder characters, etc.
I say that because if I'm playing the game as Big Boss. It's easy for me to sympathize with the character. Kojima wants us to HATE Big Boss after this game. It's hard to hate a man if you're in direct control of everything especially when they give you reasons to be sympathetic towards his character.
Now imagine Big Boss using his most trust man. Whether that's The Player, The Medic or whoever. Implants false memories. (Kojima sold us GZ giving us what we believe to be accurate events.), and uses this person to build a military base and army to lure his two enemies out. Cipher and Skullface.
Only for it to be revealed that we aren't Big Boss and he in turn kills us and uses what we did to establish Outer Heaven.
We would view him as nothing more than a monster. Just like Kaz did in MG2
Now imagine Big Boss using his most trust man. Whether that's The Player, The Medic or whoever. Implants false memories. (Kojima sold us GZ giving us what we believe to be accurate events.), and uses this person to build a military base and army to lure his two enemies out. Cipher and Skullface.
Only for it to be revealed that we aren't Big Boss and he in turn kills us and uses what we did to establish Outer Heaven.
We would view him as nothing more than a monster. Just like Kaz did in MG2
MAX PAYMENT
Member
That's a good point and it's exactly why I believe we don't play as the real big boss.
I feel like the only way they could make you hate the character your playing as is if he does evil shit that is out of your control.
And with the apparently seldom amount of cutscenes, it won't really mesh with you doing missions as a good guy saving people and whatnot.
All Prisoners
All Unique "named" guards (The Finger, The Eye etc. anyone that isn't a default guard)
Kojima (probably)
FOX Sneaking suit
All collected Casettes (No reason to assume otherwise)
An extra mission in TPP where you visit camp Omega
Something else that is apparently a big deal and not been done before in games according to Kojima.
That's what's been confirmed or implied so far, but nothing has been said if things like regular guards you extract carry over, but yeah.
Well, Big Boss being in a homosexual relationship with his own underage clone or someone who took his face would be... something.
I think there's a lot of weight in this theory.
If you examine the shot closely, Ocelot has a very serious, almost apologetic expression on his face. Kaz is turning away from the camera back towards Venom - he has just looked at whoever is approaching. Finally, Venom turns around with this expression of innocence and utter confusion (watch it in motion to see what I mean).
Goddammit, this is heartbreaking. Big Boss, you absolute monster.
Edit: I see you've already discussed this a bit. Sorry, I jumped the gun and posted without reading the rest of the thread first.
- Status
Similar threads
- Poll