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I think Trump can, and perhaps should win. He is the president we deserve.
CNN poll : Donald Trump now competitive in general election
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MrCunningham
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The rest of the post you quoted addressed this. And I still consider post-1960 to be "new." When you said "this is nothing new," I thought you were going to have something to say about American politics 1788 - 1960
Whoops, so you did
. I just jumped to the quote button before reaching that part of your post.FantasticMrFoxdie
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Lulz. Just lulz.
You mean his first bankruptcy. And his supernatural ability to massively underperform the general New York real estate market. And his highly suspicious and creative regulatory filing to run for president,. Again, this is how you get him. Prove he's worth a fifth of what he says he is. The only presidential candidate in history to exaggerate his wealth. All of his ego is tied up in that.
Operations
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Robocop was way ahead of its time.
Firestone77
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Think he would laugh at the tactic and ridicule the petty accuser to a 5pt bump in the polls. Beautiful.
Do we really want Hilary though? Though I'm a Democrat, she has been caught up in a lot of shady stuff, I'm no longer going to vote for someone just to have a 'first' in the white house (ie what I did with obama) I would love a woman president, it would be great but hillary? Idk.
As far as Trump, what did he say the other day? , he wants to build up our military to the point where it won't be used because no one will want to fuck with us? I'm OK with that too
GoldenEye 007
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If I'm not mistaken, it's not that uncommon that judges are not required to have gone to law school or pass the bar.
Edit: Just checked. On the federal level, there is no law school requirement.
We're already at that point. We have way more nukes than anybody and anybody seriously considering a land invasion of the United States is going to get their shit pushed in. We could actually decrease the size of our military and STILL nobody would want to fuck with us.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Yeah, about that. It's kind of crazy how almost every "populist" fantasy policy he puts out, there's a clear and easy answer that shows just how detached from reality it is.
TrojanBlade
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The guys is a jackass but he is saying the right things that riles up the right. Not sure how he will get any independant votes which decide the winner.
I listened to his speech at the stadium and it was just 'me me me me'. No insight or depth at all to as to how he will achieve all the things he says he will do. But the crowd loved the buzz words like 'We will take care of our vets', 'I love Israel', 'Iran bad', 'I will obama care repeal', 'America will be great again', 'Border control' ...and the crowd was going nuts. Morons.
I listened to his speech at the stadium and it was just 'me me me me'. No insight or depth at all to as to how he will achieve all the things he says he will do. But the crowd loved the buzz words like 'We will take care of our vets', 'I love Israel', 'Iran bad', 'I will obama care repeal', 'America will be great again', 'Border control' ...and the crowd was going nuts. Morons.
Elfforkusu
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Right, what he's saying is what already exists.Yeah, about that. It's kind of crazy how almost every "populist" fantasy policy he puts out, there's a clear and easy answer that shows just how detached from reality it is.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Don't forget when asked how he would repeal something used by at least 10 million Americans right now he just says he will replace it with "something terrific."
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Obamacare's personally screwed me over several times in several ways, so I'm fine with that. His vague "something terrific" will have a proper policy behind it before election time. Or at least I'm assuming that will be the case, as he said he's rolling out the policies one by one starting with the Immigration one.
Which is less than 50% of what US spends.
you can't be serious.
It already once cost me full-time status (which has since been regained). The literal explanation is my position had to be removed because of Obamacare's rules regarding full time employees. It's also forced me to pay a large amount for coverage I can't actually use or afford, or be fined (by the time I hit a $5000 deductible, I'd be flirting with bankruptcy anyway). What's so great about it again?
Frozenprince
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If we elect Trump president I am leaving this country.
No way I'm staying here while that madman kills the country.
No way I'm staying here while that madman kills the country.
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Bam Bam Baklava
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I look at it in terms of the macro picture rather than micro. Just recently, the CBO did an analysis that actually shows the impact on the deficit would slowly rise if ACA is repealed.
speculawyer
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It is hilarious watching some right wing media outlets being forced to defend some of the insanity that Trump is spewing since he now has so much backing from the base. Trump has apparently pulled off a hostile take-over of the GOP.
Bam Bam Baklava
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16 other candidates and not one of them can do anything to stop him. Ironically, what they really need is a guy like George W Bush or Reagan to take him down but all they have is a bunch of automatons.
How would he be any worse than say Scott Walker? The GOP field is littered with incompetents. I don't how Trump would be worse.
And this takeover can be largely attributed to him going directly against the advice of the 2012 post-mortem; it's fantastic for appealing to primary voters, but deadly for a general electorate. It's almost as though he read the autopsy and said, "I'm doing the exact opposite!"
I'd love to know what Reince Priebus is thinking right about now.
Yeah, about that. It's kind of crazy how almost every "populist" fantasy policy he puts out, there's a clear and easy answer that shows just how detached from reality it is.
To be fair, how much of that figure on the right is taken up by billion dollar planes that can't fly and $5,000 pencils?
Alcibiades
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I look at it in terms of the macro picture rather than micro. Just recently, the CBO did an analysis that actually shows the impact on the deficit would slowly rise if ACA is repealed.
I wonder what the effect would be of a repeal combined with some sort of universal medicare for Americans that can't afford insurance.
I think most Americans at this point support universal health care of some sort. I'd prefer to see basic care for all Americans including undocumented since in the end it is cheaper than emergency room visits.
But the actual effect of Obamacare has mostly been much more expensive health insurance with worse coverage. I understand some of that is due to pre-existing conditions issue, but it also feels like they could have included that while raising premiums minimally:
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2015...ofits-soar-they-dump-small-business-customers
Basically, record profits for insurance executives and shareholders seems to be the goal, not actually helping Americans get coverage. I wonder if it is too late for a single-payer Medicare plan at least for those below the poverty line. My guess is the insurance companies are too invested in the political process to ever be given the boot.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Probably not anywhere near enough to say our military isn't the strongest by far compared to anything the world has to offer. Then you consider that the biggest threat people see these days is ISIS and the stance makes even less sense.
ISIS is an ideological extremist group that would engage in unconventional warfare so they probably don't care if the US spent trillions a year on the military.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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We can almost certainly ask about that regarding the left figure also. I highly doubt Russia's military is as efficient as ours (or France or plenty of the others).
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Dr. Frankenstein = GOP
Monster = Trump
They allowed this to happen. Crating the monster we know as trump.
It's so fascinating how differently Trump is perceived being extremely rich than Mitt Romney was. Trump just oddly connects because he lives large in the crass way that your average rural American redneck would if they won $500 million in the lottery.
Romney lived rich in the old New England style; staid and old fashioned with fancy mansions off the coast, car elevators, "retreats" with the grandkids. Trump has casinos, tacky cologne brands called 'success', a jumbo jet, and a gimmicky cable show that features a megalomaniac putting people out of work.
Romney lived rich in the old New England style; staid and old fashioned with fancy mansions off the coast, car elevators, "retreats" with the grandkids. Trump has casinos, tacky cologne brands called 'success', a jumbo jet, and a gimmicky cable show that features a megalomaniac putting people out of work.
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But I think it makes perfect sense; he feels like someone who is a regular person with a lot of money, not some sort of elitist. The idea that he's so rich he has no reason to run but because he feels he can do a better job than the others, it makes sense. To me it's a bit like if Buffett ran for president. For Trump, it seems being rich is just a game, not something important, and I think that comes through. For Romney, being rich seemed to put him above the people. And I think the other candidates are just untrustworthy in the eyes of most because they're not super rich, so they are probably in this to get rich.
speculawyer
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Thread needs the uncropped photo with the full sign.
speculawyer
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This is a fantastic observation. The one suggestion from that post mortem was "don't alienate minorities with harsh anti-immigrant policies" . . . And Trump has made immigration his centerpiece policy.
And he is dragging the rest of field to follow him into unelectable in the general election territory.
ArkhamFantasy
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Well, cant argue with that. Tell those whiny scientists to shut it.
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speculawyer
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Especially all those scientists in China who have been getting China to install solar, wind, and nuclear reactors at furious pace in recent years.
Grandpa I didn't know you had a gaf account!
When George Will is making sense, it stands-out in my mind.
He's seeing the same thing we're seeing. I kinda like it when this comes from unexpected sources; it reassures me that I'm not stuck in my bubble of liberal perspectives.
And WOW at that Holocaust reference.
Meanwhile, the reactions over at FreeRepublic are very predictable..
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