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Bloomberg Poll: Hillary Clinton more unpopular than Donald Trump

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Dead Man

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...so you agree but are just being pedantic

I'm not going to pretend not to understand subtext
No, I'm saying it's better to take posts at face value. So many arguments online seem to come from people interpreting posts in ways they MAY be meant but weren't. If you want someone to give your posts due time and consideration it's fair to do the same for others. But hey, I can't force anyone to do anything, so have fun going in circles and accomplising nothing.

Except, you know, they're literal Nazis. But at least they're so polite.

False equivalencies whee.

Yeah, facetious humorous comment = supporting nazis. Fucking pathetic mate.
 

jtb

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No, I'm saying it's better to take posts at face value. So many arguments online seem to come from people interpreting posts in ways they MAY be meant but weren't. If you want someone to give your posts due time and consideration it's fair to do the same for others. But hey, I can't force anyone to do anything, so have fun going in circles and accomplising nothing.



Yeah, facetious humorous comment = supporting nazis. Fucking pathetic mate.

You clearly haven't read the fawning Richard Spencer profiles about how well-dressed he is for a Nazi. ~both sideszzs-ers~ eat that shit up.
 
No, I'm saying it's better to take posts at face value. So many arguments online seem to come from people interpreting posts in ways they MAY be meant but weren't. If you want someone to give your posts due time and consideration it's fair to do the same for others. But hey, I can't force anyone to do anything, so have fun going in circles and accomplising nothing.

I'm not a big fan of being lied to and being expected to take it, nor am I trying to "accomplish" anything with people here.
 

Draper

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No, I'm saying it's better to take posts at face value. So many arguments online seem to come from people interpreting posts in ways they MAY be meant but weren't. If you want someone to give your posts due time and consideration it's fair to do the same for others. But hey, I can't force anyone to do anything, so have fun going in circles and accomplising nothing.



Yeah, facetious humorous comment = supporting nazis. Fucking pathetic mate.


The subtext I take away from this is that you're a Bernie-loving Nazi! Get out of my face!

I'm not a big fan of being lied to and being expected to take it, nor am I trying to "accomplish" anything with people here.

Unfortunately you're behaving like a overtly sensitive, stubborn child. Maybe take a seat?
 

Elandyll

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It makes sense, Hillary clinton is just a stand in face for the democratic party itself and all of their problems.

People expect the GOP to be bad, but if the Dems don't bother to be a legitimate oposition political party with their own message, they are viewed even worse than that because then there are no real options.

For a majority of people there, is no such thing as accepting mediocrity to stave off absolute disaster. Some would say that's a good attitude to have.

It's more about how progressives in the US are so quick to be at each other's throats when they don't have a near perfect candidate with a wide appeal (like Obama).

The various sides that make the progressive movement in the US, of which the Dems are the widest and most mainstream part, are just pushing in all kinds of directions and applying purity tests all around.

I mean, we even had the leader of the Green party pushing for Donald Trump because apparently he was, somehow, better for the environment than Clinton, when Trump had sworn to gut the EPA, roll back environment protections and take down the Clean energy actions of Obama.

Bernie Sanders, the unofficial figurehead of socialists in the US, refuses to be a part of the Democrat party, a party which he seeked the support of and to become its de facto leader without being a part of it.

When said Democrat party was "exposed" as preferring its own candidate (while the process itself was unhindered and remained democratic), a whole swath of progressives turned against it.

When it is revealed day in and day out how much Clinton was F* over by Conservatives (most of her life), Comey, and the Trump campaign likely colluding with Russia to help trolls surgically target fake news in her most vulnerable areas (and of course the Kremlin organized the attack on the DNC emails), it looks like many progressives still say the loss was mostly (if not entirely) her fault.

I mean, in spite of demographics and being on the right side of history on most (if not all) issues, I am amazed that progressives could potentially win -anything- with this constant self hatred.

Quite frankly, every day when I hear Democrat politicians talk in interviews and fight in Congress or Senate or locally, I am reminded of how different they are from GOP motherf*ers.

Fuck the "both sides" talk between Clinton/ Democrats and Trump.

And Fuck all the special progressive snowflakes who prefer to blame the Democrats and Clinton and everybody else rather than look themselves in the mirror. Yes, particularly You the special progressive snowflakes who didn't vote for Clinton in the Midwest.
 

royalan

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Mostly because he made a completely unnecessary 2nd half heel turn and decided that even though he was statistically out of it, he wanted to put his targets on Clinton and the DNC and double down on "THE ESTABLISHMENT". It created totally unneeded drama and poisoned the well for no reason other than to massage his ego.

I don't even hate Bernie for all the bullshit he pulled during his campaign. Frankly, I'm done with the primaries.

I hate Bernie Sanders because even today, with every olive branch extended to him, he can't stop attacking Democrats who don't meet his "progressive" litmus test. Including necessary moderate democrats running for contested red seats.

He will never get along with the party. He's an independent through and through. Which is FINE. He can be an agitator all he wants. I just wish he'd stop putting on an act about it.

It's more about how progressives in the US are so quick to be at each other's throats when they don't have a near perfect candidate with a wide appeal (like Obama).

The various sides that make the progressive movement in the US, of which the Dems are the widest and most mainstream part, are just pushing in all kinds of directions and applying purity tests all around.

I mean, we even had the leader of the Green party pushing for Donald Trump because apparently he was, somehow, better for the environment than Clinton, when Trump had sworn to gut the EPA, roll back environment protections and take down the Clean energy actions of Obama.

Bernie Sanders, the unofficial figurehead of socialists in the US, refuses to be a part of the Democrat party, a party which he seeked the support of and to become its de facto leader without being a part of it.

When said Democrat party was "exposed" as preferring its own candidate (while the process itself was unhindered and remained democratic), a whole swath of progressives turned against it.

When it is revealed day in and day out how much Clinton was F* over by Conservatives (most of her life), Comey, and the Trump campaign likely colluding with Russia to help trolls surgically target fake news in her most vulnerable areas (and of course the Kremlin organized the attack on the DNC emails), it looks like many progressives still say the loss was mostly (if not entirely) her fault.

I mean, in spite of demographics and being on the right side of history on most (if not all) issues, I am amazed that progressives could potentially win -anything- with this constant self hatred.

Quite frankly, every day when I hear Democrat politicians talk in interviews and fight in Congress or Senate or locally, I am reminded of how different they are from GOP motherf*ers.

Fuck the "both sides" talk between Clinton/ Democrats and Trump.

And Fuck all the special progressive snowflakes who prefer to blame the Democrats and Clinton and everybody else rather than look themselves in the mirror. Yes, particularly You the special progressive snowflakes who didn't vote for Clinton in the Midwest.


THIS.

Every word of this.
 

Dead Man

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The subtext I take away from this is that you're a Bernie-loving Nazi! Get out of my face!
Shit. Busted. :)

I'm not a big fan of being lied to and being expected to take it, nor am I trying to "accomplish" anything with people here.
You're not trying to accomplish anything with people here? So why bother typing anything and posting anything? You're not trying to communicate?

You clearly haven't read the fawning Richard Spencer profiles about how well-dressed he is for a Nazi. ~both sideszzs-ers~ eat that shit up.
And what the fuck does that have to do with my post?

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Yeah, obviously not meant to be taken seriously. I thought.
 
Shit. Busted. :)


You're not trying to accomplish anything with people here? So why bother typing anything and posting anything? You're not trying to communicate?


And what the fuck does that have to do with my post?

Edit:

Yeah, obviously not meant to be taken seriously. I thought.

Ok to clarify, I'm not trying to convince random people of anything. I do enjoy conversing with level headed, non-condescending people.

Not going to humor the "Clinton supporters are all terrible" crowd and definitely not the both/all sides are the same crowd.
 
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