Johan Liebert
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Side Ops mission 112. Seriously amazing lmao. Did not see the coming.
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Too bad you can't play as him. First thing I tried was putting him in the combat unit, but alas
Possibly the angle that even though the ruse was sorta cheap, it did mean that the player themselves became Snake. They weren't playing a character, they were a clean slate.
It's a stretch but it adds weight to tge idea that the final mirror acene is Kojima talking to the fans.
"You and me are both the boss... Thank you, friend" etc.
damien1928
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how do you Play an "Infiltration" FOB mission.???
Oh man, I totally fucked up the Eli boss fight.
Look how cool it is. It even has the stab scene if you do it right.
I must have asked Quiet to shoot him. Shieeeeeeet. At least the rematch went well.
Look how cool it is. It even has the stab scene if you do it right.
I must have asked Quiet to shoot him. Shieeeeeeet. At least the rematch went well.
Ether_Snake
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Hmm right, maybe that's what it was.
I think the chapter being titled Race would make sense if it was supposed to spawn more wars in Africa. Eli, Solids, Big Boss, Gray Fox, Jack, they're all white people involved in wars in Africa, some as child soldiers. If Eli makes a "Kingdom" in Africa, the whole race thing could probably become a big deal in this part of the story.
edit: Why did Huey say that Salenthropolous couldn't be controlled by a human?
edit2: Eli with the sharp metal thing, maybe that was the sword, lol. Makes me think of young Gray Fox, all agile and such.
Zomba13
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Ah I know why I didn't get it. Quiet put him to sleep when he was running around outside so I didn't throw him to the back and trigger it.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Just to clarify some things
-The scene with Big Boss on the motorcycle was edited for the trailer
-Eli's first boss fight ends with the chair scene if you CQC his bitch ass
-The child soldiers being trained occurs during gameplay now
-Burning village, the location is still in the game but the scene's been cut
-Camp Omega scene is missing
-Kids on tank scene is missing
-The soldier fight scene is still in the game
How sweet would it have been if we could drive on of these or upgrade D-walker to include it as a function?!
-The scene with Big Boss on the motorcycle was edited for the trailer
-Eli's first boss fight ends with the chair scene if you CQC his bitch ass
-The child soldiers being trained occurs during gameplay now
-Burning village, the location is still in the game but the scene's been cut
-Camp Omega scene is missing
-Kids on tank scene is missing
-The soldier fight scene is still in the game
How sweet would it have been if we could drive on of these or upgrade D-walker to include it as a function?!
Did he say human? The whole idea was the cockpit being far too small, and the machine itself being barely functional. So Mantis had to puppet it, basically.
Ether_Snake
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Yes he said human, which I thought was weird. Mantis didn't control it, Liquid did through Mantis. That's the only explanation I think of for using those words. Not sure I get why it could be piloted manually by a child if it wasn't meant to be controlled by a human. Maybe a monkey? Drebin's monkey?!?
I've seen people say this is the best MGS game to date, though. It will be interesting to see the final opinion when more people finish the game.
The Motorbike scene has changed, I'm not talking about the horn.Just to clarify some things
-The scene with Big Boss on the motorcycle was edited for the trailer
-Eli's first boss fight ends with the chair scene if you CQC his bitch ass
-The child soldiers being trained occurs during gameplay now
-Burning village, the location is still in the game but the scene's been cut
-Camp Omega scene is missing
-Kids on tank scene is missing
-The soldier fight scene is still in the game
How sweet would it have been if we could drive on of these or upgrade D-walker to include it as a function?!
The chair scene is contextual then? I CQC'd his ass and didn't get it
Whereabouts? Because the burning village, Kaz said its already been burnt down. But I'm thinking a the screaming at the sky scene is in if you are an evil player and have a large horn.
The child soldiers in the cage? They're the ones being trained? They are locked away lmao.
The soldier fight scene is definitely in, I've seen it. It's triggered by having GMP in the red.
Zomba13
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Wasn't it supposed to be AI controlled but he couldn't get it working right (because he killed Strangelove, the best AI person in history)?
I have no idea though. It does have a cockpit for children. Maybe he built it specifically for Hal? Maybe Hal isn't a human but a robot/nanomachine/parasite/cyborg ninja? Like in one of my Japanese anime?
Maybe try and play the whole game wearing the jacket and we will unlock the true scenes with the real BB not Venom.
Wasn't DD already made when BB was in a coma? When you save Kaz, he already has a shirt with the logo. Maybe Ocelot is just lazy and gave him a DD jacket :c
The Motorbike scene has changed, I'm not talking about the horn.
The chair scene is contextual then? I CQC'd his ass and didn't get it
Whereabouts? Because the burning village, Kaz said its already been burnt down. But I'm thinking a the screaming at the sky scene is in if you are an evil player and have a large horn.
The child soldiers in the cage? They're the ones being trained? They are locked away lmao.
The soldier fight scene is definitely in, I've seen it. It's triggered by having GMP in the red.
How did the Motorbike scene change? Link the original?
Chair scene happens at the end of Eli's fight if you CQC him.
Not sure about the rest.
Ether_Snake
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Well, yeah, presumably it's supposed to be AI controlled. But maybe the child-cockpit thing was a fail-safe thing, if the AI wouldn't control it, his "son" would, and that would put Huey in control of Salehtropolous indirectly, I guess. How did Skull Face expect to control it? Through Mantis? Kind of a weird idea to make it not usable by humans if Skull Face is the one in charge of the whole thing.
edit: So now we have a parallel between Liquid and Jack. Both are blue-eyed blond-haired white kids who led child soldiers in Africa. White Mamba, White Devil. And of course, Gray Fox.
There's so much material to have a game where you have Liquid, Raiden, Gray Fox, Solidus, Big Boss/V, all together in some way. If you're going to make an MGS game that involves child soldiers, there's no better opportunity.
BossDarkseid
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If it wasn't for scumbag Huey, Strangelove would have been alive and the AI that Patriots had wouldn't have been so shit.
Huey was the real demon.
Wavering Radiant
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That made me laugh a little more than expected lol
Then I went back to feeling empty because of this games story/ending..
..And then back to being incredibly sad because of the hole that Quiet left.. ;_;
--Edit: whoops.. missed quite a couple of pages--
HappenstanceUK
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Did any of you ever try using the water pistol on Volgin?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Apparently the village can be found in one of the mine disposal side ops.The Motorbike scene has changed, I'm not talking about the horn.
The chair scene is contextual then? I CQC'd his ass and didn't get it
Whereabouts? Because the burning village, Kaz said its already been burnt down. But I'm thinking a the screaming at the sky scene is in if you are an evil player and have a large horn.
The child soldiers in the cage? They're the ones being trained? They are locked away lmao.
The soldier fight scene is definitely in, I've seen it. It's triggered by having GMP in the red.
This scene.
It seems that it isn't an actual cutscene anymore.
Apparently the village can be found in one of the mine disposal side ops.
This scene.
It seems that it isn't an actual cutscene anymore.
Event he colour grading of the lighting looks different now and more brown/yellow rather than what you have there or the very first gameplay video.
But in any case, cutscenes make it or don't make it...not really something new in game development.
Mr. Smiley
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Kaz will call and say it's not enough water.
BreezyLimbo
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What does kaz know, he doesnt have a leg to stand on.
HappenstanceUK
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*Baddum tish!*
That's weird, I had the exact same feeling.
Death Metalist
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If you look closely after he punches the mirror, it shows the reflection of an Outer Heaven emblem on the locker or wall I think where before he does that it was DD.
Eh, it's pretty good compared to so many other video games however compared to other MGS games? It's fine, certainly much better than the singing A.I's in Peace Walker and the grind you had to do to unlock the final chapter.
The weapon is upgradable so who knows.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
So did Kaz knew all along about Venom, or was he told at the end ?
The recording makes it seem like Ocelot only told him after all the Skull Face stuff was done, so he wouldn't get angry during the main ops and possibly defect.
Also, what the fuck at the cut mission 51. The end of Eli's story is so fucking abrupt in the game as it is right now.
The recording makes it seem like Ocelot only told him after all the Skull Face stuff was done, so he wouldn't get angry during the main ops and possibly defect.
Also, what the fuck at the cut mission 51. The end of Eli's story is so fucking abrupt in the game as it is right now.
Well someone figured it out...I wonder how though.
Kaz was told at the end. Ocelot knew from the beginning.
It's written in the guide I think.
I've tried running around in the open and hiding constantly while I wait for the supply drop to reach her, she still jumped.
mgs2master2
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So is there is there a connection to the tape found in GZ that sounds like an MSX loading and the one in the truth ending?
V3n0m Sn4k3
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In the guide, it has a picture of that scene in it next to Venoms "demon points" chart. So I'm guessing max demon points unlocks that scene.
What guide? If it's a third party guide then someone still had to figure it out.
Auto_aim1
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Piggyback guide, it was out before the game.
Meh...I miss the thick manual from MGS4.
It' sone of those where the guy plays the game and then writes a guide right? like ENB from dark souls
robotoboy20
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Well, to be fair, he was at one point.
But yeah, the AI latched onto that face like one of them AI which only see the ghost of the character and think he is there when actually, he is somewhere else.
Hypnotherapy was clearly not programmed into the Patriot AI's database...hell, even acting in any way different must not be programmed in!
I wonder if they see movies like Lincoln and go "Daniel Day Lewis has been possessed by Lincoln!"
The patriot AI was developed in the late 70's early 80's of course it's limited. AI technology has only recently began reaching high peaks. Not to mention that Zero doesn't have Strangelove or Huey with him which are two of the best AI developers in the world. (at least as far as MGS goes, which is why they were recruited by Coldman.) The thing that separates the two of them and shows how much Strangelove and Huey parallel... Huey developed the Reptile Pod - Sociopath are often compared to reptiles in mannerisms, and emotional cues. Strangelove developed the Mammal Pod - because she's a really a compassionate, good hearted human being. Foreshadowing that I never actually caught on to, but I do think that Kojima just writes this game as he goes.
Anyways, it's an ancient program that Zero had developed without the help of the two best AI researchers on the planet. It was a rogue AI, and it went Rogue in the most hilarious way. Anyways, enough trying to find solid ground for MGS logic...
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BreezyLimbo
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Nope the guide was written alongside with the development of the game apparently. And its a pretty thick guide too!
SnakeLinkSonic
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Yeah most of the truth records clarify that Ocelot was the one keeping tabs on everything that was really going on, letting Kaz in on the Venom deal specifically in that final conversation.
Time skip confirmed
This I from my recording btw.
How does that picture confirm a time skip?
Akiyama_AE
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Just finished the game My theory about the ending was right all along, Knew that wasn't the real Snake
Because people are taking that scene too literally.
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