Ex-tennis star James Blake Mistakenly Tackled, Detained By White Cops

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cpp_is_king said:
No, my counterpoint is that all people, black and white, cops and civilians, should be considered innocent until proven guilty, or unless there is substantial evidence to the contrary. If you find the names of these officers involved, and you find out that these specific officers have a history of racial profiling then maybe you have something.

Right now all you have is yet another instance of "guy treated poorly by police who happened to be black, therefore there's no other possible explanation except that it was racism"
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That's the thing about racism. Most people are willing to admit that it is quite prevalent, but you aren't allowed to look to a specific example unless you've got 100% proof. It's kind of ridiculous, really. The fact is that almost all acts of racism are subversive enough to not be completely obvious.
 
cpp_is_king said:
About 12 years ago I was personally stopped at Barneys after buying a $1200 pair of shoes. I was dressed like shit, young, and didn't look anything like the rest of the clientele in the store, so I always chalked it up to that. I don't know if you'll even find this relevant, but the point is that I have no doubt profiling happens sometimes and it sucks to be on the receiving end of it.

In the Blake case, according to the original article (which omits many details obviously, since it is not an official police report), two people identified James as the actual suspect. Not someone who looked like the suspect, but the actual suspect. Someone pointed at Blake and said that's the guy. So I mean, I don't know. This specific case doesn't sound like a race thing to me.

And again, they shouldn't have just walked up and blindsided him, that was pretty weird. But I don't think the NYPD is really known for treating anyone gently. But I think there's just as much harm in jumping to false conclusions as there is in allowing the racism to continue.

The court of public opinion is dangerous. In the past month or two racial violence has heated up quite a bit, some against cops, some against reporters, but all for no reason. And all of this is fueled by the court of public opinion.

In any case, I don't think it's wise to cry wolf unless there's real evidence of a wolf, because eventually people are going to stop listening.
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And this is what it's all about in the end. You people don't want to hear it to begin with, so anything to give yourselves a reason to divert and tune it works.
 
You know, I was thinking how the defense force for this would rationalize it, because it seems like a hard one to justify. Here you have police needlessly attacking a guy who is a successful Harvard-educated pro athlete, very well-dressed and well-groomed (James Blake always looks really good, and he's on his way to a meeting with a sponsor), who just obviously walked out of a very nice hotel in a very nice part of town, who wasn't doing anything threatening, and attempted no resistance.

I guess "we can't jump to conclusions here" really is the end all be all of police brutality defenses.
 
I would be ok if they had spoke with him first, seeing as two people had told police he was apart of some identity theft ring (bet it was the hotel clerks). But no, tackle and handcuff first. All violence, no questioning.
 
tkscz said:
I would be ok if they had spoke with him first, seeing as two people had told police he was apart of some identity theft ring (bet it was the hotel clerks). But no, tackle and handcuff first. All violence, no questioning.
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Agreed. I think this was shitty police work, regardless of race.
 
The news story left out that Identity Theft Ring Masterminds are commonly heavily armed with concealed assault rifles. NYPD was more than cautious in this case.
 
Well see it is a socio-economic issue. It's just that, you know, the socio and the economics are so incredibly geared against minorities at such a disproportionate level due to the inherent systemic racism in our society that it really doesn't fucking matter because the root issue is still racism.

Rich, poor, doesn't matter, found guilty of being black.

Honestly I'm kind of amazed they didn't plug him a few times and then yell "Hands up" toss a gun and some yay at his feet and claim self defense.

NYPD really making progress.
 
My favorite part is when he sues the shit out of them and win or when they settle the NYC tax payers are the ones footing the bill.
 
so because two people identify you as an identity thief ring leader, you get tackled and cuffed in public?

thats all it takes now?
 
One of many reasons I don't miss the US. I have an easier time being constantly mistaken for one of the shady-ass Africans here in Asia than I do a black man in America. At least the cops aren't going to shoot or strong-arm me here.
 
Damerman said:
so because two people identify you as an identity thief ring leader, you get tackled and cuffed in public?

thats all it takes now?
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Nope. A few cops in Georgia get a call about a robbery. Caller leaves no address. Gives a description of the house. Cops go to the area. Finds a house that matches the description, finds the back door open (as a homeowner with three kids and a wife who doesn't really care, there is a door open, 50% of the time). Goes in and shoots the homeowner and one of his fellow cops. They don't even need to know the source or the specific location.

They literally made up the info. They inflate their ability to CSI anything. It was the wrong house, BTW.
 
POWERSPHERE said:
Famous people should never be stopped by police.
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Edit: It's quite ironic how the NYPD was so angry about how Bill de Blasio told his son how to behave if Cops are going to stop him. So de Blasio was right, but you are just not allowed to say that in public.
 
call_kotaku said:
You know, I was thinking how the defense force for this would rationalize it, because it seems like a hard one to justify. Here you have police needlessly attacking a guy who is a successful Harvard-educated pro athlete, very well-dressed and well-groomed (James Blake always looks really good, and he's on his way to a meeting with a sponsor), who just obviously walked out of a very nice hotel in a very nice part of town, who wasn't doing anything threatening, and attempted no resistance.

I guess "we can't jump to conclusions here" really is the end all be all of police brutality defenses.
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Which is funny because they never say that about the police jumping to conclusions and attacking the guy who didn't do anything.
 
jmood88 said:
Which is funny because they never say that about the police jumping to conclusions and attacking the guy who didn't do anything.
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That's because police have the most dangerous job in America! After fishermen, loggers, people in the airline industry, garbage men, roofers, steel workers, construction workers, farmers, truck drivers and miners.

The most dangerous job in America, so therefore we should give them the benefit of the doubt, besides that guy is no angel, I saw a picture of him looking a bit cross once.
 
kmag said:
The alleged crime was cell phone fraud. Not exactly sure why that requires an aggressive physical takedown.
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Because there isn't much intelligence needed to becoming a cop.
Then again, if I was smart, why would I want to be a cop?

Does that count as a catch 22?
 
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