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Sn4ke_911 said:
Lori Alan had ONE SINGLE LINE in the game.

Nobody can tell me this was meant to be. There was just so much more to this game, i really should stop thinking about it...
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What?

I'm pretty sure the AI pod says some new stuff, like if you shoot at it or just stand around it.
 
Sn4ke_911 said:
Lori Alan had ONE SINGLE LINE in the game.

Nobody can tell me this was meant to be. There was just so much more to this game, i really should stop thinking about it...
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The AI Pod was there to give a way to declare Huey guilty at the end, that's about it. You can't tell me that Kojima fully intended the game to ship the way it did.
 
nbnt said:
Probably the only cutscene where I felt "YES, this is MGS, more of this PLEASE".. fuck I miss the crazy action and fighting choreography.
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I knew Ishmael was the real Big Boss solely due to:

- His bizarre cinematic grab of you, diving down from behind in one of the wards.
- His insane diving sideways gangster style clip blast off the stairs at the Hospital entrance.

When Venom didn't unleash even one special nutzoid move for the rest of the game, it was clear he was a stand-in scrub.
 
fastmower said:
Hayter could have said those 20 lines with just as much effectiveness, IMO.
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I don't think he could. Kiefer had some bad lines but some were fantastic. The speech at the end of "Shining lights, even in death" gave me goosebumps. I can't imagine Hayter doing anything close to that.
 
Misterinenja said:
Sooo can anyone give a summary of so-called cut content?
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Snake goes to the island that Eli is on with the child soldiers and Sahelanthropus. He has the english strain, and has used it to drive all the adults off the island. You fight Eli and Sahel (supposedly), you win. You shoot Eli accidentally because of colorblindness (yeah) but it's okay because he has a vest on. Your men arrive to exfil you. About to exfil eli, oh no he's showing symptoms, gotta leave him here while we napalm the island. Snake gives him a gun with one bullet, Eli repeatedly telling Snake he'll kill him. Eli has the gun to his head, then Kiddo Mantis shows up. Eli grabs his hand and they float off into the sky while the island gets napalmed.
 
Mister Negative said:
Snake goes to the island that Eli is on with the child soldiers and Sahelanthropus. He has the english strain, and has used it to drive all the adults off the island. You fight Eli and Sahel (supposedly), you win. You shoot Eli accidentally because of colorblindness (yeah) but it's okay because he has a vest on. Your men arrive to exfil you. About to exfil eli, oh no he's showing symptoms, gotta leave him here while we napalm the island. Snake gives him a gun with one bullet, Eli repeatedly telling Snake he'll kill him. Eli has the gun to his head, then Kiddo Mantis shows up. Eli grabs his hand and they float off into the sky while the island gets napalmed.
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Well, holy moly. Where is this info from?
 
Alienous said:
What?

I'm pretty sure the AI pod says some new stuff, like if you shoot at it or just stand around.
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Oh ok, tbh i haven't even seen the AI pod in the game, just in that one cutscene with Huey.

Xpike said:
The AI Pod was there to give a way to declare Huey guilty at the end, that's about it. You can't tell me that Kojima fully intended the game to ship the way it did.
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That's what i'm saying, i don't think it was planned to have The Boss to say just a few lines.

I really want to see the original script.

Kenzodielocke said:
I really thought the mammal pod will be a huge deal in this game because zero talking over it in the trailer.
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Yeah everything pointed to it but there sadly wasn't more.
 
meltingparappa said:
I've giving myself carpal tunnel with all the reaching, but his background as a medic might play into the guilt of him botching a quarantine.
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I like it. I'll add this to my growing list of "MGSV that totally happens and are explained (in my head)"

nbnt said:
Probably the only cutscene where I felt "YES, this is MGS, more of this PLEASE".. fuck I miss the crazy action and fighting choreography.
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Yeah but it was ruined by THOSE SNIPING TANK FUCKERS

FUCK MISSION 45
 
Sn4ke_911 said:
Oh ok, tbh i haven't even seen the AI pod in the game, just in that one cutscene with Huey.



That's what i'm saying, i don't think it was planned to have The Boss to say just a few lines.

I really want to see the original script.



Yeah everything pointed to it but there sadly wasn't more.
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Considering it isn't really Big Boss, it makes sense that she won't have much to say.
 
Empty Space said:
I've been struggling with this since it became clear that really was Mantis and the only conclusion I could come to is that child Mantis has his power amplified through the rage and as he gets older the susceptibility to other people's emotions becomes less pronounced, which result in his powers being weaker. This is insanely dumb, but its the only justification I can come up with. The entirety of chapter 2 left a bad taste in my mouth from the removal of mission 51, the weirdness of the body double stuff, and Quiet becoming locked out.

I don't know if Huey is a terrible person and delusional to all the things he did wrong or if everything he'd was being taken out of context and hes not actually a bad guy. I'm inclined to say the former.
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The game itself mentions something about the electrical energy in the brain's neurons escapes as 'the sheath' covering it in children is undeveloped, and this is why mantis ignores Volgin and Skullface during the saha fight.

So older Liquid can't fuel Mantis' power as his brain is fully developed.

However, this is just another fan-canon explanation that Kojima couldn't be bothered to explain himself in the game.
 
Pie and Beans said:
I knew Ishmael was the real Big Boss solely due to:

- His bizarre cinematic grab of you, diving down from behind in one of the wards.
- His insane diving sideways gangster style clip blast off the stairs at the Hospital entrance.

When Venom didn't unleash even one special nutzoid move for the rest of the game, it was clear he was a stand-in scrub.
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And the fact that he basically goes into he survival viewer to fix your broken arm and says "It's a good idea to mend our injuries when hiding from the enemy."
 
Dick Justice said:
Considering it isn't really Big Boss, it makes sense that she won't have much to say.
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True but then why was the pod in the game in the first place? i feel like at some point in development the script just got completely changed and originally it was the real Big Boss we play as.
 
Pie and Beans said:
I knew Ishmael was the real Big Boss solely due to:

- His bizarre cinematic grab of you, diving down from behind in one of the wards.
- His insane diving sideways gangster style clip blast off the stairs at the Hospital entrance.

When Venom didn't unleash even one special nutzoid move for the rest of the game, it was clear he was a stand-in scrub.
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But why does he jump on Quiet's back like a child, rather than use The Basics Of CQC to neutralize her?

Sn4ke_911 said:
True but then why was the pod in the game in the first place? i feel like at some point in development the script just got completely changed and originally it was the real Big Boss we play as.
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To implicate Huey in Strangelove's death. I wouldn't have cared if they'd left it out personally, the whole Boss AI thing was dumb as fuck.
 
Kojima said said openly he didn't want big boss to speak as much and wanted to deliver most of his emotions through facial capture. In a game with a character called quiet and the main theme being language and its manipulation I don't think you can say Snake's lack of dialogue was an accident or unintended due to the actor. If they pulled it off or not is another matter.
 
ezekial45 said:
No, that's not what I'm saying. Yes, they had diseases and they had to be put down. I got that. But ultimately, I felt the sequence showed that they were just as wrapped up in the greater machinations of what it meant to be a part of Big Boss' army.

"We live and die for you, Boss."

The part where you mow down the soldiers in the room, with the Peace Walker theme playing on the cassette tape, was very effective in showing the distorted nature of what Diamond Dogs and ultimately Outer Heaven is all about. Even though Huey was a dick for most of the game, he speaking some truth during this scene. The soldiers in DD and MSF were truly just pawns. Even though those soldiers died in truly horrific ways, Diamond Dogs were out getting new ones not long after. I kinda felt guilty for essentially kidnapping soldiers and brainwashing them into joining this massive, nuclear armed cult.

Again, I realize they were all infected and they had to be put down, but it still was effective in showing the complex that Big Boss and the others created, and the one the soldiers ultimately bought into.
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Did you not see the scene right after that? How he did not want to abandon his fallen soldiers to the lonely ocean and instead make diamonds out of them to commemorate them. And those diamonds weren't used for GMP, they were attached to the DD patch every soldier had so they will always be remembered. That to me seems above and beyond what most soldiers get when they die.
 
When I played it I thought the whole prologue thing with Ahab and Ishmael was just that Ishmael was just either a hallucination or its actually you and "Ahab" is you just having sort of an out of body experience.
 
So who's got the best theme songs?
Naked snake's snake eater/metal gear saga
Big boss's pw theme/Heaven's divide (love deterrence is more paz' theme)
Venom snake's Sins of the father/a phantom pain
Solid snake's metal gear theme/the best is yet to come
Raiden's can't say goodbye to yesterday/rules of nature
Old snake's love theme/metal gear saga

I'd say Venom takes this, but Metal gear saga is so damn good they've used it in nearly every game since mgs3.
 
Every cutscene except the prologue in this game just felt so forced, this game didn't have that smooth flow like the other MGS games.
 
loaf of bread said:
When I played it I thought the whole prologue thing with Ahab and Ishmael was just that Ishmael was just either a hallucination or its actually you and "Ahab" is you just having sort of an out of body experience.
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I think that's what you're meant to assume. The "I'm you, been watching over you for 9 years" make it seem like it's a hallucination of Big Boss's "soldier instincts' or something. It's stupid but just as stupid as what it actually ends up being. I think you're meant to assume Big Boss is hallucinating nearly EVERYTHING in the prologue, including the big flaming whale and all the mantis stuff.

Arion said:
Did you not see the scene right after that? How he did not want to abandon his fallen soldiers to the lonely ocean and instead make diamonds out of them to commemorate them. And those diamonds weren't used for GMP, they were attached to the DD patch every soldier had so they will always be remembered. That to me seems above and beyond what most soldiers get when they die.
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I love that they add a little diamond to your shoulder in game after that. It's a great little detail.

Real Hero said:
Kojima said said openly he didn't want big boss to speak as much and wanted to deliver most of his emotions through facial capture. In a game with a character called quiet and the main theme being language and its manipulation I don't think you can say Snake's lack of dialogue was an accident or unintended due to the actor. If they pulled it off or not is another matter.
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That's why I keep saying real big boss seemed way cooler. It's made pretty clear in the rare appearance of real big boss that he's written as a MUCH more talkative character than venom is.
 
Sn4ke_911 said:
Every cutscene except the prologue in this game just felt so forced, this game didn't have that smooth flow like the other MGS games.
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Apart from Snake's Ryan Gosling disease, I didn't have much of a problem with the cutscenes. Mainly because there was less dull expository drivel being spouted while Snake sat there like an idiot while repeating every statement as a question.
 
Real Hero said:
Kojima said said openly he didn't want big boss to speak as much and wanted to deliver most of his emotions through facial capture. In a game with a character called quiet and the main theme being language and its manipulation I don't think you can say Snake's lack of dialogue was an accident or unintended due to the actor. If they pulled it off or not is another matter.
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But in a lot of scenes he uses less than the minimum amount of words needed to convey his emotions or outlook in that scene.

As a result a lot of the game has him staring off in the middle distance, which I guess is sort of explained by the brain damage.
 
Dick Justice said:
Were you paying attention? He jumps on her back, proceeded by her throwing him off. Legendary Mercenary, Big Boss, tossed about by some random henchwoman.
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And throwing bed pans. But I wouldn't say Quiet is some random henchwoman. She was probably highly skilled even before becoming Quiet. You don't send random goon to assassinate the legendary Big Boss.
 
Is the behind the scenes "legacy" clip worth watching? I've already watching the mission 51 video and the trailers are poorer quality than what they've already released online.
 
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