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Whats the deal with this pic?

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Its from BB at the end but its obviously Venom. Just switched for the trailers?
 
you know that's really hilarious given that the whole thing stems from him misunderstanding the boss's will as well

don't ever tell people your will

I'm betting whoever does MGS6,7,8 will base it all around misinterpreting Solid Snake's will.


Just you watch.

Whats the deal with this pic?

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Its from BB at the end but its obviously Venom. Just switched for the trailers?
Another fiddle play
 
No I didn't realize that was a thing.


It's still dumb, it doesn't matter what they add with her afterward. Changing the opening like that is just lame. I liked the way Ground Zeroes ended, it was shocking and bold. Paz being alive in TPP makes it less so.

Quoting someone else:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=178052165&postcount=14028

As for the whole Venom Snake thing. I had hoped that it was not the case that you weren't actually a double, even though, let's be honest it was pretty obvious, if not from the trailers, then from the heavy handed opening where you give a name and create an avatar. Who you were was by process of elimination the medic, so I wasn't shocked by that. I did however find myself OK with the twist though. Venom doesn't act like the Big Boss we knew, something that is abundantly clear when you go through episode 46. I also find myself LIKING Venom a whole lot. He's not motivated by vengeance, or at least not entirely, but a lot of his motivation is guilt. He wasn't able to save Miller and Boss due to not finding the second Bomb in Paz. He's clearly not consciously aware of it, but it shows through in his actions. He WANTS to save people, Quiet, the kids, even Huey gets spared.

I found the stuff with Paz might be the most important character beat for him in the game. He rewrote his whole memory of events into making the right call and saving her. It's just ironic that he didn't know that no matter what, she was going to die, they had removed far too many internal organs, she had hours left according to the tapes. But that explosion nearly killed Boss, killed Chico, and crippled him. And he has to walk around with bits of Paz in him at all times. Kinda fucked when you think about it. The stuff also implies that medic might have had a thing for her, but that could just be me.

There are way more to the Paz thing for Venom than it looks like. Arguably to me the whole Paz arc is the most emotional impactful scene in the entire game, more so than Episode 43.
 
Yep, it may well could be, Venom could do Freddy Kruger type shit though! That's how Solid Beat up Big Boss's phantom!

MGSV is the in-universe TV show about the exploits of Big Boss during the Afghan War made by the Patriots as the precursor to the S3 project. Gathered data of various TV Shows at the time of its creation taught the early AIs unexplored twists (Dallas, St. Elsewhere) were effective tools in experimenting with the populations emotions.
 
you know that's really hilarious given that the whole thing stems from him misunderstanding the boss's will as well

don't ever tell people your will

All the bullshit in the Solid arc, the hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who die in conflicts either as soldiers or individuals, can be basically sourced back to Zero and Big Boss having a big sook over THE BOSS and completely misinterpreting her vague death throw monologue to fuel their egos.
 
The Quiet thing actually did surprise me, even though it shouldn't have, because a) she looks exactly like Stephanie except the hair is different and you get a lot of good looks at her face while she's trying to strangle you, and b) when she gets set on fire while your eyes are closed the first couple of bars of Quiet's theme start playing.
 
All the bullshit in the Solid arc, the hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who die in conflicts either as soldiers or individuals, can be basically sourced back to Zero and Big Boss having a big sook over THE BOSS and completely misinterpreting her vague death throw monologue to fuel their egos.

This is why The Boss is secretly the greatest villain in Metal Gear.
 
I wasn't a big fan of the Venom/Big Boss switch, but most 46 and the tapes placated my disappointment. I loved the Operation Intrude tape as well.

I have one question though: which one founded Outer Heaven? Did the real Big Boss build it and then the poser came and took it over?
 
I feel like Big Boss really fucked up with his interpretation of the boss' will

She said "to make the world whole again"

How the fuck is making a private army with no boundaries ever going to make the world whole again Snake? Fucking take 3 seconds to think about this.

Zero's vision while twisted was more in line with what she said.
 
All the bullshit in the Solid arc, the hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who die in conflicts either as soldiers or individuals, can be basically sourced back to Zero and Big Boss having a big sook over THE BOSS and completely misinterpreting her vague death throw monologue to fuel their egos.

*The Boss finally meeting Zero and BB in afterlife*
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I feel like Big Boss really fucked up with his interpretation of the boss' will

She said "to make the world whole again"

How the fuck is making a private army with no boundaries ever going to make the world whole again Snake? Fucking take 3 seconds to think about this.

Zero's vision while twisted was more in line with what she said.

That's what happens when you get your ideas from fucking GENE.
 
No even though the parasites all turn female and codetalker says the same happens in the hosts, he really meant men become infertile.

Because being infertile/having a sex change is the same?

It only works if the host has some kind of internal mechanism that would change their sex naturally (insects etc), so it has no effect on humans other than making them infertile. (He says this, but it's pretty easy to forget in the mess of boring biology talk and hamburgers)
 
I feel like Big Boss really fucked up with his interpretation of the boss' will

She said "to make the world whole again"

How the fuck is making a private army with no boundaries ever going to make the world whole again Snake? Fucking take 3 seconds to think about this.

Zero's vision while twisted was more in line with what she said.

"Well she did war...

and I do war...

so the whole world should war?"
 
Oh yeah, what happened to Metal Gear Zeke? Is it still sitting on the bottom of the ocean along with the remains of MSF's base? I thought that Zeke would be taken by XOF and used as the basis for Sahelanthropus, but I don't think that was the case at all.

I don't recall them mentioning anything beyond it being left at the ocean floor.
 
I feel like Big Boss really fucked up with his interpretation of the boss' will

She said "to make the world whole again"

How the fuck is making a private army with no boundaries ever going to make the world whole again Snake? Fucking take 3 seconds to think about this.

Zero's vision while twisted was more in line with what she said.

You don't even have to feel like it, he admits everything being wrong in MGS4, both he and zero were being clowns.
 
BB can only see through a soldier's will or whatever so naturally the only way to make the world whole is to make them all soldiers, and then make it so soldiers can always be soldiers, and fight forever, and oops my head hurts
 
Oh yeah, what happened to Metal Gear Zeke? Is it still sitting on the bottom of the ocean along with the remains of MSF's base? I thought that Zeke would be taken by XOF and used as the basis for Sahelanthropus, but I don't think that was the case at all.

I don't recall them mentioning anything beyond it being left at the ocean floor.
Getting an object that size and weight out of the ocean isn't feaseable.

Also we don't know how deep it was anyway, probably was too complicated to bother so they got they guy that built it.
 
Oh yeah, what happened to Metal Gear Zeke? Is it still sitting on the bottom of the ocean along with the remains of MSF's base? I thought that Zeke would be taken by XOF and used as the basis for Sahelanthropus, but I don't think that was the case at all.

I don't recall them mentioning anything beyond it being left at the ocean floor.

MGS6 we go through MSF ruins to recover it and the nuke.
 
No even though the parasites all turn female and codetalker says the same happens in the hosts, he really meant men become infertile.

Because being infertile/having a sex change is the same?

They change the gender of the parasites to all female, not the host. The host becomes infertile for reasons.
 
I feel like Big Boss really fucked up with his interpretation of the boss' will

She said "to make the world whole again"

How the fuck is making a private army with no boundaries ever going to make the world whole again Snake? Fucking take 3 seconds to think about this.

Zero's vision while twisted was more in line with what she said.

Was that Big Boss's interpretation of her will? I thought he pretty much didn't bother with her will after the events of Peace Walker and sought his own vision for the future of soldiers.
 
Oh hi Jay, what's your opinion on the "twist"?

Ehhh I'm conflicted. I can't decide if it's stupid or brilliant. On one hand it's cool that player becomes Big Boss (as Kojima has said in interview that player is Snake just didn't know he meant it literally) but this messes with the canon so much it's hard for me to fully appreciate it.
 
The Boss: "This is true loyalty, and it fucking sucks, because now I have to die horribly at the hands of a good friend to prevent the USA and Soviet Union descending into a Third World War, and the only reason I'm in this position is because of bullshit USA officials who manipulated me and said friend. Shit sucks dude, it would be sweet if the world were just one, you know?"

Big Boss: "I INTERPRET THIS AS FUELLING THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE BY TURNING THE ENTIRE WORLD INTO SOLDIERS"
Major Zero: "I INTERPRET THIS AS CREATING THE ILLUMINATI THAT MANIPULATES AND CONTROLS THE WORLD FROM BEHIND THE SCENES"

Venom: "i just wanna save kids and puppies"
 
You don't even have to feel like it, he admits everything being wrong in MGS4, both he and zero were being clowns.

Yeah at the end of MGS4 he's like "oh maybe she meant to leave the world alone meaning, don't fuck with it"

Was that Big Boss's interpretation of her will? I thought he pretty much didn't bother with her will after the events of Peace Walker and sought his own vision for the future of soldiers.

Yeah Big Boss' convoluted as FUCK interpretation of her will was like "well maybe there needs to be an army that fights for those who can't fight for themselves so they can be who they are and be part of the world instead of letting other people eat them up, maybe we need a nation of soliders who fight for no nation, no ideology, no philosophy and are just whatever the times need them to become...yeah that sounds a lot like what she said"
 
The Boss: "This is true loyalty, and it fucking sucks, because now I have to die horribly at the hands of a good friend to prevent the USA and Soviet Union descending into a Third World War, and the only reason I'm in this position is because of bullshit USA officials who manipulated me and said friend. Shit sucks dude, it would be sweet if the world were just one, you know?"

Big Boss: "I INTERPRET THIS AS FUELLING THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE BY TURNING THE ENTIRE WORLD INTO SOLDIERS"
Major Zero: "I INTERPRET THIS AS CREATING THE ILLUMINATI THAT MANIPULATES AND CONTROLS THE WORLD FROM BEHIND THE SCENES"

Venom: "i just wanna save kids and puppies"

I cannot stress this enough.









#teamVenom
 
The Boss: "This is true loyalty, and it fucking sucks, because now I have to die horribly at the hands of a good friend to prevent the USA and Soviet Union descending into a Third World War, and the only reason I'm in this position is because of bullshit USA officials who manipulated me and said friend. Shit sucks dude, it would be sweet if the world were just one, you know?"

Big Boss: "I INTERPRET THIS AS FUELLING THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE BY TURNING THE ENTIRE WORLD INTO SOLDIERS"
Major Zero: "I INTERPRET THIS AS CREATING THE ILLUMINATI THAT MANIPULATES AND CONTROLS THE WORLD FROM BEHIND THE SCENES"

Venom: "i just wanna save kids and puppies"

Man that Venom guy sure it a horrible demon.
 
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Twilight Swan (Volunteer)

S+ Combat A++(R/D) A+ A++(Support) A+ A++ (Medic)
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Unique Voice (or one I never heard)
No asthma either

Outpost gameplay
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Awesome. She reminds me of the Major from GITS. She looks badass.

By the way, where's the best place to get some S rank soldiers. I'd imagine it won't be like PW where you can farm certain missions to ad nauseum, but I assume that certain missions could have greater instances of high ranked people appearing.
 
Are we forgetting that venom snake still kidnaps hundreds of people to make them fight their former comrades (just like snake and the boss) or nah?

I mean for all I know I just murdered some dude's friend because my magic pair of binoculars (or int scope of you will) told me he was worse at medicining than him.
 
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