Destiny - The Taken King |OT| Time to Explain
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Yeah, some great realization of potential here. Makes me way more excited for Destiny 2. Jettisoning the old gen can't come soon enough.
Trickster
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It's poorly designed in that you can skip litterally 95%+ of the enemies if you want.
But the boss itself is pretty good by Destiny standards. The mechanics is much more fun than the bullet sponges from before TTK
Which one is that? The dark pit? Shield brothers is the best fight. Just pure fun and hilarity. If you're a titan you can just fly up around the diving brother and he's just flailing his arms, totally pissed but unable to do anything while the team wails on him. Pure comedy.
Jesus, is it supposed to take this long?!
Trickster
Member
Well, it's a raid, so it's gonna take time for people to learn the fights. In a week or two, people who clear it this week will be clearing the raid in 2-3 hours.
And while this raid is definitely the biggest raid in Destiny. It's actually quite short compared to more traditional raids from mmo's. Which tend to have more more bosses than the Destiny raids.
No and yes depending on how you look at it. It's early on so people don't have great gear or know the mechanics well. There's also the factor of new subclasses and what optimal specs/builds are in a raid comp. In a week or two people will be wrecking that raid.
Ahh, I see. I only ran one raid one time last year, so I don't really know the whole process of people figuring it out yet. It took us about 2 hours, and that was because I was underlevelled, so I guess once my regular group figures it out we'll do it in around that time.
It's the ones with the moving walls.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Got 20 Year 2 exotics, only about 4 of them duplicates. Cost me around 130 strange coins. I would say I came out ahead. Draksis is Loot Cave 2.0!
It really is. I expect a patch tomorrow.
And it's awful
I caved and drunk purchased the leg edition. Got an item that boosted my Titan to 25.
Should I do the older missions before moving into TTK? I seem to remember someone in here mentioned that starting TTK blocks out old missions.
Should I do the older missions before moving into TTK? I seem to remember someone in here mentioned that starting TTK blocks out old missions.
robertsan21
Member
Did anyone beat the raid yet?
We gave up on
We gave up on
Gorgoroth, loving the raid so far.
Trickster
Member
Saw someone in the comunity thread saying he had joined a group that beat it 3 tries after he joined
Other than that I dunno, but I think we are 2-3 groups at least that reached Oryx and got tries on him
robertsan21
Member
ok, so the raid has been beaten. that didnt take long.
Oh interesting. Doesn't look like I've played that one yet.
Rollo Tomasi
Member
I dont think they'll patch it until after the weekend.
Edit: oops meant to quote Oscars post.
It sounds like world first was a group with King Gothalion, Professor Broman, Teawrex, anda couple other guys from their crew. I think it took them around 8-9 hours. Goth has a twitch recording of the whole thing.
Why? It's more of a challenge then some of the others...
robertsan21
Member
link to that twitch stream?
Jack Scofield
Member
The first Taken King quest mission feels like an entirely different game. Very atmospheric and not the standard "trigger a checkpoint and face waves of enemies." The cutscene was a good way to add context to it, and the music was fantastic.
Also, does scanning things add anything to the Grimoire, or is it simply for additional story information?
Also, does scanning things add anything to the Grimoire, or is it simply for additional story information?
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Some kind of normalization, I wonder? Or perks?
Just a regular story boss. 4 shots with Icebreaker killed it. Took 6 with a 290 sniper. It's kinda ridiculous. You'd think a 290 would 1 shot something a 160 needs four shots to kill.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
It is just faster as far as I know.
Mass Appeal
Member
oh I know Destiny Gaf just fine, I am one of you, but this thread is brimming with positivity, which means the usual crowd are waiting for the penny to penny to drop, see the Kotaku thread,
Anyways, I am enjoying the game, best online co-op fun this gen,
I do like the feel of the new weapons and hope Bungie keeps going in that direction, adding new elemental damage and quirky perks ala Borderlands
pock3tmonster
Banned
I think I encountered a bug or glitch. I just ranked up the Cryptarch and received a pack including a shader. It didn't have a name, instead it was just two long sequences of numbers. When I tried to equip it, the shader disappeared from my inventory.
Edit: Nevermind, I found it. Shader "18327496-64703388". Maybe I dismantled it instead of equipping it.
Edit: Nevermind, I found it. Shader "18327496-64703388". Maybe I dismantled it instead of equipping it.
Askherserenity
Member
Any tips for a Nightstalker in pvp? I keep getting rocked. Are scout rifles viable in pvp?
If you're not on a Sony platform, you'll have to wait a year to play it. If you are on a PS platform, you'll eventually get it. I think it's one of the best strikes, made even better on harder difficulties. The final boss fight can be incredibly hectic and makes a great case for using your sword as a shield.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Huh. That's really bizarre...
It's a fight where you arbitrarily can't deal damage to the boss for a period of time multiple times throughout the fight because mechanics. There's nothing exciting about it when you compare it to Sunless Cell, Shield Brothers or Fallen S.A.B.E.R
I'm probably also more miffed about it because I play FFXIV as well and one of the end-game dungeons in the expert roulette (that it also biases in favor of the only other one) has the exact same problem except worse by having multiple bosses with mechanics that happen multiple times throughout the fight that render you unable to deal damage to the boss.
I guess spoilers for Echo Chamber mechanics if anyone actually cares:
The Vex that spawn while someone is holding the arc-orb die insanely quick and instead you spend the majority of the time while transporting the orb to the other thing waiting for the wall to move forward so you can run to the next pillar. It's not exciting gameplay, it's 4 people waiting for a wall to move forward so we can start doing damage to the boss again. I can also only imagine how fast we trigger the phase where the boss becomes unable to be damaged after the exotic farm trick, since scaling won't be applied as heavily to this strike compared to all the level 20 strikes.
I think the expansion is great, and the rest of the strikes are great. In fact, I think everything but the boss fight in this strike is great.
Owlowiscious
Member
Is 3oC scourge of winter method patched?
What's a good way to get coins?
Should you use multiple coins before killing to stack the chance? Or use one coin per boss kill to stack chance?
What's a good way to get coins?
Should you use multiple coins before killing to stack the chance? Or use one coin per boss kill to stack chance?
Wasn't patched as of 5 minutes ago.
I did another run with 10 ToC and walked away with two more exotic engrams.
I can't believe they'd sell absolutely useless gear for 31 strange coins. Fucking hell. Haven't played this game in a 9 months basically and misread the damn text. Really stupid. Obviously legendary is below exotic but I was thinking whatever they call the gun higher than special. So annoying. Ugh.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I'm sure they had a good laugh over all the people that will waste their Strange Coins. Strange coins drop every where now so don't worry about it.
It's not patched and it doesn't sound like they're patching it this weekend. I think doing Strike playlists and deciphering engrams will probably net you the most strange coins and engrams. (since enemies in the strike will drop engrams, the boss drops guaranteed engrams and you have a chance of getting some strange coins as a post-completion reward) Your chances of obtaining Legendary engrams also increase the more successive strikes you do, so you're essentially killing three birds with one stone. (And you'll be earning loads of Cryptarch rep at the same time) If someone knows a better method go ahead and chip in.
Another thing when deciphering loads of engrams, decipher them one at a time, check the piece you got, if it would raise your light level, equip it, you'll get better stuff out of the rest you decipher. Decipher your rare engrams before your legendary or exotic engrams in case any increase your light level, so that the stats that come out of the legendary and exotics are the best they can be. As I understand it, what comes out is determined when you pick it up but the stats are rolled when you decipher relative to your light level.
For the farm method, pop one three of coins before entering the room with Draksis, get his health low, kill him and yourself with the rocket launcher, respawn, pop coin, kill him and yourself, rinse and repeat. Bring heavy ammo synthesis. I'd say clear out the room of other enemies each time before killing yourself and Draksis, as ammo pickups disappear when you end up back at the checkpoint, and they can drop heavy ammo, this way you don't end up using a heavy ammo synthesis when you didn't need to. I used 25 three of coins today and got 4 exotics, 1 of them being the Warlock gloves Xur was selling this week except higher in all stats, much better use of strange coins than spending it all on the class item he was selling this week and exotic ingrams. The only reason this is a farming method is because of repeatable easy ultra kills. After they inevitably fix it it'll probably still be worth it to buy some three of coins each time Xur visits assuming he sells them everytime and pop them when killing ultras.
Imo, It is the best strike boss battle so far. Really feels like a mini raid boss.
Anyway, people will always complain: when bosses were bullet sponges, ppl wanted mechanics, when there are mechanics its tedius/long/stupid/whatever. To me it seems, some ppl don't really want to play a game, they just want loot and progression handed to them without effort.
This ties nicely into these recent ToC shenanigans. People would rather break the game than play the game. Makes me sad, especially because if I want to stay competitive, I have to do it as well...
The problem is that it kills the flow of the fight. I outlined exactly why I think it does and it's exactly what I experienced in my first run of the strike. Not the 50th time I ran the strike, anyone would get tired of the same old thing 50+ times. I wasn't helping defend the person doing the mechanics because the amount of adds spawning during the mechanics phase were laughably low and didn't even have any yellows sprinkled in, after we killed the adds we were waiting to go do the thing that let us deal damage to the boss again.
Owlowiscious
Member
Thanks. I hear strike playlists but don't have 240 light yet is the level 20 play list good enough for getting gear?
I'm sure some people want a completely brainless game complete with an endorphin rush slot machine pull-arm. I don't really take issue with people calling out the bullet sponge enemies, it's absolutely lazy bullshit design. Calling out specific mechanics is a little trickier based on playstyles and weapon loadout.
The biggest issue I tend to see with mostly the older strikes is that due to the fact they're sponges with little to no mechanics, people resort to cheese and particular spots on the map to be near invincible while they cycle hundreds of rounds into the boss. Drains all fun out of the experience and makes it feel like a job at that point.
The newer strikes do have some decent mechanics but some suffer from a lack of restraint or clear vision. They tend to throw everything but the kitchen sink at you in terms of enemy types (a big problem with the Taken since they pull from every enemy mechanic/attack type). Ends up devolving into a hellish mess sometimes.
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