Familienoberhauptvogel
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Magic: the Gathering - Battle for Zendikar |OT| Lands matter (but nothing else does)
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Lantern scout is not a great card and there are lots of commons and uncommons I would take over lantern scout.
Vile aggregate
Touch of the void
Gideons Reproach
Complete Disregard
Tajura Warcaller
Rolling Thunder
Eldrazi skyspawner
Clutch of currents
A 3/2 that gains life and is dependent on you having lots of allies in your deck and creatures on the board is not particularly great.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Disagree, most rally effects are more than worth it the single time they trigger and life can be pretty valuable in BfZ limited.
Not to mention that game 1 rally can scare the shit out of your opponent.
Would pick most of the cards you mentioned over it though, definitely not a warcaller though.
Not to mention that game 1 rally can scare the shit out of your opponent.
Would pick most of the cards you mentioned over it though, definitely not a warcaller though.
"God's Beard!"
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The only card I'd pick over the scout from those is rolling thunder. If I got passed the scout there's probably nothing better in the pack anyway. Touch of the void is really good though.
Having trouble working out a build for Daxos that doesn't feel clunky even in goldfishing. I know a certain amount of durdling is pretty common in casual commander, but the deck is super mana hungry, and, unless you get a serra's sanctum out, wb doesn't exactly generate tons of mana. The fact that I need to get Daxos down before I even start to cast enchantments feels rough too.
Thinking cheap anthems + black card draw (dark tutelage, arena, greed, erebos, necropotence) + cheap removal (journey to nowhere, oblivion ring, etc.) is going to be the way to go. Skybind isn't worth it in that deck, though, which was kinda the main reason I wanted to play Daxos in the first place. :/
Thinking cheap anthems + black card draw (dark tutelage, arena, greed, erebos, necropotence) + cheap removal (journey to nowhere, oblivion ring, etc.) is going to be the way to go. Skybind isn't worth it in that deck, though, which was kinda the main reason I wanted to play Daxos in the first place. :/
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Play Zur instead ahuehuehue
blindrocket
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Every FNM? How many people show up? That sounds pretty insane for my local meta.
We used to have one store for years that did FNM. Then another came along, then another. It split up the player base.
Now we have, I think six different stores to do FNM and I bet some of them have trouble getting enough to show up to fire off the tournament.
One store does Modern Thursdays and I've thought about trying that out.
I don't think any of them do any official Commander games.
One store does a lot of drafts for FNM because they make revenue that way because whenever they do standard constructed for FNM it is free with the only prize support being whatever the monthly promo card is.
divisionbyzorro
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Outside of green, black is the best at making mana in EDH. Cabal Coffers + Urborg, plus loads of mana doublers (Crypt Ghast and the like). Making loads of black mana shouldn't be a problem; it's making white that will be a problem.
Time to put my land destruction standard deck to rest. That shit sucks lol. Fnm was dominated by GW Harden Scales for some reason. Creatures can get big really fast.
I have to agree about all the shuffling that happens in standard, or in general really.
Lgs is being pretty lame with the new commander set. You can only get them by the entire set. Gotta find another one that sells them individually.
I have to agree about all the shuffling that happens in standard, or in general really.
Lgs is being pretty lame with the new commander set. You can only get them by the entire set. Gotta find another one that sells them individually.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The only one of those cards that's better than Lantern Scout if you're not in any color is Rolling Thunder, and white has so much removal at common that it's not a big deal. To wit: I had 3 Gideon's Reproch pass me (took 2) and saw several more. Because its a common, so there are a lot of them.
Etrian Oddity
Member
That's why Self-Inflicted Wound is so important in today's standard. It's the only reason I don't like running Temur, you lose out on black. 4c is for goobers and if you go Jund you lose so many great blue-mana cards like Frost Walker, Denial or Ascendancy.
Maybe I'll play around with Jund converge. Hmm.
DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
Watching the Legacy GP, and damn if that format isn't the most varied and interesting one to spectate. Even Modern has become pretty dull to watch these days, but in Legacy, even the most common deck in the format (Miracles) only represents 8% of the field. So why are Wizards and StarCity trying to kill it off? Not quite sure I understand the motivation for the changes they have both announced for next year.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Barrier to entry is even more ridiculous basically. Even without the manabase cost the reserved list means that the pool of cards is always shrinking
da fuck?
Lantern Scout is one of the best allies in the format and is exactly the sort of card you want to first pick if you want to or think you might draft an ally deck. LOL at those commons being anywhere in the same realm (they are all still good cards though) and I still like it over most of those uncommons.
Because the Reserve List is one of the stupidest things WOTC has ever done and will permanently damage the game even is it made a tiny bit of sense back when it was first made 15+ years ago.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Do MODO legacy GPs
From a spectator perspective, I'm not a big fan of Legacy. There's way too much shuffling a deck manipulation. The interesting things that happen tend to be very interesting, but they're sandwiched in by brainstorm, figure for 2 minutes, fetch, shufle, pass, end step, brainstorm, figure for 2 minutes, fetch, shuffle, etc. For that reason, I feel like MTGO suits legacy a bit better for spectators.
As for trying to 'kill' Legacy; my understanding is that Legacy was losing SCG money on the bottom line vs. other formats. Wizards just doesn't support it because of card availability. The reserve list means that lots of cards are expensive and also harder to find, especially in countries where the sets they've been in were never released.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Zac Elsik cheating to win (and yes, he's playing a Prison deck)
I agree, when you're dealing with mono black. Once you really dilute the manabase with non-basics and white sources, it's takes a huge hit. I don't think you can run Cabal Coffers, Crypt Ghast, Nirkana, Nykthos, etc. when you basically have to bank on having urborg for most of them to do anything.
Little Old Man
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What is the mid point in terms of cost of a tournament level legacy deck? Towards £1k?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's about $2,700.00
Haha, no.
You could get a more than decent Legacy deck for that amount. Prices are inflated in the US. You can get staples for a lot less in Europe.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That's what the analysis from like 5 months ago said, actually.
http://modernnexus.com/legacy-and-modern-deck-price-comparison/
http://modernnexus.com/legacy-and-modern-deck-price-comparison/
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think he calculated it including the sheer number of BUG and Miracles decks though.
Moving to a 2-day format was making the Legacy events liabilities because of the barrier to entry.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Ban all cards printed before 8th Edition in Legacy.
blindrocket
Member
Well let's make wild west Modern without a ban list, or at least a much more loose version.
blindrocket
Member
Whoa, Craig Wescoe looks completely different from the pictures I always see of him with his articles.
charlequin
Banned
Because approximately no one can afford to play it and most of its diversity is an illusion created by an inaccessible and non-competitive format? I mean, this seems pretty obvious to me.
keeblerdrow
Member
My girlfriend thought he was a woman just coming into the room and glancing at the screen. @__@
The bolded is something a lot of people don't understand.
Also, the pool of potential standard/modern players is gigantically larger than the pool of Legacy ones.
Dick move but I laughed.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
How is Legacy diversity an illusion? Just curious
Lazy vs Crazy
Member
Almost everything is blue and the metagame is force of will.
And the only reason it's not all blue is because of card availability/cost (with the blue stuff being so much more expensive.)
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Painful truths in legacy, now I've seen everything
divisionbyzorro
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That ain't even close to USC. Grow some skin fellas.
shrapnelmagnet
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It's my fave one to watch, to be honest. for some reason, I just can't get excited for Modern.
Nah, this one was actually expected by a lot of people who knew Legacy. Had people bringing it up when the BFZ spoiler was out and then this nugget a few days ago.
SigmasonicX
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If what you guys say about Legacy's diversity is true, then would it actually be the case that a major resupply of Force of Will and such would actually damage the format?
Anyway, people at MTG Salvation have started getting the new Holiday Gift Box, and apparently they're back to actually being sturdy, so I'm adding that to the Getting Started part of the OP.
Anyway, people at MTG Salvation have started getting the new Holiday Gift Box, and apparently they're back to actually being sturdy, so I'm adding that to the Getting Started part of the OP.
Yeah, I'll probably be asking for some for the Holidays.. I grabbed some Khans boxes for my move, but long-term they're not good.
divisionbyzorro
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Yeah, making a legal play can never be USC.
I don't think you have to name a card legal in the format
On MTGO, I have played many a Phyrexian Revoker in Standard, and accidentally name many a Sapardian Empires, Vol VII because I hit enter too quickly and it's the top name in the list of legal cards
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