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[conman]

These latest reviews are reassuring me in my decision to hold out. This will be a good game in 3-6 months. And if I'm waiting that long, I may as well wait a year for a sale price.

Bethesda-jank used to be charming back in the Morrowind days. It was on par with the old GTA games. The bugs and glitches were part of the fun of playing in an open world. But these days, there's just too many moving parts for those glitches to lead to anything fun or surprising. Rockstar figured that out. Bethesda hasn't yet.

 

[big_erk]

People who are giving this a 9.5 to 10 don't understand how reviewing works.

Solid game so far, but there are so many animation and technical issues and glitches it cannot be considered 'perfect' to 'near perfect'.

People need to stop reviewing based on bias and hype.

Even with the technical glitches I would give the game at last a 9 so far (8 hours in.) I haven't encountered any game breaking glitches, only strange character interactions. Everything else from framerate to stability has been fine.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Big drop on the Metacritic. 87 for PC/PS4 and 88 for XONE.

How is the Xbox one higher than the other two on a multiplat game?

 

[Ullus]

Big drop on the Metacritic. 87 for PC/PS4 and 88 for XONE.

Probably the giantbomb review.

 

[HeelPower]

So can someone explain why there is a massive backlash on metacritic user score ?

Trolling or is the game a disappointment ?

 

[DeepEnigma]

So can someone explain why there is a massive backlash on metacritic user score ?

Trolling or is the game a disappointment ?

The same reason there are massive perfect 10's as well.

The truth is always somewhere in the middle.

 

[tuxfool]

So can someone explain why there is a massive backlash on metacritic user score ?

Trolling or is the game a disappointment ?

Both probably.

 

[Ullus]

Probably a 70/30 split between trolls and actual disappointed consumers.

 

[HeelPower]

Anyway I am far from done with Witcher 3.

I guess I amnot buying this anytime soon ,since it seems so middling.

 

[newjeruse]

How is the Xbox one higher than the other two on a multiplat game?

It usually is. I think Xbox fan sites tilt higher for all titles and that boosts their multi-plats too.

 

[nicoga3000]

I've got enough games to play to wait to purchase this. I'm sure updates and community patches will bring this all together. Excited to play it sometime soon (on PC)! I know PC is supposed to be better, but I'm in no hurry.

 

[Nirolak]

How is the Xbox one higher than the other two on a multiplat game?

Review count. I always use the most reviewed platform unless there's a major reason to believe in a platform difference that would impact reviews.

 

[Game4life]

How is the Xbox one higher than the other two on a multiplat game?

Fewer reviews?

 

[DeepEnigma]

It usually is. I think Xbox fan sites tilt higher for all titles and that boosts their multi-plats too.

Hmmm, I guess I will have to go over and take a look, didn't want to though, lol.

Review count. I always use the most reviewed platform unless there's a major reason to believe in a platform difference that would impact reviews.

Fewer reviews?

I understand the fewer reviews, but how is it fewer if it is multiplat? It is not like IGN is reviewing all 3 copies (so they slap 1 review for all three), especially if they were only sent the PS4 ones (just like they did with Skyrim when only sent 360 copies, and we see how that turned out for PS3).

Are some sites just saying "PS4 only" even though they are multiplat sites? Or are there more PS only sites?

Confusing to say the least.

 

[Acerac]

What's up with the Metacritic user "reviews" of Fallout 4? So many negative.

[IMG]http://imageshack.com/a/img905/9648/ZyuUaP.png[/IMG]

I'd assume those are from people who have been fans of Fallout for quite some time.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

whats the website traffic really like for Metacritic, or page hit for big releases?

 

[N.Domixis]

I guessed an 87 and looks like it's an 87.

 

[Ogimachi]

Userscore on Steam dropped to 80%.
Here's the rest of the series:

Fallout: New Vegas: 96%
Fallout 2: 94%*
Fallout 1: 94%*
Fallout Tactics: 86%
Fallout 3: GOTY Edition: 84% (83% normal one)
Fallout 4: 80%

[*FO2 has 94.06%, FO1 has 94.02%]

 

[privitsan02]

Wow, I expected it to be 90+ easily. Then again, I expected it to be buggy as hell, so it evens out I guess.

Metacritic definitely hasn't been kind to this new generation thus far.

Best wishes.

 

[wanderjahr]

It usually is. I think Xbox fan sites tilt higher for all titles and that boosts their multi-plats too.

I love Glasvegas.

 

[SeanR1221]

Wow, I expected it to be 90+ easily. Then again, I expected it to be buggy as hell, so it evens out I guess.

Metacritic definitely hasn't been kind to this new generation thus far.

Best wishes.

Which is great, IMO.

90+ games should be pretty rare. I like how we're getting more 70-80s games.

 

[Heigic]

metacritic user scores.. where 90% are either a 0 or a 10. Probably not the best way to judge a game.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Userscore on Steam dropped to 80%.
Here's the rest of the series:

Fallout: New Vegas: 96%
Fallout 2: 94%*
Fallout 1: 94%*
Fallout Tactics: 86%
Fallout 3: GOTY Edition: 84% (83% normal one)
Fallout 4: 80%

[*FO2 has 94.06%, FO1 has 94.02%]

Thanks for posting this. It is all making sense now.

 

[Lothars]

Wow, I expected it to be 90+ easily. Then again, I expected it to be buggy as hell, so it evens out I guess.

Metacritic definitely hasn't been kind to this new generation thus far.

Best wishes.

I think reviews are just adjusting in general to a more spread out ranking than a 7 to 10 ranking, which is a great thing overall.

I'd assume those are from people who have been fans of Fallout for quite some time.

I disagree I think it's more people being negative for the sake of being negative especially in user reviews. I've been a fallout fan since the first game and think fallout 4 is still a great game.

metacritic user scores.. where 90% are either a 0 or a 10. Probably not the best way to judge a game.

I think you are on point, no matter the game.

 

[old manatee]

Steam Early Access exists now. If a game is buggy and incomplete it should go there until it isn't.

Companies like Bethesda, Konami, Ubisoft and Activison are just being dishonest by dumping these broken AAA games on the front page for $60 with a Season Pass and every other thing, when their games are obviously still in beta and sometimes take 6 months to a year to fix.

Other companies like Tripwire and Codemasters put their products on Early Access at a discount and are actually honest about the state of their games.

Bethesda has an embargo on the review embargo and they are tweeting that the game has a solid framerate and everything is a-ok! It's bullshit.

jerks.

 

[Alucrid]

I'd assume those are from people who have been fans of Fallout for quite some time.

yeah that's definitely the case, it's also why they're bringing up core concepts of the fallout series like lazy devs, pirating games and ethics in games journalism

 

[Pops Maellard]

Wow, I expected it to be 90+ easily. Then again, I expected it to be buggy as hell, so it evens out I guess.

Metacritic definitely hasn't been kind to this new generation thus far.

Best wishes.

I don't want to be that guy, but subtle evolutions of existing concepts packaged as software that is often broken does not make for amazing reviews. It's hard to call something like Fallout 4 bad when it undoubtedly does what it says on the tin, but to be brutally honest I haven't had very many "oh shit" moments this generation. Most of it has been more along the lines of "oh, it's that thing I remember fondly but now it looks slightly better."

 

[TriAceJP]

People need to stop to see the 10 as perfect.

10/10 literally means 'This cannot be better'.

All reviews are just opinion though. A flawed game can
Be a 10 and a technically solid game can be a 4. Just comes down to how enjoyable it is.

It's a mixture of both. Is it fun? Does it work? How did these work with each other? That is what a score based review is.

 

[Cave Johnson]

10/10 literally means 'This cannot be better'.

And 9.9 means you don't need to go beyond this point to improve

 

[grandwizard]

Wow 87 Metacritic

The Jeff Gerstmann effect

 

[Windom Earle]

Fuck... this is exactly what I feared. I really liked the premise of playing a pre-war character in a far-flung future where everything had changed, but that character doesn't seem to exist from what I played.

Outside of a few comments about the skeletons in the vault and a couple of incredulous comments made to your robot buddy, he seems to have completely accepted the new world at face value. I stopped playing last night at the first township where you encounter other humans and none of the dialogue options really seemed appropriate to the setting of a guy who just woke up from cryosleep.

Oh, well. I'm still enjoying the game, but it seems like a huge wasted opportunity.

Also, the dialogue wheel sucks. It's Bioware levels of bad in terms of giving me results I didn't intend or expect from the one-word description.

This together with the dumbed down skill system will make me wait for a cheap GOTY edition. I can't reward the franchise going into this direction. :/

 

[poppedcollar69]

yeah that's definitely the case, it's also why they're bringing up core concepts of the fallout series like lazy devs, pirating games and ethics in games journalism

Wow equating people critical of fo4 to gamergaters, that's fucking low

I guess that makes you a FJW lmao

 

[mujun]

It usually is. I think Xbox fan sites tilt higher for all titles and that boosts their multi-plats too.

PS4 - 49 reviews - 87
Xbox One - 24 reviews - 88

Fallout 4 doesn't seem to work as evidence for your conspiracy theory.

Need for Speed, opposite of what you are saying seems to be the case.
Call of Duty, both scores are the same but Xbox has half the amount of reviews so it will probably drop below the PS4 score.

 

[Lingitiz]

Also, the dialogue wheel sucks. It's Bioware levels of bad in terms of giving me results I didn't intend or expect from the one-word description.

I dislike the wheel a lot but the way the dynamic dialogue works with multiple people in a conversation is actually kind of cool. If it was combined with the traditional Fallout 3/NV dialogue it would be great.

 

[oneils]

Userscore on Steam dropped to 80%.
Here's the rest of the series:

Fallout: New Vegas: 96%
Fallout 2: 94%*
Fallout 1: 94%*
Fallout Tactics: 86%
Fallout 3: GOTY Edition: 84% (83% normal one)
Fallout 4: 80%

[*FO2 has 94.06%, FO1 has 94.02%]

Doesn't seem to be quite comparable. Fallout 1 has a 24 hr peak of about 270 players. Fallout 4 had something like 450,000 players today.

 

[old manatee]

Doesn't seem to be quite comparable. Fallout 1 has a 24 hr peak of about 270 players. Fallout 4 had something like 450,000 players today.

Fallout 1 hype has really trailed off.

 

[imjust1n]

They introduced settlement base building.... Good by world.
I've been doing that the past 5 hours lol.
I do far don't have many issues with the game sure it's not 10 out of 10 id say like 9 so far. Fallout 3 was a 9.5 and new Vegas was 9.75 for me. I think this is the weaker one but that doesn't mean don't go and try the game. I recommend this game for just about anyone.

 

[Vice]

It's a mixture of both. Is it fun? Does it work? How did these work with each other? That is what a score based review is.

It's a mix of both, but one or two factors can overshadow flaws and give a game a 9/10 or 10/10 score. It's up to the reviewer to decide. A rough diamond can be better than a polished pearl.

 

[Psychoward]

Wow equating people critical of fo4 to gamergaters, that's fucking low

I guess that makes you a FJW lmao

I don't think you understand what he was doing.

 

[Renekton]

Steam Early Access exists now. If a game is buggy and incomplete it should go there until it isn't.

Companies like Bethesda, Konami, Ubisoft and Activison are just being dishonest by dumping these broken AAA games on the front page for $60 with a Season Pass and every other thing, when their games are obviously still in beta and sometimes take 6 months to a year to fix.

Other companies like Tripwire and Codemasters put their products on Early Access at a discount and are actually honest about the state of their games.

Bethesda has an embargo on the review embargo and they are tweeting that the game has a solid framerate and everything is a-ok! It's bullshit.

jerks.

Holy cow you have been chaingunning these anti-Beth posts very hardcore. You put my tiny anti-W3 campaign to shame D:

 

[danm999]

Wow 87 Metacritic

The Jeff Gerstmann effect

It would have been perfect if it brought it down to 88.

 

[Zaventem]

^ haha. Didn't actually think this was ever going to be in the 80s and i like the series. I guess it's only so many times you can be forgiving of said problems.

 

[oneils]

Fallout 1 hype has really trailed off.

lol haha.

 

[GillianSeed79]

Wow. I decided to check some to the user reviews on Steam and...sheesh. I take user reviews with a grain of salt, but it seems like a ton of the Steam reviews are all negative even if the majority recommends.

 

[viHuGi]

Wow 87 Metacritic

The Jeff Gerstmann effect

And dropping, I'm glad reviewers have balls these days, Game is a broken mess on ps4, 87 is pushing it.

With that said, Tomb Raider now has a better Meta than FO4 =)

 

[Tigress]

Fuck... this is exactly what I feared. I really liked the premise of playing a pre-war character in a far-flung future where everything had changed, but that character doesn't seem to exist from what I played.

Outside of a few comments about the skeletons in the vault and a couple of incredulous comments made to your robot buddy, he seems to have completely accepted the new world at face value. I stopped playing last night at the first township where you encounter other humans and none of the dialogue options really seemed appropriate to the setting of a guy who just woke up from cryosleep.

Oh, well. I'm still enjoying the game, but it seems like a huge wasted opportunity.

Also, the dialogue wheel sucks. It's Bioware levels of bad in terms of giving me results I didn't intend or expect from the one-word description.

I'm about where you are and yeah.. I *hate* the dialogue wheel. And yes, it's very bad about giving unintended results. The voice acted PC at least isn't quite as bad as I worried (I still want a silent PC though, it's just more easy to pretend I'm the character that way) but I hate the fucking dialogue wheel. And yeah, how the hell am I supposed to know what each one word reply is supposed to be replying with when it's just one word?

God I hope a mod comes out for PS4 that fixes that.

I love the crafting though. I'm happy that they brought in crafting of items too (like stimpacks). I just gotta find a cooking station or make one cause I wanna know what I can cook.

I haven't gotten in the game really yet. Probably cause I'm tired and I'm doing the typical just trying to find the new mechanics to see what I think. Plus I have to get used to the mechanics before I'll like an RPG. But so far, not feeling it yet totally. I think it's cause with different pieces of armor and all the crafting to get used to I'm feeling a bit lost and that always makes me feel a little cranky (I hate not knowing what I'm doing). ONce I get the hang of it I'll see what I think.

Plus honestly, 3 had the advantage of being the first (live action) fallout I played. New Vegas I liked the setting (I prefer the West). I've never found Boston interesting at all honestly. I have to remember I never find Washington DC all that interesting and Bethesda made it interesting so I hope they can do it again. That's another reason I want another Obsidian Fallout, west coast fallout.

 

[BashNasty]

With that said, Tomb Raider now has a better Meta than FO4 =)

Why do people seem so happy about Fallout 4 dropping metascore? Truly weird.

Fallout 4 is an amazing game. Rise of the Tomb Raider is also an amazing game.

 

[Velurian]

From what I have read the game has:

1. crappy dialogue
2. crappy rpg elements implementation
3. fps combat
4. freaking building sim

The wasteland is said to be the same as ever, lots of fetch quests and dead boring npcs.

Basically fans of past games (mainly 1,2) state that instead of making it an RPG with decent gunplay they have made it into and FPS with some questing and in inventory.

Sad if true. Seems very likely though coz thats what mainstream is these days.

 

[EricTheCleric]

I'd assume those are from people who have been fans of Fallout for quite some time.

More like people that have not been fans of Fallout for quite some times. They changed from fans to nostalgic angry husks when Fallout 3 was released.
Theye are the kind of basement dwelling fans of Fallout 1-2 that saw their "lives" ruined forever when Fallout 3 came out and changed everything (

Spoiler

to the better)

.

 

[SparkTR]

More like people that have not been fans of Fallout for quite some times. They changed from fans to nostalgic angry husks when Fallout 3 was released.
Theye are the kind of basement dwelling fans of Fallout 1-2 that saw their "lives" ruined forever when Fallout 3 came out and changed everything (

Spoiler

to the better)

.

They're too busy playing Underrail now to care that Fallout 4 is even out, the people pissed now are fans of Fallout 3.