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Remember when this thread was about dating advice?

Good times.

In an effort to try and get things back on track, how do you guys deal with differences in religion/political standings?

In the early stages of dating.

I've been completely avoiding it because I'm an Atheist and she's Christian. She mentioned it once, as a "Oh yeah, you're not religious", and I kinda brushed it off with a nope not really.

I think the harder aspects of those two are very important to talk about though, and you should definitely have an idea how you align with their political views early on. I'm interested to hear what other people have to say on this.
 
Just some ribbing, Ray. Don't worry.

Remember when this thread was about dating advice?

Good times.

In an effort to try and get things back on track, how do you guys deal with differences in religion/political standings?

In the early stages of dating.

Best not to talk about it really. If it does come up, try not to polarize the person or their opinions. Keep it light and don't go on rants about what's wrong with their party of choice.
 
Just some ribbing, Ray. Don't worry.



Best not to talk about it really. If it does come up, try not to polarize the person or their opinions. Keep it light and don't go on rants about what's wrong with their party of choice.

But aren't some aspects of what political views they have extremely important to you? Like what if they're literally Ted Cruz and you don't find out until you like them too much to stop.
 
But aren't some aspects of what political views they have extremely important to you? Like what if they're literally Ted Cruz and you don't find out until you like them too much to stop.

In that situation, it's time to move on as those differences are too insurmountable and won't allow you to develop a relationship.
 
Remember when this thread was about dating advice?

Good times.

In an effort to try and get things back on track, how do you guys deal with differences in religion/political standings?

In the early stages of dating.

That's a touchy subject, but one that needs to be discussed if you are considering a serious relationship. If you've gone on a number of dates and are thinking about exclusivity, you'll want to talk about it and make sure these views are in line (or one party or the other doesn't feel strongly about it).

I mean this more in a religious aspect, though. Politically... eh... that's something that shouldn't matter much, unless they're extremely left or right winged.
 
In an effort to try and get things back on track, how do you guys deal with differences in religion/political standings?

In the early stages of dating.

Differences in religion/politics are one thing. It's when their beliefs in either are so staunchly held that they'll believe anything anyone tells them or otherwise refuse to alter their beliefs based on evidence. And they should respect my believes as well.

I could date someone who was Catholic. I could date someone who wants to raise their kids Catholic. I couldn't date someone who believes evolution is a lie, the world is only 6000 years old, and that I need to go to church with them every week.
 
Differences in religion/politics are one thing. It's when their beliefs in either are so staunchly held that they'll believe anything anyone tells them or otherwise refuse to alter their beliefs based on evidence. And they should respect my believes as well.

I could date someone who was Catholic. I could date someone who wants to raise their kids Catholic. I couldn't date someone who believes evolution is a lie, the world is only 6000 years old, and that I need to go to church with them every week.

So you are saying that you can't date a real Catholic, because the oficial view from the Catholic church is that the book of Genesis is literal. Sure, you can find people that go to the church and think differently but that probably means they are not that invested in the catholic beliefes so it won't matter much in the relationship anyway.
 
So you are saying that you can't date a real Catholic, because the oficial view from the Catholic church is that the book of Genesis is literal. Sure, you can find people that go to the church and think differently but that probably means they are not that invested in the catholic beliefes so it won't matter much in the relationship anyway.

Even the Pope is okay with evolution and says that God creating the universe took millenia and millenia. The Pope doesn't speak for all Christians, only the Catholics, but I never mentioned all of Christianity. And it would be a mistake to use Catholic and Christian interchangeably.

If there's a point here, its that I could date a "real" Catholic, but not a "real" Evangelical Christian. And I take issue with calling someone a "real" anything to begin with. Faith of a mustard seed not equating to drinking the kool-aid, and all that.
 
Remember when this thread was about dating advice?

Good times.

In an effort to try and get things back on track, how do you guys deal with differences in religion/political standings?

In the early stages of dating.

Currently dating a Seventh Day Adventist. Even went along to church with her. Not big deal.
 
So on Wednesday, which is my 24th birthday, my adviser at school, is taking my to a Japanese restaurant. I decided to ask a friend (who I have small thing for) to come along. She said yes. Which means I made my adviser a third wheel(?) anyway, I wanted her to come because y'know why not? I mean I teased her when I left campus to get some food anyway.

Is this some good practice? Because I basically asked her out to lunch.
 
As always, you're post is nearly indecipherable. Why would you ask a girl you want to date out to a lunch with your advisor? At this point, just go out and enjoy lunch. Get to know this person. If you like them, ask them on a date just the two of you.
 
Well, being weird helped me a little bit more comfortable around girls here. It's hard to believe but yeah. I flirt with a lot girls on my campus and such.

Yeah, I guess it's not a date but it's something.
Point is it isn't a date, you aren't making your intentions with this girl clear from the get-go. dangerous, fam
 
We don't drive.

What does this even mean? What does this statement address that was in my post?

Are you saying that, literally, the only way for you to go ANYWHERE is for your advisor to accompany you?

Nothing.

But Weirdness is the only thing that works for me right now.

I've got news for you. You'll always be "the weird guy who I think likes me and asks me to go places" to her. No one likes weird. They just entertain it.

You should be interesting, not weird.
 
What does this even mean? What does this statement address that was in my post?

Are you saying that, literally, the only way for you to go ANYWHERE is for your advisor to accompany you?



I've got news for you. You'll always be "the weird guy who I think likes me and asks me to go places" to her. No one likes weird. They just entertain it.

You should be interesting, not weird.

What? No I just asked if she wanted to come. If I could drive then it would be different

I can be interesting too.
 
I have a date today. It will be my first date since... 2010, maybe? And like the fifth date in my life.

I don't know what to expect because I have almost no experience and all of those experiences I do have went poorly.

I know almost nothing about the girl. I met her on OKC, we exchanged a few messages, then planned the date.

I wasn't expecting this to happen. I mean I've sent out like 800 messages on OKC over the last couple years with no luck so I'd pretty much given up.

What do, GAF? How do I do dating?
 
I have a date today. It will be my first date since... 2010, maybe? And like the fifth date in my life.

I don't know what to expect because I have almost no experience and all of those experiences I do have went poorly.

I know almost nothing about the girl. I met her on OKC, we exchanged a few messages, then planned the date.

I wasn't expecting this to happen. I mean I've sent out like 800 messages on OKC over the last couple years with no luck so I'd pretty much given up.

What do, GAF? How do I do dating?

Don't put too much pressure on yourself. Now where do you live? Think about interesting places you can go to that won't break the bank, something that will keep the conversation going but can also give you some breathing room so you don't feel too pressured into keeping a conversation flowing.

Too many people think that if there's any silence during a conversation, it's awkward. That's complete bullshit. Pauses in conversation are normal, use them to try and think up something interesting to say. Don't linger too much on any one topic or conversation either.

Mostly, just chill and don't think of it as anything more than a meet up with someone. Don't put any unnecessary pressure on yourself to make it go well.
 
I have a date today. It will be my first date since... 2010, maybe? And like the fifth date in my life.

I don't know what to expect because I have almost no experience and all of those experiences I do have went poorly.

I know almost nothing about the girl. I met her on OKC, we exchanged a few messages, then planned the date.

I wasn't expecting this to happen. I mean I've sent out like 800 messages on OKC over the last couple years with no luck so I'd pretty much given up.

What do, GAF? How do I do dating?

Don't treat it like your first date in 5 yrs. Don't overthink things. Don't put her on a pedestral. She's just a person. Easier said than done sometimes, I know.

A greeting hug is fine. Don't force a kiss unless the moment seems right.

What kind of date? Coffee?

What went poorly in the previous dates?
 
Coffee dates never really seem like a first date thing for me. I think trying to do something fun and interesting while also talking can leave a much better impression. Museums, funfair (if there's one nearby), other attractions that aren't crazy expensive but can help to make an impression and leave both of you happy by the end.

Won't always work, but coffee and the need to keep talking until the date is over seem more like a second date thing if it ever gets there.
 
I've done coffee for most of my first dates. It has never failed me, but then again I am quite selective of my dates and usually talk to them for at least a few days to a week before meeting. Perhaps that is correlated to my success with them, but I've never failed to get a second date on the back of a coffee first date. Take that as you will.
 
What? No I just asked if she wanted to come. If I could drive then it would be different

I can be interesting too.

Well then, be interesting, not weird.

Asking someone on a "date" with your adviser is weird.

Asking her out for a walk to a nearby park or coffee shop is not (no driving required!)


Look at that, all the negativity you were having and you got a date. Must not be ugly after all, right? :p

But like most said: Don't overthink it, go with the flow, and don't be negative. Be confident in yourself.
 
On the subject of politics and dating I have a question. For those of you interested in politics, how would y'all feel about dating someone who you get along with amazingly on just about every other subject but they feel that both parties are the same? Yesterday during a Facetime session I brought up the dem debate and he brought up the South Park douche and terd sandwich thing. I decided to end that part of the conversation.

We've know each other for months and it looks as if we're going to get serious soon. Serious as moving in to an apartment together once I graduate. I might be overthinking this but I do think politics are important. I just wanted some more opinions.
 
If it's not a deal-breaker for you (if it is, then end it, I guess), just don't bring up politics any more.

Or whenever the GOP does or says something dumb, you can just says "oh yeah, just like the Dems!"
 
Don't treat it like your first date in 5 yrs. Don't overthink things. Don't put her on a pedestral. She's just a person. Easier said than done sometimes, I know.

A greeting hug is fine. Don't force a kiss unless the moment seems right.

What kind of date? Coffee?

What went poorly in the previous dates?

Dinner and drinks at a bar near where she lives, as per her suggestion. It's a bit of a drive for me but I don't really mind.

As for the previous dates... I just didn't say the right things, I guess. After I saw them, they stopped replying to my texts.

What do I even talk about? What if we don't have any shared interests? How do I know if the moment seems right for a kiss? What if I think it seems right and I go for it but I was wrong?
 
Dinner and drinks at a bar near where she lives, as per her suggestion. It's a bit of a drive for me but I don't really mind.

As for the previous dates... I just didn't say the right things, I guess. After I saw them, they stopped replying to my texts.

What do I even talk about? What if we don't have any shared interests? How do I know if the moment seems right for a kiss? What if I think it seems right and I go for it but I was wrong?

You're thinking way too much and you're very insecure, and insecurity reeks and is the definition of unattractive.

Just go there as calm as you can, don't think about "WHEN DO I KISS HER" and stupid shit like that. Just be relaxed and have fun. You'd know if you two are getting along, and you'll know when it's time to kiss.
 
So on Wednesday, which is my 24th birthday, my adviser at school, is taking my to a Japanese restaurant. I decided to ask a friend (who I have small thing for) to come along. She said yes. Which means I made my adviser a third wheel(?) anyway, I wanted her to come because y'know why not? I mean I teased her when I left campus to get some food anyway.

Is this some good practice? Because I basically asked her out to lunch.

Very good or very bad idea depending on how you want to play this. Since you invited her as third wheel, you are going to have to give attention to both. I know you meant the adviser to be third wheel, but here the third wheel is the girl.
Depending on whether the adviser is a guy or a girl things will take different turns: if it's a guy prepare to see her give more attention to him (especially if she is into you, she'll do this), if it's a girl who invited you to be alone with you and you were oblivious to it, then the date will be really problematic.
Especially if you invited the other girl without checking with your adviser first.

I have a date today. It will be my first date since... 2010, maybe? And like the fifth date in my life.

I don't know what to expect because I have almost no experience and all of those experiences I do have went poorly.

I know almost nothing about the girl. I met her on OKC, we exchanged a few messages, then planned the date.

I wasn't expecting this to happen. I mean I've sent out like 800 messages on OKC over the last couple years with no luck so I'd pretty much given up.

What do, GAF? How do I do dating?

Don't offer things you don't offer to friends: if you don't buy things for your friends (coffee, lunch, beer or whatever) don't buy things for her. At least nothing expensive.
Keep self deprecating humour to a minimum. It works like a charm if you are an extrovert because it's balanced by the outgoing personality, but it works against you if you don't speak much. Make a mental note: at three self deprecating jokes, no more self deprecating jokes.
Make her talk more. Wait, I'll rephrase: let her speak XD She is probably going to ask open ended questions but always keep a mental check to not talk too much about your troubles or worries. The attention may push you to monopolize the conversation for half-hour and tell her your life story.
Tell her a joke. Tell her she can't laugh though. Ask her to tell a joke herself.
If you ask an opinion about something, DO NOT hijack her: say you ask her what she thinks about Inside Out, for example. Whatever she says, only give her your opinion if she asks it first, otherwise it will look like you just wanted to speak up yours.
HIGH FIVES.
Ask her for something. I mean, something meaningless like a pen (to draw something or whatever) or an handkerchief because you forgot yours, or a gum/candy.
OKC is pretty extensive on pre-dating info, so don't be afraid about her not liking you for something you say. She knows how you look, she knows who you are (or some version of it) at this point is just about spending some fun/relaxing time together.
 
Very good or very bad idea depending on how you want to play this. Since you invited her as third wheel, you are going to have to give attention to both. I know you meant the adviser to be third wheel, but here the third wheel is the girl.
Depending on whether the adviser is a guy or a girl things will take different turns: if it's a guy prepare to see her give more attention to him (especially if she is into you, she'll do this), if it's a girl who invited you to be alone with you and you were oblivious to it, then the date will be really problematic.
Especially if you invited the other girl without checking with your adviser first.



Don't offer things you don't offer to friends: if you don't buy things for your friends (coffee, lunch, beer or whatever) don't buy things for her. At least nothing expensive.
Keep self deprecating humour to a minimum. It works like a charm if you are an extrovert because it's balanced by the outgoing personality, but it works against you if you don't speak much. Make a mental note: at three self deprecating jokes, no more self deprecating jokes.
Make her talk more. Wait, I'll rephrase: let her speak XD She is probably going to ask open ended questions but always keep a mental check to not talk too much about your troubles or worries. The attention may push you to monopolize the conversation for half-hour and tell her your life story.
Tell her a joke. Tell her she can't laugh though. Ask her to tell a joke herself.
If you ask an opinion about something, DO NOT hijack her: say you ask her what she thinks about Inside Out, for example. Whatever she says, only give her your opinion if she asks it first, otherwise it will look like you just wanted to speak up yours.
HIGH FIVES.
Ask her for something. I mean, something meaningless like a pen (to draw something or whatever) or an handkerchief because you forgot yours, or a gum/candy.
OKC is pretty extensive on pre-dating info, so don't be afraid about her not liking you for something you say. She knows how you look, she knows who you are (or some version of it) at this point is just about spending some fun/relaxing time together.

I'm always amazed at your take on the female psyche.
 
Sigh... you know when you feel worthless, that you'll never meet the right person, and that there's no good chance of you meeting somebody who'll genuinely care for you?

Alone on a Saturday night, knowing how JLAW feels...
 
Don't really have many friends to go out with to be fair. They're all either in other parts of the country or with their SOs on a Saturday night.

Go out by yourself? It's not as bad as it might seem. You might even meet others other who are also out alone.

Won't get anywhere or make things better just sitting indoors and lamenting your situation.
 
Go out by yourself? It's not as bad as it might seem. You might even meet others other who are also out alone.

Won't get anywhere or make things better just sitting indoors and lamenting your situation.
That kind of thing just absolutely terrifies me. And yeah I know about the second part, its just easier said than done. I feel so exhausted from my work week that self-improvement falls by the way side, unless friends are doing something.
 
Very good or very bad idea depending on how you want to play this. Since you invited her as third wheel, you are going to have to give attention to both. I know you meant the adviser to be third wheel, but here the third wheel is the girl.
Depending on whether the adviser is a guy or a girl things will take different turns: if it's a guy prepare to see her give more attention to him (especially if she is into you, she'll do this), if it's a girl who invited you to be alone with you and you were oblivious to it, then the date will be really problematic.
Especially if you invited the other girl without checking with your adviser first.



Don't offer things you don't offer to friends: if you don't buy things for your friends (coffee, lunch, beer or whatever) don't buy things for her. At least nothing expensive.
Keep self deprecating humour to a minimum. It works like a charm if you are an extrovert because it's balanced by the outgoing personality, but it works against you if you don't speak much. Make a mental note: at three self deprecating jokes, no more self deprecating jokes.
Make her talk more. Wait, I'll rephrase: let her speak XD She is probably going to ask open ended questions but always keep a mental check to not talk too much about your troubles or worries. The attention may push you to monopolize the conversation for half-hour and tell her your life story.
Tell her a joke. Tell her she can't laugh though. Ask her to tell a joke herself.
If you ask an opinion about something, DO NOT hijack her: say you ask her what she thinks about Inside Out, for example. Whatever she says, only give her your opinion if she asks it first, otherwise it will look like you just wanted to speak up yours.
HIGH FIVES.
Ask her for something. I mean, something meaningless like a pen (to draw something or whatever) or an handkerchief because you forgot yours, or a gum/candy.
OKC is pretty extensive on pre-dating info, so don't be afraid about her not liking you for something you say. She knows how you look, she knows who you are (or some version of it) at this point is just about spending some fun/relaxing time together.

....high fives....?

Don't really have many friends to go out with to be fair. They're all either in other parts of the country or with their SOs on a Saturday night.

Go out by yourself, bro! Meet new people that live near you!

That kind of thing just absolutely terrifies me. And yeah I know about the second part, its just easier said than done. I feel so exhausted from my work week that self-improvement falls by the way side, unless friends are doing something.

To be blunt, you're going to have to learn to get over that if you wanna make strides towards anything.

And you can start by going out by yourself tonight for an hour or two! Doesn't have to be long.
 
I don't do it regularly but honestly it's a pretty good way of establishing very rudimentary physical contact.

I feel brojobs are better at this, you can do it between friends too
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High fives makes the women wet.

I don't get this part of the post:

Ask her for something. I mean, something meaningless like a pen (to draw something or whatever) or an handkerchief because you forgot yours, or a gum/candy.
 
Browsing Reddit one day, and saw a dating related post that made me facepalm. Dude's a 34 year old virgin and a chick was hitting on him at a party, rubbing her boobs against his arm multiple times and shit, and he did nothing. Made tons of bullshit excuses when other posters told him to ask her out. Some people are truly beyond help, smh

I need to go out to a (decent) bar/club by myself sometime. I just can't find opportunities to meet girls anymore. I'm paying the price for having social anxiety during my uni years. I don't have any good pictures to use on dating sites, and to be honest I feel really uninteresting compared to the girls who have tons of stuff to write about in their bios which is really putting me off. I have a temporary job now so hopefully things might actually get better.
 
That kind of thing just absolutely terrifies me. And yeah I know about the second part, its just easier said than done. I feel so exhausted from my work week that self-improvement falls by the way side, unless friends are doing something.

The first time is always difficult. As gaiages said, just pop out for an hour or two. Get over that initial fear and it'll feel more natural the next time and you'll gain more confidence too.

Too much of a stigma around going out alone. Causes some people to just stay in and that leads to its own problems....
 
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