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True Savior
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Guys guys
http://breakupshop.com/
Now we need to create a askherout.com or something similar. This is a billion dollar idea.
edit : it actually exists
http://breakupshop.com/
Now we need to create a askherout.com or something similar. This is a billion dollar idea.
edit : it actually exists
depths20XX
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How do people find lasting relationships on dating sites? I strictly use okc and when I'm active on it I feel like it isn't too difficult to get dates but it is difficult to form anything from it.
Like you can have one night stands or a few dates but it always just fizzles really early somehow. I've only met one girl from there that I feel like we truly got to know each other and we dated for around 6 months but it still had this odd "casual" air to the whole relationship.
For a while I was completely jaded and tired of the experience but recently jumped back in and was really excited to meet this last girl (99% match lol) but then yet again, just a one night stand and she doesn't want to see me again and I'm left feeling confused. I think there's just something wrong with me at this point.
Like you can have one night stands or a few dates but it always just fizzles really early somehow. I've only met one girl from there that I feel like we truly got to know each other and we dated for around 6 months but it still had this odd "casual" air to the whole relationship.
For a while I was completely jaded and tired of the experience but recently jumped back in and was really excited to meet this last girl (99% match lol) but then yet again, just a one night stand and she doesn't want to see me again and I'm left feeling confused. I think there's just something wrong with me at this point.
It's really hard to say just from reading your post, but I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with you if you're getting dates and one night stands in the first place. Maybe think about how you're coming across to these girls - if you want a relationship, are you somehow giving vibes that indicate otherwise? Maybe it's the kind of girls you end up meeting on the site? (i.e. ones that don't necessarily want a long term thing?)
depths20XX
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I always take the first date as just getting to know the girl, enjoying each others company, and that's basically it. I'm not the type of person to insinuate sexual stuff on a first date at all. It takes me a long time to warm up to people and I think that's basically the problem.
I will admit that I am more drawn to the profiles that match up more with me sexually as I would consider myself a very sexual person but by no means am I out there getting laid all the time. The girls I meet seem to want a long term thing but only a nighter with me. I dunno. I'll keep trying.
ZackieChan
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How many girls have you gone out with through this? Do you really expect to find a long-term relationship that easily?
I guess if you interacted with someone a lot before dating, ala real life, then a long-term relationship is easier to get into. With online dating, you're basically starting that interaction on the first date, so you don't even know if it will be someone you want long term. Same on their end.
electricshake
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I posted in the online dating OT but I just celebrated my 1 year anniversary with my bf that I met on okc. So it does happen. Might take a while though.
ZackieChan
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Had to sit through Spectre a second time in order to have a successful date last night. The things I do...
What a boring fucking movie.
What a boring fucking movie.
You are stronger than me. I didn't even make through once. Zzzzzzzz
Miles Quaritch
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At least the date was a success. Silver lining and all that.
And really, we've all done things to get a date to go well. I had to sit through Lion King in theatre once. Goddamn, now that was boring as fuck.
Shuggananas
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I managed to dodge the hunger games bullet.
I'm also glad I wasn't dating back when 50 shades came out.
I'm also glad I wasn't dating back when 50 shades came out.
Yeah that seems very much like he's wanting to "Netflix and chill" with you. I wouldn't even bother suggesting coffee. Just tell him no thank you and unmatch him and move on.
InfiniteBento
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After dealing with a lot these past two weeks, I realized me being on Tinder plus a bunch of other things was a distraction from my actual feelings.
I felt as though me and HD were never going to openly be able to communicate about issues we've had for the past year.
Yesterday, we agreed to sit down and talk over hot chocolate. A lot was said and a lot was hashed over. After breaking it all down, we both realized something pretty crucial. We were bottling things up instead of being honest with each other. While talking, we both said a lot that the other person needed to hear. Ultimately, we decided we want to give it another go but be a lot more forward with our communicating.
We still need to grow as individuals and will avidly do so instead of melding us into one blob. We moved a little too fast with some things and agreed that we need to focus on ourselves more but still be there for each other. We also need to speak up about issues instead of keeping them to ourselves then turning bitter.
I wasn't expecting us to communicate this well simply because so much has happened but he acknowledged a lot of my feelings that I believed he never noticed and I did the same for him. It was a big change of perspective being apart those two weeks. I'm feeling hopeful for our future. I feel that deep down in my bones this is worth fighting for, we just really need to work on communicating more + being more independent.
I felt as though me and HD were never going to openly be able to communicate about issues we've had for the past year.
Yesterday, we agreed to sit down and talk over hot chocolate. A lot was said and a lot was hashed over. After breaking it all down, we both realized something pretty crucial. We were bottling things up instead of being honest with each other. While talking, we both said a lot that the other person needed to hear. Ultimately, we decided we want to give it another go but be a lot more forward with our communicating.
We still need to grow as individuals and will avidly do so instead of melding us into one blob. We moved a little too fast with some things and agreed that we need to focus on ourselves more but still be there for each other. We also need to speak up about issues instead of keeping them to ourselves then turning bitter.
I wasn't expecting us to communicate this well simply because so much has happened but he acknowledged a lot of my feelings that I believed he never noticed and I did the same for him. It was a big change of perspective being apart those two weeks. I'm feeling hopeful for our future. I feel that deep down in my bones this is worth fighting for, we just really need to work on communicating more + being more independent.
ZackieChan
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Gotdatmoney
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I liked Spectre . . .
n64coder
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Great! It's important to talk with each other when there's something bugging you. You can't read each other's mind. It's easy to forget to this but it's important to do for every relationship. Good luck!
depths20XX
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I dunno, somewhere around 13 girls? Seems like a decent amount to me. Decent enough that it's a bit tiring at this point. I'll keep trying.
lol now I wonder what they said...
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in other news, I have a couple of offers for the Tokyo area in January and I'm really, really looking forward to the upgrade in my dating life.
ZackieChan
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I'm trying to get back there in March-April. Good luck! Maybe we can meet up.
Hydrogen Bluebird
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In a 6.5 year relationship, and we've been living together for 1.5. But I somehow feel like our relationship isn't making me as happy and fulfilled as it once did. My GF has some negative traits that I feel she won't be able to improve (as she's had time to do so and even w/ me informing her). I also miss the chase, and the feeling of getting to know a girl more and more (and being with someone new)
Its 1 AM where I'm from and I've been thinking about this instead of going to bed. Any suggestions on what I should do?
Its 1 AM where I'm from and I've been thinking about this instead of going to bed. Any suggestions on what I should do?
Reavr
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I think there's two big things to take from your post here.
The first of which is the point you made about her negative traits. I don't think anyone here can really tell you how to feel about those traits of hers. It's simple. If it affects you, it affects you. However, what you have to keep in mind is that there's going to be negatives about every single person you'll ever date, and it varies from girl to girl. There could be things that your girlfriend does that bothers you that other girls don't do; but at the same time, there could also be a lot of things that your girlfriend does right that others might not -- things you wouldn't even be able to fathom, honestly. So, what you have to ask yourself about all of this is "does the good outweigh the bad?"
When it comes to the chase, this is where I have to vehemently disagree with your thought process. The worst thing you could possibly do to yourself is to seek out the 'dating high.' I agree that the sense of discovery is quite a thrill when dating someone new that peaks your interest, but that rush will inevitably go away no matter who you meet. So, you can't condition yourself to chase that thrill or else every girl you date will ultimately leave you feeling unfulfilled once you've learned all you could learn about them. The long-term issue with that is you could start to reflect back on women you've let go of and think "man... I should have stuck around. She was awesome."
Obviously, all of that is irrelevant until you decide what to do about the here and now.
Without knowing the full extent of your situation, all I can say is that you really need to take some time to sit down and ask yourself whether your current relationship has the makeup to become fulfilling again. Hell, jot down a list of all of the positives and negatives (from the most basic of basics down to the specifics) and analyze the potential the two of you have together based on that.
If you come away feeling like there's still a pulse, try to sit her down and have one last talk to drive your concerns home once and for all, and leave the ball in her court. If she doesn't make a visible, concerted effort to improve for the sake of your relationship's prosperity, your decision is made. There's nothing for you to figure out. However, if she puts in the work to improve on her end, you need to check back in all the way and push just as hard to make things healthier. No waffling.
What kind of negative traits? Everyone has negative traits.
So there's a chick that I get on well with and liked for some time. I asked her out once and she said no so like I always do I thought oh well and gave up. She's quite a shy chick when it comes to guys, from talking a lot with her, she doesn't have many boyfriends and doesn't like talking about that kinda thing to any of her friends too. When we was talking about something similar once she said she didnt wan't a boyfriend just because people kept suggesting she should or whatever.
Anyway, three months later (this last week actually) one of her friends randomly asked me if I liked her. I dropped some hints to her friend, told her that I liked her and even asked her out three months ago and that she said no so I moved on. Couple of days ago her friend and I was talking and she had a small grin on her face and said she had been talking with her about me. She said that the chick that I liked told her she didn't know me properly and so didnt know if she could trust me. In the past, i've had a bit of a reputation of not being able to commit and having a fair few girlfriends, something i've been trying to correct recently.
She's been acting a lot more friendly and flirty with me recently but i'm not sure if she's interested or not or even what I can do. I'm kinda reluctant to ask her out again because of what happened last time but I know she would never initiate anything like that too because shes way too shy. Her friend randomly asked me if I was a virgin and I told her I wasn't, I kinda clicked on and assumed to her that the chick I like was a virgin and she went quiet and wouldnt say anything.
Sorry about the whole wall of text but I could do with some advice here, what can or should I do? Should I leave alone still? Thing is, I actually do really like this chick and don't really view her as just another lay, she seems to have everything i'm looking for in a girl.
Anyway, three months later (this last week actually) one of her friends randomly asked me if I liked her. I dropped some hints to her friend, told her that I liked her and even asked her out three months ago and that she said no so I moved on. Couple of days ago her friend and I was talking and she had a small grin on her face and said she had been talking with her about me. She said that the chick that I liked told her she didn't know me properly and so didnt know if she could trust me. In the past, i've had a bit of a reputation of not being able to commit and having a fair few girlfriends, something i've been trying to correct recently.
She's been acting a lot more friendly and flirty with me recently but i'm not sure if she's interested or not or even what I can do. I'm kinda reluctant to ask her out again because of what happened last time but I know she would never initiate anything like that too because shes way too shy. Her friend randomly asked me if I was a virgin and I told her I wasn't, I kinda clicked on and assumed to her that the chick I like was a virgin and she went quiet and wouldnt say anything.
Sorry about the whole wall of text but I could do with some advice here, what can or should I do? Should I leave alone still? Thing is, I actually do really like this chick and don't really view her as just another lay, she seems to have everything i'm looking for in a girl.
ZackieChan
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There's no rules, my man. Do it when you feel right. Start with minor physicality - touching her shoulder or lower back when you're walking around with her, letting your knees touch if you're sitting close together. If she doesn't recoil, then maybe you can step it up. Hold her hand when you're sitting at a table or put your arm around her when you're going up an escalator. Again, if she is responsive to this and you two are more comfortable together physically, try to get in a position where you're alone and sitting close. Usually this is on a couch at your or her place. You kind of have to feel the vibe before kissing, but if you're both alone together and it feel right, maybe touch her hair and look into her eyes. If she's reciprocating, then maybe the time is right to go for a kiss!
I know that all might sound kind of clinical or step-by-step, but it isn't. When I'm on a date, I try to be physical with my date right away. I'm no longer shy about letting them know through my actions that I am interested in them physically. Sometimes they don't reciprocate, which happened to me the other day when I held a girl's hand while crossing the street, then kept holding it after. She just didn't really seem to hold it back. Oh well. Then you realize that they're not into that kind of relationship. It's fine. I don't mind just being friends with her.
But if they DO look happy that you did it, then you're good to go. Sorry for the rambling post. I'm supposed to be working -_-
Just play it by ear dude. If things are going well and it feels right, go for it.
Not really related to dating, rather friendship. Thought I'd ask here anyway.
Been talking to this girl I met online for some time now, mostly about dating related things. I asked her out on a date, she said she wasn't really interested but I was cool with that so we kept talking. Then met once and went for a walk and talked a good while. Talked a lot since then too.
Anyway, so I was wanting to see her again (to clarify, just as friends) and she said this Tuesday that yeah it can work (EDIT: She was actually the one who asked to meet on Tuesday now that I think about it), she would get back to me. Tuesday rolls around and hear nothing from her. Whatever I think, so next day I ask her again, she says okay but after dinner. Dinner takes long and she needs to get up early so she cancels again, I get a bit annoyed but think fair enough. Then she says I'm going out with friends tomorrow but can probably meet after. Don't hear anything after that. So I tell her after two days of not hearing from her at all, that it feels like she doesn't respect my time at all. She says something like "I can't believe you're getting mad over this. What do you want me to say even? Sorry I'm busy?" and that I should've checked in to see how it was going, that it wasn't her fault that I was stuck waiting.
Am I in the wrong here? If I say that we can probably meet and then it turns out I can't, I'd get back to the person immediately when I know. In my mind at least, anything else is just disrespectful. What do you all think?
Been talking to this girl I met online for some time now, mostly about dating related things. I asked her out on a date, she said she wasn't really interested but I was cool with that so we kept talking. Then met once and went for a walk and talked a good while. Talked a lot since then too.
Anyway, so I was wanting to see her again (to clarify, just as friends) and she said this Tuesday that yeah it can work (EDIT: She was actually the one who asked to meet on Tuesday now that I think about it), she would get back to me. Tuesday rolls around and hear nothing from her. Whatever I think, so next day I ask her again, she says okay but after dinner. Dinner takes long and she needs to get up early so she cancels again, I get a bit annoyed but think fair enough. Then she says I'm going out with friends tomorrow but can probably meet after. Don't hear anything after that. So I tell her after two days of not hearing from her at all, that it feels like she doesn't respect my time at all. She says something like "I can't believe you're getting mad over this. What do you want me to say even? Sorry I'm busy?" and that I should've checked in to see how it was going, that it wasn't her fault that I was stuck waiting.
Am I in the wrong here? If I say that we can probably meet and then it turns out I can't, I'd get back to the person immediately when I know. In my mind at least, anything else is just disrespectful. What do you all think?
SuperBanana
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She doesn't want to hang out with you. People do that when they don't have the nerve to flat out say "No" so they agree to plans and flake on them. Time to move on.
Yeah I suspected as much. In other news, people are assholes. She even asked me to meet one day (EDIT: She was actually the one who asked to meet on Tuesday now that I think about it) when I hadn't for a while, but I didn't have time that day. Whatever then.
peanutbutterlatte
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Whenever they say "I'll get back to you" instead of "Yeah sure, what days are you free?", it usually means she's trying to fob you off.
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I'll try this. Problem is I'm not really comfortable initiating physical contact in the first place because I don't want to make her feel uncomfortable... but I guess I'll just have to get over that.
This kind of advice just isn't helpful to someone like me, though, and I don't understand why people keep giving it. I want to be very clear here: I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. Telling me to just "do it when it feels right" is like sitting someone down in front of a piano for the first time ever, throwing some sheet music at them, and expecting them to be able to play it. You may be able to easily recognize when it "feels right" because you've had experience and practice. I haven't.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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It is helpful, you're overanalyzing it. Start with smaller physical contact and work up to it. Unless she clearly is uncomfortable and your still aggressive then you'll be absolutely fine. Again there's no exact time you have to do this. Initiate snail contact like holding hands, etc. If she send OK with it then choose a time you feel comfortable and go for it. You have to get this idea out of your head that women would be repulsed by you or you'll upset them by missing physical contact after going on a DATE with them. We're not telling you to go up when you first met her and just stick your hand down her pants to say Hi.
I'll give you an example of lady girl I dated. I think it reads out second date, held her hand for like 15 mind when we went over sharing the first date, occasionally held her hand on second date as we walked around. Second date as she was catching her bus we hugged goodbye, pulled back but was still holding her, said something along the lines "I had a lot of fun, I look forward to seeing you next week" leaned in for a kiss, she leaned in too and that was it. She blushed and jumped on her bus to go home. Could she had as easily pulled back and said she didn't feel comfortable? Absolutely. But at that point I wasn't being rude by attempting to kiss her so regardless of the outcome there was nothing for me to feel bad about, she just wouldn't have been ready which is fine.
Asking to kiss is definitely an acceptable workaround if you are bad at picking up the signals. I personally did that for the first three girls I dated (all this year).
If you want even more concrete than that, here's a cheesy way I came up with myself because I was so nervous to do it spontaneously. So first you tell her you want to play a game where each of you come up with three statements, two true and one false. It is then up to the other person to figure out which one is false - it's a fun game that I read about in this thread. If you're bold you might sneak in some raunchier statements too. Anyway, so when you've done playing the game, provided the moment is right i.e. you're somewhat alone and in a position to do it, you tell her you have one more statement, and she is just to say true or false. "The statement is: I want to kiss you right now", and no matter what she answers you just go for it.
It's very formulaic and very cheesy, but both the girls I've tried it on have loved it. Or so they told me. There is a chance she won't like it though, and as said above, just going it spontaneously is obviously better.
ZackieChan
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Hmm, well, if kissing a girl (and more) is what you desire, you need to take a small risk of physical contact. Otherwise, you will always wonder what could have been. Plus, if she's uncomfortable with you touching her shoulder or putting your arm around here, then maybe a romantic relationship isn't in the cards anyway?
Hmm. This is an iffy one. Asking to kiss is kind of unromantic. But then again, if the Cow really has a problem with gauging emotions, it may be the best option.
Be sure to get your consent form!
Royal_Phalanx
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I need to move back to my university town. It's relatively small and the bars/clubs are easy to get to, with tons of cute student chicks everywhere in them. Plus, no parents around to stop you from getting laid. I feel old already. Social anxiety be damned, I want to go back to university and do it right this time whilst I'm still young.
Kevin, I always do these cheesy things to initiate contact.
1) Ask her to compare hands. Line up your hands together.
2) Or tell her you know how to read the lines on her hand. Make some funny thing up. Can even set up a kiss if you want. "This line says you will be kissed in the near future."
Afterwards, holding their hand should be easier.
1) Ask her to compare hands. Line up your hands together.
2) Or tell her you know how to read the lines on her hand. Make some funny thing up. Can even set up a kiss if you want. "This line says you will be kissed in the near future."
Afterwards, holding their hand should be easier.
ZackieChan
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Oh yeah, I do the "compare hands" thing all the time. Being in Asia, every girl's hand is small compared to mine, so it's both funny and gives you a chance to initiate physical contact. Other things are if they are much shorter than you, you can touch the top of their head like you're measuring. If they're wearing cute or nice earrings or jewelry you can touch their ear or neck to point it out. If you are opening a door to go through you can put your hands on their hips to escort them through. If you're showing them something on your phone you can get close to them while doing it, putting your knee or leg against their leg and your shoulders/heads together.
There are so many ways to casually initiate physical contact. One thing I have done, which works with certain girls, is to explain how guys escalate physical while demonstrating it to them. It's a bit like a Penn & Teller routine, where you're exposing magic secrets while doing a more "meta" trick. If she's into you, it's a lot of good fun. If she's not, she's gonna hate it no matter what, so you might as well have some fun with it.
The other one I've had fun with is pointing out how if a woman likes you, she will play with her hair or do other things like that, assuming that she's done it. It makes her blush and deny that it's what she's feeling, but it's a good way to create a connection between the two of you.
I've recommended PUA materials in here before, and a lot of this stuff comes from that. If you're looking for more of a systematic approach to all of this stuff and ways to build confidence, PUA literature is full of it. Just go into it with your moral compass intact and disregard all the creepy stuff.
Kill Your Masters
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Little follow up, first of all thanks for the tips, the talk went quite well so I was sure everything is OK.
Except for the follow up plot twist. The now friends, former ex is apparently pissed I found someone new and basically unfriended and blocked me through all possible communication channels. Reason: didn't text for a few days since I'm with the new girlfriend...blocked.
Lesson learned, staying friends with ex immediately after the break up is a bad idea.
Hmm. This is an iffy one. Asking to kiss is kind of unromantic. But then again, if the Cow really has a problem with gauging emotions, it may be the best option.
Be sure to get your consent form!
Asking first can be kinda cute depending on your "appeal", worked out for me when I did it lol. She said she thought it was sweet. I'm kinda Michael Cera-y when it comes to dates so I guess I pull it off LOL.
I got real bad confidence issues when it comes to reading signs because of shit that happened in the past but I'm getting over it and I just play it off as funny/cute instead.
n64coder
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Keep in mind that we were all beginners at one time. Very helpful advice given by a bunch of people. Nobody likes to make mistakes but if you do, try to learn from them and don't let them happen again. I've made a bunch of mistakes on various dates but I got better the more I went out.
I still remember my first date where I didn't give her a goodnight kiss. Probably a handshake. I heard feedback from a common friend that she was very disappointed in not getting a kiss so I didn't make that mistake with future dates unless they obviously weren't going well.
Reavr
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Here's what I used to do until I got the sense for kiss timing, and maybe it'll work for you. Use some sort of inside joke as a segway.
For example, I was on my third or fourth date with a girl who'd joke with me about how she'd bring pepper spray to the first few dates. So, once we built up a comfort level with one another, I'd playfully put my arms up and say "don't shoot!" when we'd meet -- things like that which she'd get a kick out of. So, after we got to the tail-end of that particular date, we were about to hug and I just kind of stopped and said "so, if I kiss you, do you promise not to pepper spray my face?" with a smirk. In turn, she laughed and said "hmm, I think I can make an exception," and boom... kissed.
So, my advice to you is to find something along those lines between the two of you that you can use to unofficially ask for a kiss without making it awkward. And if you can't think of anything that resembles my example, just say something outlandish like "so, if I kiss you, you're not going to karate chop me in the throat, are you?" or something hilariously off-the-wall like that. Worked every time for me, and I'm sure it'll work for you.
Psychoward
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Girl I've been dating for 2 months (both college freshman) is really cute but she's got a Lotta fuccbois after her. Just to give some examples, there's one guy who said her "makeup was aesthetically pleasing to most people" and when he got drunk he said he "lub'd her" over text but claimed he had no feelings for her when asked about it. Another guy she made out with during the first week got really high one night and told everyone in the common room they slept together which never happened, then later that week they were at the same bar and he was asking her about me aND said that her having a boyfriend was "lame". Another one just texts her shit like "come over with me and don't fuck around with small dicked guys" (I kid you not). It's a small school and I don't blame her for running in to people especially since 2 are on her floor but the pure fuccboi-Ness is irritating as hell. Especially since she doesn't do much to actively stop it. It just bugs me that she never tells them explicitly to fuck off, especially the two more forward ones. I trust her and I appreciate her telling me all of this but still. I hang around one of my FWBS all the time but that was only for the first two weeks and it's only because we've become good friends and my girlfriend still gets pissy when im hanging out with that girl.
The thing is though me and that other girl already established that once one of us started sleeping with someone else we'd cut it off and we did and she isn't texting me weird things or hinting that we should hook up. I just see it as 2 completely different situations.
Is there anything I should do or just leave it, I've already told her my thoughts on all 3 of the guys but she still just remains passive about it and getting slightly annoyed at them instead of drawing a hard line in the sand. Also should I do anything about any of the guys or
The thing is though me and that other girl already established that once one of us started sleeping with someone else we'd cut it off and we did and she isn't texting me weird things or hinting that we should hook up. I just see it as 2 completely different situations.
Is there anything I should do or just leave it, I've already told her my thoughts on all 3 of the guys but she still just remains passive about it and getting slightly annoyed at them instead of drawing a hard line in the sand. Also should I do anything about any of the guys or
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Eh, I think I fall on her side. I think it's a hell of a lot weirder that you're downright time with a girl you actually were sleeping around with than just random losers hitting on her and her not literally yelling then to fuck off.
You could argue there's a lot of insecurity on both sides but I understand her issue a out more than yours.
AdventureRacing
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Hating on the lion king show, SMH.
No one starts with experience. Even the most experienced confident people all had to have their first kiss somewhere. People have given lots of tips but ultimately no matter how much advice we give you it will still come down to feeling the moment and just going for it. Start with something simple like holding hands and work up to it. If she's going for a 3rd date she clearly likes you so its not going to be awkward if you kiss her. Even if you just give her a kiss at the en's of the night, that's generally expected and then you don't have to try and find the exact right moment.
No one starts with experience. Even the most experienced confident people all had to have their first kiss somewhere. People have given lots of tips but ultimately no matter how much advice we give you it will still come down to feeling the moment and just going for it. Start with something simple like holding hands and work up to it. If she's going for a 3rd date she clearly likes you so its not going to be awkward if you kiss her. Even if you just give her a kiss at the en's of the night, that's generally expected and then you don't have to try and find the exact right moment.
I agree with this. I mean, people get hit on, it happens, people can be scummy and gross when hitting on others too. I would say her not flat out rejecting their advances is weird, but the tone of your post suggests that she *is* rejecting their advances, just not in an overly blunt/aggressive tone. These particular people seem cray so I don't blame her for not telling them to fuck off.
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