PlayStation 2 comes to PS4 official trailer
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DangerMouse
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Yup.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Same thing i said applies lol swap microsoft for Nintendo.
LimitedTimeGamer
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WOOOOOOOOOO TIME TO SPEND 30 on Dark Cloud and Rogue Galaxy again! AND ENJOY IT AS WELL!
The fact Nintendo charges for "upgrades" is still crappy, because those emulated titles just run on a newer, more capable version of an emulator, allowing several features like save state etc.
This doesn't justify an additional fee at all, they are just roms running by a different software.
This doesn't justify an additional fee at all, they are just roms running by a different software.
Benzychenz
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So barebone trophy lists with no plats?
That was the only reason I'd consider these over disk versions and they fucked it up.
That was the only reason I'd consider these over disk versions and they fucked it up.
.Regarding Platinum trophies:
It could definitely happen. The PS2 version is up on PS3, after all, so I could see them bringing a PS4 version over!
Maybe read the op?
Omegabalmung9
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Doesn't help that most of their main games already had the HD treatment.
Tizoc
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Bruh
I am hype for dat TM Black, dat war of the monsters DEM LEVEL 5 RPG CLASSICS.
I don't care if Rogue Galaxy is the poor man's FF12, I sadly could never push myself to playing it when I had a PS2, but I was a happy poor man cuz RG was a fun romp.
Even though Sand Storm was OP :V
But as I wrote
the Wii emulator in the Wii U does not offer any graphical or performance improvement
Does the Wii Emulator in the Wii U offer them? I don't own a Wii U mind you.
If it doesn't offer graphical or performance improvements, then Sony charging an extra $5 for some titles]/b] than usual is understandable.
If you don't know what graphical or performance improvement is like, go play SotC on PS2, then play it on PS3.
Keep in mind that not everybody has those games before, I own maybe only 1 of them and I MIGHT
MIGHT have gotten TM Black via a PS3 code from a retail copy.
You're only paying $10-15, not $20, no $40.
If that price is too gargantous for you, you're either cheap or you just want free games
Plus Valve doesn't sell PCs.
You're buying a digital game through SONY'S online service to play on SONY'S System/console.
Yeah but I'd still have to buy the Wii Discs, and I don't live in the US, and digital would be faster for me to get a game I'd want.
Uhu, yes?
Those features come from the EMULATOR. They didn't touch the game at ALL.
They also explained how trophy system works in their patent thing.
Res and fps bump come from the software, so yes, you are paying for the software, other things are from the operative system of PS4.
It's just like playing an emulator on PC and paying for the alt+tab feature or to record your play: the iso is still the same, features come from OS or the emulator used.
Really? I'm not so sure. To make a remaster you NEED to spend some money, in the case of FFX/X-2 they reworked the OST. At this point SE could just throw FFXII on PSN with trophy support, asking 20€ for it (yeah, I expect 20€ titles too): it will cost SE NOTHING and it will generate maximum profit.
Alex_Mexico
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One step closer to get Valkyrie Profile 2 playable on PS4, right guys?
Cool, I'd be in for that - RPGs tend to be the best candidates for uprezzing anyway.
DangerMouse
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Agreed.
Though maybe they let something they'd likely never remaster like Musashi 2, etc. on.
Front Mission 4 would be awesome...
Agent X
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As recently as six months ago, if someone would have said that Microsoft would enable Xbox One owners to play some of their previously purchased Xbox 360 games on the Xbox One at no additional cost, he probably would've been laughed out of the room.
If he then immediately followed that by predicting that Sony would charge PlayStation 4 owners a $10-$15 fee to play some of their previously purchased downloadable PS2 games on the PS4, he certainly would've been laughed out of the room.
How times have changed.
If he then immediately followed that by predicting that Sony would charge PlayStation 4 owners a $10-$15 fee to play some of their previously purchased downloadable PS2 games on the PS4, he certainly would've been laughed out of the room.
How times have changed.
Again no.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-hands-on-with-ps4-playstation2-emulation
You are not making sense here really.
All this stuff is the whole point.
eyeball_kid
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I don't need graphical enhancements or 1080p; just give me the gd original games at a decent price, and honor the money I already invested in PSN titles. $15 for PS2 titles that probably won't transfer to the PS5 is unacceptable.
I read the article and it talks about the emulator, so what should I see here?
Effect can be added with an emulator, EXACTLY what happens on Pc.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
You trying to prove my point with those no-AA stills?
I was excited for this until I saw the prices (that'll probably come to £11.99 or £12.99 over here which is just too much) and the launch line up is weak. I'll still buy the odd one but it's all a bit outwith impulse buy range.
Surprised to see San Andreas there given Rockstar just put out that terrible Android version on PS3 last week.
Surprised to see San Andreas there given Rockstar just put out that terrible Android version on PS3 last week.
Tizoc
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Yeah well others want them, and this is the reality of the situation atm: If you want a PS2 classic so you can play on your PS4, Sony are offering such titles as digitally for $10-$15.
Which is the same price range of PS2 releases on US PSN on the PS3.
But hey y'all can cry and puff up your cheeks, I'm droppin' $100 for dat Level 5 RPG goodness, TM Black and War of the monsters if it comes to it.
If you want to play PS2 classics in their original format, go buy a PS2 and the game you want.
Really have you even PLAYED a PS2 classic via the PS3 lately? Have you really?
But Sony are providing the use of said ISO on their system. They're the ones who call the shots, I see this as how Ninty handles discounts for their own titles on 3DS or Wii U. If NintyGAF gotta deal with that, I find what Sonty's doing to not be that much of a big deal.
Y'all just want ish for free
Really just wait til PSX '15, only reason you're still talking about this is because we're all waiting for PSX to start and we don't have anything else to do til then.
GarciaHotspur
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What about my Gamecube games on WiiU ? Thanks.
Walker_Boh
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God yes! I played the shit out of Summoner 2.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
This is getting pathetic
Augemitbutter
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hm i would buy valkyrie profile 2 or grandia 3. imagine if they decide to make limited print retail titles out of some titles, yummy.
i don't think i'd be able to resist.
i don't think i'd be able to resist.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Whoa...i never thought about that..hmm is that possible in a way?
DangerMouse
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Would buy both of these games.
Both of them were pretty gorgeous games at the time too.
Spoiler for Grandia 3:
Just wish the mom stayed with the group in Grandia 3, I liked the other characters but even after all this time I still remember she was the best character lol.
Augemitbutter
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should be. we also had remasters on disc from ps2 to ps3.
yes, best mom.
eyeball_kid
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Not 'crying' at all, I just refuse to pay those prices and believe it's in poor form to not give some credit/benefit to customers who already bought-in to PS2 titles. I guess we'll see what the market will bear on the prices they've set.
Yes. Though at the moment I'm playing Persona 3 FES (disc) on my OG PS3. I'd love to get rid of the PS3 and get back to one console in the living room, but looks like that won't be happening any time soon.
Customizable Controls
Save States (In addition to 'you left off here' states)
Miiverse Support (includes posting screens)
Native Off-TV Play (Wii mode offers it but you need a separate controller)
Upgrade fees are dependent on the system, but range from $1 to $2 after you do a Wii > Wii U transfer, and PRESUMABLY (this is me talking) it creates a flag for your account for those games, which is extremely important.
Now if you don't want to upgrade you can still go into Wii Mode and play them as is. But in Wii Mode they fixed the stretching issues which the Wii had with VC games, requiring you to un-stretch them on your TV.
Ingueferroque
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I should really stop getting bothered by the price drama.
autoduelist
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I don't disagree that it would be nice to have. I disagree with your use of the terms 'anti-consumer' and other hyperbole. Sony owe us nothing - we got what we paid for -- the games we bought, whether physical or digital, work on the platforms we bought them for. Anything they do above and beyond that is generosity on their part. The only 'greed' I see in this thread is people expecting Sony to do work for free and acting as if buying some game used for $5 or on flash sale for $5 entitles them to permanent BC forever on all new consoles. I'm sorry, I can't agree with that. Sure, I want it. But I'm not about to pretend I somehow 'deserve' it for buying the game for my ps2/ps3/vita, because I can still play it for where I bought it.
Please don't misunderstand - I own -tons- of PS2 games on disc and in digital classic form. I want them all on my PS4. I am surprised and sad Sony isn't making it cross platform. But that doesn't mean I think they must promise BC for all time on all devices, or am going to say 'fuck them' like you are.
Tizoc
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Then get them on sale you don't have to get them day 1. I'm getting them day 1 cuz I don't mind the price and because I don't own some of those titles, or rather most
That's just 1 game, what other games have you played? I have like 20 if not 30 PS2 games on my PS3 and let me tell you if I can get such visual upgrades and performance it'd make the experience of playing those games much better, AND WOUld gladly pay $5 for an upgrade.
If there is no upgrade offer, which we hardly know anything about atm, I'll just wait for a sale.
Tizoc
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That's the first game right? I got it on PS3 but only put an hour or two into it :X
Sorcerer Supreme
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So a bunch of streaming options that are built into the systems OS? Laughable.
Tizoc
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Hmm would the Wii U emulator do stuff like what Digital foundry noted about the star wars ps2 games?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-ps2-emulation-on-ps4-performance-analysis
Downloadable retail Wii games weren't a thing back on the Wii's time, the Wii U versions mark the first time they're officially available digitally. So it's not like it's ignoring previously bought versions of yours like PS4's PS2 emulation seems to be doing, because there weren't any before. The comparison also doesn't work because Wii games are the direct predecessor to the Wii U; where are the PS3 games available for $15-20 a piece in the PS4 store?
I'll give you lack of Gamecube retrocompatibility, but given that literally every single other home console of theirs is supported in the VC and then some (however measly) it's not a biggie.
How's Mark of Kri? Without nostalgia chimmimg in.
Never played it but it looked interesting from the trailer.
Can we stop the whinging for a bit and talk about the positives.
Framerate in particular is going to be much improved across the board and we will see a lot of titles at 60 fps. Hopefully that input lag that plagued PS2 classics on PS3 is gone.
Has anyone here played the Star Wars PS2 titles?
Just watched this DigitalFoundry video and it looks like there was a decent improvement in Bounty Hunter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_sOOVV7e8s
Framerate in particular is going to be much improved across the board and we will see a lot of titles at 60 fps. Hopefully that input lag that plagued PS2 classics on PS3 is gone.
Has anyone here played the Star Wars PS2 titles?
Just watched this DigitalFoundry video and it looks like there was a decent improvement in Bounty Hunter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_sOOVV7e8s