AtomnayaKlubnika
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You are engaging yourself in an already lost crusade, my friend.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens |OT| A New Hope
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You are engaging yourself in an already lost crusade, my friend.
Yeah, I know. I'm a dreamer. I chase rainbows.
Captin Quacker
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Rainbows filled with midichlorians
I have fairly low expectations myself. I like Star Wars a lot but the trailers haven't hyped me up as much as I thought they would. Not the biggest fan of Abrams either. I don't expect it to be bad but I doubt that it'll be memorable.
That's quite a leap you made there. Huge difference between being better than the prequels and beating the originals. Considering how terrible the prequels are the chances of TFA being on that level or somehow even worse are not high.
Some footage from the premiere last night. Skip the red carpet bullshit and go to 8:15 when everyone's in the theater.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePAg6y1xbmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePAg6y1xbmc
32 years to be exact. The same amount of time that passed from ROTJ to TFA is the same amount of time that has passed in real life.
shortsFortallPeople
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Well you gotta admit, the stuff Lucas did to the OT was egregious, especially the end of ROTJ where if you watch the films for the first time, in release order, you gotta wonder who the fuck that long haired ghost is.
the prequels suck but whatever, Lucas can make whatever films he wants. I just found the shit he did to the OT series to be real crappy and bothersome. Glad to have the despecialized editions to put under my pillow at night, my dreams great enhanced by there being in my home.
the prequels suck but whatever, Lucas can make whatever films he wants. I just found the shit he did to the OT series to be real crappy and bothersome. Glad to have the despecialized editions to put under my pillow at night, my dreams great enhanced by there being in my home.
You talking about throwing in hayden christensen as the force ghost, and the shots of the other planets celebrating?
I guess as reminders of the prequels it might sting a bit, but there nothing really wrong with those additions otherwise.
Digital-Hero
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I actually prefer the end of ROTJ in the Blu-ray release. No Yub Yub, I say yes yes.
(And I'm old enough to have seen the films in the 80s)
Eh, this might be more of a problem for people who already saw the movies. Purely anecdotal, but I showed my girlfriend the OT over the summer, and despite having never seen the prequels or even knowing who Hayden Christensen is, immediately 'got' that the Hayden ghost was young Anakin.
Naboo is the only prequel planet inserted in that montage. The Coruscant shot was included before Phantom even came out.
I'm talking about adding the same "NOOOO" from Revenge of the Sith into Jedi when Vader takes down the Emperor. It ruins the scene and makes almost no sense to be there.
JetBlackPanda
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the new end of ROTJ is much better. Minus Hayden.
shortsFortallPeople
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Yub Nub is fine, especially if I have to live with Jedi Rocks as part of that exchange
It also doesn't make much sense that he would be the ghost of himself from like 30 years ago from Luke's perspective. It just makes the whole ghost thing weird and the change itself is just Lucas making a change for the sake of making a change
More_Badass
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99% of the time, I have low expectations for any movie. Rare exceptions being stuff like Fury Road and the Raid movies
If I'm entertained, hey it's a good time at the movies. A good story, good characters, etc. are icing on the top
All I'm expecting out of TFA is a fun sci-fi action adventure
Oh I forgot about that Nooo. Yeah that made that part a little cheesy lol.
Oh I see.
Vader NOOOO in ROTJ is the thing that rustles my jimmies. For the actual final scene I actually prefer the new music over Yub Yub. I'm actually impartial to the Hayden change. On the one hand it makes no sense for his Force Ghost to look young again, but on the other hand the original actor was on screen as Anakin for a whole 90 seconds so I have no attachment to him.
I didn't mind most of it, to be honest. And even if I did, Despecialized Editions exist, plus those old prints they released some years back. Lots of alternatives, all of which didn't involve giving George Lucas money to boot, which should've made you guys really happy. There are reactions to minor changes you don't like in movies and there's reactions to, like, real tragedies. I wish the fanbase had that kind of perspective.
EDIT: I honestly liked Yub Yub best, but we got to play that song in band when I was in school, so that's more a personal thing.
EDIT: I honestly liked Yub Yub best, but we got to play that song in band when I was in school, so that's more a personal thing.
AtomnayaKlubnika
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My bad. Got the intel from my theatre TFA synopsis page.
Never had that problem and I had still the original Anakin Ghost.
JetBlackPanda
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yeah I agree that NOOOOO is like.. such a slap in the face.
José Mourinho
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The Phantom Menace came out when I was like 10 and I honestly struggle to believe that other kids around my age really hated that film and those which succeeded it. I personally loved them and my experience and memory is that my friends loved them too.
A few years back, had you of asked me, I'd of said that the OT was far superior. Then I watched all six Star Wars movies and... they're all kind of terrible. Don't get me wrong, I still love them, nostalgia will do that I suppose, and I still hold that the OT are the better films. I just don't think that the gulf in quality is anywhere near what people would have you believe.
Now I see my nephew watch Star Wars and of course there is no real distinction between the originals and the prequels, there are 6 Star Wars films all of which he enjoys.
Anyway...
Buzzing for this new one and I'm off to see the midnight showing tomorrow. Can't wait!
WadiumArcadium
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We had a thread about this. The better ending won.
Kölsch Bloot
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Never seen the original ending. Any way to see it online?
Eh to be fair that what he was before being burned up and in a state that he would have till he died. Isn't it that a force ghost can appear either with or without injury and scars? Either way still makes more sense to have Hayden than the original actor's non scar mode for consistent sake.
Also the new music was a big improvement heh.
Fine Ham Abounds
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I'm not sure what's more impressive, Lupita's hips or the fact that Gwendoline Christie makes Chewbacca look short
Is it even there anymore? I just watched the Bluray of Jedi a couple days ago and didn't hear it. And I was listening for it.
bananafactory
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So the review embargo is Wednesday at 2:01 am EST. That's in about 16 hours!
Fine Ham Abounds
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I'm still at the introductions part. I can't believe they introduced the droids ahead of Carrie Fisher. Not like she probably gives a shit.
VincentMatts
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Spoiler blocker, thought some of you might need this.
http://arstechnica.com/the-multiver...rce-awakens-spoilers-with-this-chrome-add-on/
http://arstechnica.com/the-multiver...rce-awakens-spoilers-with-this-chrome-add-on/
BFIB
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Crazy you didn't hear it. It's there, and it's horrible.
Just remove the Jabba scene in ANH, Jedi Rocks, the "nnnnnoooo" from Vader in ROTJ and add Sebastian Shaw back in as Anakins ghost and I'd be content with everything else.
Pai Pai Master
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Sweet. Thanks.
It's definitely there, watched the Blu-ray ROTJ last night.
WadiumArcadium
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I've always preferred Victory Celebration, but that was the version I first watched when I was a kid. I certainly don't hate Yub Nub.
AtomnayaKlubnika
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It's cute.
I'll get twice as hype in your place.
As for RT, I'm guessing that it's gonna hit 80%.
Soulscribe
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You guys there are too many Star Wars threads on the first page and it makes me flustered.
What's everyone's favorite Jar Jar quote?
What's everyone's favorite Jar Jar quote?
But its so silent. Its like the rebels are celebrating in silence, it just looks akward.
Victory Celebration in at least anthem enough, to let it appeared that overlapases all sound of the party.
Its like the throne room scene in ANH, silent it looks akward as shit, but with th big anthem its great and just works.
"Yourse super-heftig general!"
PezDispenser
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Holy shit they actually did that?
Gunslinger
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The new soundtrack for rotj is so much better than yub nub.
WadiumArcadium
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I'll make a thread for it.
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