As hard as it is you may need to just move on and show her that you don't need her to be happy. I by no means condone lying but making it seem like you have another date without flat out saying it will make you seem more desirable. If she's worth it and comes back to you then you can proceed from there, but you should make it clear if it gets to that point that you're not a player and you want to move forward with her.
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As hard as it is you may need to just move on and show her that you don't need her to be happy. I by no means condone lying but making it seem like you have another date without flat out saying it will make you seem more desirable. If she's worth it and comes back to you then you can proceed from there, but you should make it clear if it gets to that point that you're not a player and you want to move forward with her.
I need someone to smack me. Had a date that went so well on Saturday that I'm second guessing everything.
On Saturday, we met at a bar for a first date. Right off the bat, it's clear she's into me - she's got one hand on her drink, the other's playing with her hair. After the first drink we head to a quieter section of the bar and sit down in a booth. From there things escalate. I tell a joke, she puts her hand on my leg. In comparing watches, our hands touch for awhile. She called me handsome more than once. She puts her leg on my lap, and eventually we end up kissing. After 2.5 hours we go our separate ways, even though she did offer to give me a ride home (I had driven there myself).
Sounds wonderful, right? That's the problem! In my admittedly short dating career, I've never had a date go that well. Now I'm wondering "what's the catch?" Is she a gold digger? Something worse?
And then there's the fears of screwing up the texting meta-game. I was planning on texting every other day, since we already have the second date setup, but then she messaged me yesterday, and ugh....
I need to get out of my head for a bit...
On Saturday, we met at a bar for a first date. Right off the bat, it's clear she's into me - she's got one hand on her drink, the other's playing with her hair. After the first drink we head to a quieter section of the bar and sit down in a booth. From there things escalate. I tell a joke, she puts her hand on my leg. In comparing watches, our hands touch for awhile. She called me handsome more than once. She puts her leg on my lap, and eventually we end up kissing. After 2.5 hours we go our separate ways, even though she did offer to give me a ride home (I had driven there myself).
Sounds wonderful, right? That's the problem! In my admittedly short dating career, I've never had a date go that well. Now I'm wondering "what's the catch?" Is she a gold digger? Something worse?
And then there's the fears of screwing up the texting meta-game. I was planning on texting every other day, since we already have the second date setup, but then she messaged me yesterday, and ugh....
I need to get out of my head for a bit...
Shuggananas
Banned
You're overthinking it
So what if she's a gold digger she ain't gonna suck a car from your dick, you don't have to shower her with money on second date do you ?
So what if she's a gold digger she ain't gonna suck a car from your dick, you don't have to shower her with money on second date do you ?
ZackieChan
Member
Sometimes girls actually like you. It's weird the first time it happens, but you get used to it 
But always...trust but verify. Don't start buying gifts just yet.
But always...trust but verify. Don't start buying gifts just yet.
RedVladimir
Banned
Prepare for a Red® dose of cold hard truth: You are right to give up.
Long distance relationships don't work. Military life, especially long distance puts too big a strain on relationships. Absence makes the heart grown fonder only when there's an implicit assurance reunion will eventually take place. That, in practice, is why in some rare occasions some LDR can last over a year; its usually because both parties are building toward a permanent reunion and have frequent, even if virtual, contact. No relationship, especially with kids involved, is bound to last the necessary time for a meaningful experience under these conditions if the sighting of one of the parties at any given time is an educated guess at best.
Then there's the biological impulse of attraction. Only reason military relationships where the man is deployed work more often (or should I say, somewhat longer) than the other way around is because women aren't the visual creatures men are. You are simply better equipped to handle temptation. A relationship devoid of physical contact for months on a able-bodied, testosterone-filled, late-20s male is an unnatural level of expectation (despite what society and Disney would have you believe), and quite frankly, simply a recipe for failure.
So, my advice is focus on military. It's what you love, so do it. Get as much as possible from as you hope (and expect) to get. Get into a relationship only when you feel you are ready to greatly minimize (or outright eliminate) the long periods of no-contact.
That, or maybe look into what Advocatus Diaboli suggested, moving over to a different component. This wasn't my first advice as I am against someone leaving what they love, or what makes them them, for the sake of the benefits (albeit necessary) of being with someone else. But only do it if being with this person means more to you, than the activities you partake in. I know, usually you know when this guys is basically marriage material; material that requires time to be invested; time you have little of. So there's the catch-22.
RedVladimir
Banned
This is funny. I think what bothers you is the intimate realization that such a "shallow" girl wouldn't even reply to your contact--your personal preference notwithstanding. How dare she, right?
This post also presupposes that if a highly attractive girl, with a garbage profile, initiated contact with you, you would disengage because her profile is not up to par. So let's dispel the "mystery": Tinder is a looks-based hook-up, that's it. Not more, no less. Which means girls like that are using the app correctly by using their looks as bait.
Let's not try to elevate the app to a category it isn't in, in order to downplay the users that play by its inherent rules. Those that take Tinder more seriously than it is, often believe every word on female Tinder profiles, such as the classic "I'm looking for a serious relationship" (like our friend Jason's Ultimatum here), are bound to be disappointed because the profiles they peruse don't meet the standard set so by themselves. Sure, everyone has preferences, and while you may not marry said attractive duck face girl, let's not pretend you'd stop her if she strongly came on to you on the street because she doesn't happen to listen to Bach.
I'm confused. Have you had sex with this girl? If not, you certainly went on a date or two with this girl, but you are not "dating" her.
And I pointed to a study a couple of pages back. Men tend to overestimate the level of interest from women (because we are the pursuers). Do not use too seriously the perceived time it takes for a reply (or the reply itself) from her as measurement of her level of investment in you. As a general rule of thumb do NOT take what women tell you at face value, rather focus on their actions.
This was a monumental mistake. You are putting way to much pressure on her. What have YOU done for her that deserves her picking you out of a sea of pursuers? You took her out? Congrats, you're number 27th this year. You have to be That Guy that stands out.
Either way, as a rule of thumb, if you (and not her) have to ask this question first then:
This is yet another mistake. You are lying to yourself. Yet another rule for you: You can NOT be friends with women you are attracted to. It simply cannot be done.
Right now you are hanging around as a "friend" hoping she gives you the affection you long for. It will not come.
And I'm not saying you are in the so-called friendzone. You see, the friendzone doesn't exist, because everyone that is not sleeping with her is already in it.
So you dated, she enjoyed your company, but didn't like you enough to get romantically involved. That was all fair game. Girls are terrible at letting down a guy because they are afraid of confrontation so I don't blame you too much for her lack of directness.
However, you have to move on. There's nothing here for you. Do NOT try to be her friend, because you are not. Do NOT tell her to you should cease contact: simply do it. Now. Date other girls, live your life. Move on. If she ever contacts you with anything less than romantic interests, politely say you are not interested.
Interface23
Member
So hung out with high school girl. It was awesome whatever, she wants me to figure out a second date but now I'm getting in my head a bit because I've known her this long and ugh.
Just tell me I'm stupid and to make the second date.
Just tell me I'm stupid and to make the second date.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Go ghost son. Just stop all contact right now. For the future, never show up to a girl's house amd ask where you stand. And definitely do not talk about all this I wanna be yoir friend/I respect your opinion shit. Man fuck this noise, you want a girl friend not a friemd you wish was your gf. Can people stop lying to themselves amd these women? It'll make you feel better to just tell em straight you have no further interest when they say they dont want a relationship.
Sometimes girls actually like you. It's weird the first time it happens, but you get used to it
But always...trust but verify. Don't start buying gifts just yet.
Thanks, I know I'm overthinking it, that's just what I tend to do. And yeah, Definitely at the "it's weird the first time it happens" stage. Tonight was a good sign though.
She texted me saying she got free tickets to a college basketball game and wanted to know if I was interested. If not, she was willing to not go to the game (we had already made plans for dinner that day). I initially sent a text suggested she didn't seem that enthused (her choice of words), and after 90 minutes of no response, i sent another suggesting we go, saying "it's not like dinner is going extinct any time soon". And she agreed! *whew*. Solid B- response, methinks.
I need to step away from my phone for a little while now...
RedVladimir
Banned
Not sure I follow. What seems to be holding you back? Were you two friends that are now trying to date? Is there some messed up history there?
If she's asking for a seconds date, it clearly means she likes you (enough). Make the second date more of an activity, like rock climbing. Second date is prime time to get physical, if you haven't already. Go for it.
Try to provide more details for better advice.
yiepekaiyei
Banned
There's one thing I notice a lot talking to my friends or following threads like this. People who have struggles with dating, and I include myself in this, tends to think that these girls are their only chance of being romantically involved for the time being. If there's one thing I learned by going multiple ways is there's always someone who can be a match. So, if someone don't take you serious enough for you, there's a whole sea of other woman waiting for their right guy and that might be you. Or not. Don't give to much thought to it, just move along till you settle down with someone.
AnathemicOne
Banned
Hey all, it's been a couple of months since I've posted in this thread but I wanna pop in here again to talk about my current dating scenario here in contrast with my previous one.
So before I dated a girl and after a month we broke up for reasons, I don't really talk to her much anymore but I still enjoyed the experience as it helped with setting up my current dating game to which was a success today.
To begin, after I broke up with the girl I decided to continue working on myself as I was currently looking for a job at the time to which I've obtained. The job is part-time cart-pushing so in addition with a source of income I've been losing weight as well (20 pounds woot). But during the time of working on myself I've been talking with another girl whose a very attractive blonde that's really into anime. Like really into it being a bit socially awkward (even moreso than me) and doing cosplay but I found the former cute. Said talking went on for a 1 1/2 months and while I planned to ask her out during that time frame she was aware of the breakup I had earlier and I didn't want to make it seem she was the rebound girl.
She's also a big animal fan and talk of us going to the San Diego Zoo together came up and we both agreed to it. Well last week I did ask her out and used said Zoo as a date scenario; I was a bit hesitant on dropping $50 for a first date (is it normal to do this?) but thankfully she had a discount coupon and already an annual pass for herself so all I had to do was pay $25.
So today was the date at the zoo and afterwards I took her out to eat a late lunch at a thai place. The topic of my birthday tomorrow was brought up and she insisted on getting me a present to which I jokingly requested a kiss from her. Well turns out I did receive that kiss, twice, with her hands full on grasping my cheeks. I'm not sure if that's particularly normal but it came as total surprise to me and I enjoyed it haha.
But yeah I had a great first date and I have to say that previous experiences (failed in the end as they may be) really helped in prepping and carrying me through it. Also as for spending $50 on a first date I'm not sure is normal or not, may someone put their view on it? Not saying I regret my decision but would like to know for future prospects (if there are any).
So before I dated a girl and after a month we broke up for reasons, I don't really talk to her much anymore but I still enjoyed the experience as it helped with setting up my current dating game to which was a success today.
To begin, after I broke up with the girl I decided to continue working on myself as I was currently looking for a job at the time to which I've obtained. The job is part-time cart-pushing so in addition with a source of income I've been losing weight as well (20 pounds woot). But during the time of working on myself I've been talking with another girl whose a very attractive blonde that's really into anime. Like really into it being a bit socially awkward (even moreso than me) and doing cosplay but I found the former cute. Said talking went on for a 1 1/2 months and while I planned to ask her out during that time frame she was aware of the breakup I had earlier and I didn't want to make it seem she was the rebound girl.
She's also a big animal fan and talk of us going to the San Diego Zoo together came up and we both agreed to it. Well last week I did ask her out and used said Zoo as a date scenario; I was a bit hesitant on dropping $50 for a first date (is it normal to do this?) but thankfully she had a discount coupon and already an annual pass for herself so all I had to do was pay $25.
So today was the date at the zoo and afterwards I took her out to eat a late lunch at a thai place. The topic of my birthday tomorrow was brought up and she insisted on getting me a present to which I jokingly requested a kiss from her. Well turns out I did receive that kiss, twice, with her hands full on grasping my cheeks. I'm not sure if that's particularly normal but it came as total surprise to me and I enjoyed it haha.
But yeah I had a great first date and I have to say that previous experiences (failed in the end as they may be) really helped in prepping and carrying me through it. Also as for spending $50 on a first date I'm not sure is normal or not, may someone put their view on it? Not saying I regret my decision but would like to know for future prospects (if there are any).
ZackieChan
Member
You dated for 3 months and nothing romantic happened? That's a sure sign that you thought you were dating and she didn't. Drop her. Stop contacting.
Jesus. It's not a big deal. Do something you think is fun.
Interface23
Member
Like almost best friends in school. And yea, I know... nerves just get the best of me and I havent done this dating thing in 8 years.
Royal_Phalanx
Member
You got me, I wouldn't. Unattractive guys like me wouldn't have a chance in hell on Tinder anyway, though that is my low-self esteem talking. There's only so much improvement that you can do, good genes are important. I am perpetually stuck with a slightly chubby face and weak jawline, so yeah, I'm fucked (or unfucked, really). I don't expect or want to date super educated Bach-listeners anyway, I just wish more of their personality showed. Though this is Tinder, so I shouldn't have expected that.
I just got off talking on okcupid with a seemingly amazing lady who shares so many similar interests to me so I feel a lot better right now. Hoping the best with this one.
Very true, I’m just finding it hard to get over it all.
I’ve stated my intentions, so it’s up to her. That said I’m not expecting anything, but it does sound like she’s unsure of what she wants (hence the kiss at the end). Her best friend is really sympathetic with me according to my mate, and she even said she’s difficult at times.
I’m having a big one on NYE, so that should be pretty decent! One of my friends will be DJing, so I’ll be helping him out taking requests. It should be a pretty good way of meeting new people, so we’ll see! I’m looking forward to it.
Hopefully I can get my mind off of her soon, since it's driving me nuts. :/
I don't know why people never get this, but it can never be stressed enough. Don't be "friends" with people you want to be solely in a relationship in, because it's clear you want more and when (not if) they get a new SO, you're gonna be mad and bitter and upset.
$50 on the first date is a bit much, but you had fun, it seems. Congrats!
That's a bit... hostile... You kinda have to have a more positive outlook if you're trying to date, or it'll end up in failure most of the time. If you're feeling this shitty about yourself, perhaps you should work on that first. A relationship isn't meant to fix people.
Mediking
Member
Am.... I... Ummm... The only virgin in this thread? Never had a girlfriend either... I'm not awkward or anything. I can talk and flirt with women. I just get put in the friendzone alot. Just being super nice is who I am. I've tried changing to a more "dominant" guy but I felt so outta my skin. 21, by the way.
21, bwahahaha. You're practically a kid. Don't stress over it. It's still fine if you're 30. It's not a big deal (though it probably is in your head, I know).
What do mean, super nice? Are you bending over backwards for other people? Are you a pushover? If not, you're good to do. No need to force yourself to be someone you're not (though it is good to challenge yourself and get out of your comfort zone)
What do mean, super nice? Are you bending over backwards for other people? Are you a pushover? If not, you're good to do. No need to force yourself to be someone you're not (though it is good to challenge yourself and get out of your comfort zone)
ZackieChan
Member
But sex is pretty awesome, so that should be incentive in itself. Not some self or society-imposed schedule.
Krauser Kat
Member
yesterday was interesting.
Girl came over i had just finished making my fucking awesome chowder. She loved, but we both knew she had to leave in an hour and half to pick up her friend from the airport. I also have to pick up a friend from the airport at a later time.
We finish eating and have a good chat. Then i ask if she wants to watch something for the last 15 minutes shes there. My dog gets all up in her business, so i cant get too close. I find some funny snl skits i watched awhile back.
She leaves and i get a text, saying her friends flight is delayed. Another text, she is bummed we could of made out on the couch if she had checked before she left.
Made a new date for next monday... fuck yeah, that is in the bag.
My friends flight gets delayed. i end up saying that i cant pick her up because i have to get up at 545 am and a 130 am pick up would be brutal for me. she asks for me to pick up her house keys from her friend at work, because it will be closed by the time she gets home and she will just take an uber and a cab to my place and ill wake up an let her in.
When she lands, the uber cancels on her and the cab line is like an hour deep and i still have her keys. So i just say fuck it and get up and drive to airport (20-25 minutes) pick her up and bring her back to my place its like 220 am now. Im like you can have some wine to simmer down after the shit show that was the airport and im going to bed. A couple minutes later she get into bed in her underwear and i am up later than is should have been.
So now im drinking coffee before 8am for the first time in months.
Date tonight with a girl who i thought ghosted me but was just crazy busy with work, have slept together before, i dont know how its going to go. probably good, she wanted to do it.
Girl came over i had just finished making my fucking awesome chowder. She loved, but we both knew she had to leave in an hour and half to pick up her friend from the airport. I also have to pick up a friend from the airport at a later time.
We finish eating and have a good chat. Then i ask if she wants to watch something for the last 15 minutes shes there. My dog gets all up in her business, so i cant get too close. I find some funny snl skits i watched awhile back.
She leaves and i get a text, saying her friends flight is delayed. Another text, she is bummed we could of made out on the couch if she had checked before she left.
Made a new date for next monday... fuck yeah, that is in the bag.
My friends flight gets delayed. i end up saying that i cant pick her up because i have to get up at 545 am and a 130 am pick up would be brutal for me. she asks for me to pick up her house keys from her friend at work, because it will be closed by the time she gets home and she will just take an uber and a cab to my place and ill wake up an let her in.
When she lands, the uber cancels on her and the cab line is like an hour deep and i still have her keys. So i just say fuck it and get up and drive to airport (20-25 minutes) pick her up and bring her back to my place its like 220 am now. Im like you can have some wine to simmer down after the shit show that was the airport and im going to bed. A couple minutes later she get into bed in her underwear and i am up later than is should have been.
So now im drinking coffee before 8am for the first time in months.
Date tonight with a girl who i thought ghosted me but was just crazy busy with work, have slept together before, i dont know how its going to go. probably good, she wanted to do it.
Krauser Kat
Member
you are fine. My friend was 26 before he lost his cherry and now he is teaching in south korea acting the jolly the american giant. You will grow into yourself.
Not at all. No need to change yourself either, just be yourself and you'll find someone that likes you. Being more assertive (not aggressive or forceful) never really hurt anyone, though.
Royal_Phalanx
Member
I'm working on myself by lifting a couple of times a week and am seeing some gainz. I've taken up martial arts again. Sometimes I feel like I look OK, even cute, when I get compliments from girls, etc. but I have a lot of moments of self doubt/hatred. Extremely low self esteem is an intrinsic part of myself, not much I can do to rid myself of these thoughts even with therapy/antidepressants.
This is simply not true. I am attracted to pretty much every girl I am around, and we get along perfectly fine. If your postulate had been that you can't be friends with a girl you have feelings for, then sure I might be more inclined to agree.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Super nice is different from doormat. Being nice doesn't get you friendzoned. Friemdzone isn'y even a hing. You don't have to be friends with anyone the same way they don't have to date you
But like, being a virgin at 21 is not even somehing to worry bout. No one cares whether you have done it or haven't.
Well... changing the outside doesn't help if you don't change the inside. Nor is the bolded true, but honestly I'm not the one to help address that.
I believe he meant the latter. That's what I essentially agreed to, at least
I thought the same thing years ago.
The thing you need to realize is that it's not an overnight process. You aren't going to wake up one day and 'become confident' like many self-help or dating books would have you believe.
That being said, you should attempt to follow their advice. Continue going to the gym. Try to become more confident and build the habits of a confident person. Eventually the lifestyle will begin to shape you as a person. Dating more will help and raise your confidence but at the same time it will sometimes bring it to an all time low.
I've been working at this a while. It's a growing process, not an instant transformation. Believing it's possible is the first step, though.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I believe he meant the latter. That's what I essentially agreed to, at least
I mean I wouldn't advise the average person to do it but I don't even necessarily feel that is true either. I know lots of girls who if they were down I'd be in it in a flip but I'm not disillusioned to believe its gonna happen and I'm cool with it.
Once you reach a point where you do not put people on pedestals you can be friends with people you are really into and be perfectly cool. It becomes an issue when your happiness is literally attached to that person. If that's the case then yeah cut the rope. But for the purpose of this topic your advise usually is 99% accurate haha.
Omega Kirby
Member
Yup, your're all absolutely right. I fucked up but alas experience gained.
Mediking
Member
I bring up the nice guy thing because I've seen some guys with barely any personality pretty much get tons of girls. They aren't nice to the girls. They just say the right stuff and look a certain way then BAM! Another woman is in his arms. This happened alot in high school and a few times in college.
Maybe my taste in women is the problem... I'm not sure.
Maybe my taste in women is the problem... I'm not sure.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Gotdatmoney
Member
The first thing to accept about dating is all those guys that you think have no personality obviously have something that women find attractive. And the reality is you probably aren't as much of a personailty party as you think in comparison to those guys. If these conclusions you were drawing were all true you'd have fixed this a long time ago wouldn't you have?
The reality that people need to accept (I had to) is that you don't define the field so you need to stop putting your observations as truths. Those guys got girls you wanted because girls wanted them more and they had what you were lacking. Accept that because the excuses and the "I'ma nice guy" shit aint gonna win you any girls. Don't try to be a nice person, be yourself and let other people make their own conclusions.
Lots of self proclained nice guys aint actually all that nice. The ones that genuinely are dont get that girls dont want to date you just cause you are "nice"
Being (super) nice will not get you far in dating. Heck, this is true for life in general as well. Don't be the 'nice' guy. Not saying go out and be an asshole, but nice guys come off as needy.
And don't compare your situation to others. Those woman liked something about those guys. Be it looks, personality, etc.
Incendiary
Banned
I didn't lose my virginity until I was 21 and that was with my first girlfriend. It's no big deal. Just be yourself and eventually it'll happen, and definitely don't judge yourself based on who women are choosing, because women at 21 also barely have any idea what they want.
You should be a nice/good person, yes. But that should be your own moral compass, and not how you want others to perceive you.
But be a nice person, not a "nice guy". Don't shower girls with gifts, be their chauffeur, be their emotional sponge, and then feel entitled to their affection. Life isn't a Bioware RPG where you can make people fall in love with you by just entering enough affinity points via x number of gifts or acts.
There are plenty of genuinely nice guys who are just decent people (while still being assertive and not being a doormat, and who don't place girls on a pedestal) who are in healthy relationships.
Instead of comparing yourseld to people who have better success but who you find dull/undeserving of girls' interest, look into how you could improve yourself as a person. Not to impress or attract girls, but for yourself.
But be a nice person, not a "nice guy". Don't shower girls with gifts, be their chauffeur, be their emotional sponge, and then feel entitled to their affection. Life isn't a Bioware RPG where you can make people fall in love with you by just entering enough affinity points via x number of gifts or acts.
There are plenty of genuinely nice guys who are just decent people (while still being assertive and not being a doormat, and who don't place girls on a pedestal) who are in healthy relationships.
Instead of comparing yourseld to people who have better success but who you find dull/undeserving of girls' interest, look into how you could improve yourself as a person. Not to impress or attract girls, but for yourself.
Megalosaro
Banned
There is this girl in my apartment complex I've been checking out lately. I wanna chat her up, but whether I see r she is with her mom. How do I handle this?
Royal_Phalanx
Member
God damn there are some hotties in the gym. Want to talk to some of them but I feel like I can't, or I'll appear weird.
Clumsy. Sloppy. Bad. Fast.
Megalosaro
Banned
My first time I could barely stay erect because I was so nervous. Plus the confession wasnt or on right and was uncomfortable
Krauser Kat
Member
to be an actual nice guy. Do everything you think you want to do to get laid to all of your friends and dont expect anything in return.
My friends always know im available for a ride or a pick up. Hopefully they dont abuse it but i will gladly help them any day of the week male or female and not ask for anything in return. it feels good to give.
My friends always know im available for a ride or a pick up. Hopefully they dont abuse it but i will gladly help them any day of the week male or female and not ask for anything in return. it feels good to give.
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
This is spot on. There's a stark difference between being a kind person and being a "nice" one. "Nice" is the blandest, most neutral adjective there is. Don't aspire to be nice. Nice is, honestly, doing the bare minimum a functioning human being in society should do -- and then acting like you deserve some trophy for it.
That said, I've definitely been called a nice guy before. It's my personality, and it's honestly too late to change, nor would I want to do so. Besides, I'm able to directly and articulately communicate my own feelings and respect my own desires. Being self-aware and having self-respect is crucial here.
This is the important part here. When it comes to dating, "nice guys" will typically hide their true feelings, and act under the assumption that their kindness deserves to be rewarded with affection, which is manipulative. If you're being assertive, and open with your interest and desires, you're probably not a stereotypical nice guy.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
Well, it's over. I'm so heart broken, and it really hurts.
I shot a text this morning, basically a goodbye. She finally texted back saying how she felt physically suffocated on our last date. I must admit, and I think I didn't mention this before, but on the last date, I really was doing that to her. I scooted the bar stool really close to her, kept rubbing her back under her jacket. I did the same at another bar, and then we all know the story about her feeling confused about me wanting to sleep at her place. I was too lovey dovey, only because I was picking up where we left off on our second date.
Anyway, she said she thought about giving us another shot, but there was no desire. She thanked me for showing around Florida.
I apologized, told her I should've let things happened naturally, and it pained me that I would never see her again.
My life outside of dating already sucks with working retail and having no money with my useless degree, and finally something great happens in my life and it gets taken away just like that. I'm at work and I feel lethargic.
As I've said before, I've become completely useless on this battlefield, and I've made a mockery of myself.
It's been way too long since ive felt like this about another girl, and the thought of her with her arms around another guy hurts.
I shot a text this morning, basically a goodbye. She finally texted back saying how she felt physically suffocated on our last date. I must admit, and I think I didn't mention this before, but on the last date, I really was doing that to her. I scooted the bar stool really close to her, kept rubbing her back under her jacket. I did the same at another bar, and then we all know the story about her feeling confused about me wanting to sleep at her place. I was too lovey dovey, only because I was picking up where we left off on our second date.
Anyway, she said she thought about giving us another shot, but there was no desire. She thanked me for showing around Florida.
I apologized, told her I should've let things happened naturally, and it pained me that I would never see her again.
My life outside of dating already sucks with working retail and having no money with my useless degree, and finally something great happens in my life and it gets taken away just like that. I'm at work and I feel lethargic.
As I've said before, I've become completely useless on this battlefield, and I've made a mockery of myself.
It's been way too long since ive felt like this about another girl, and the thought of her with her arms around another guy hurts.
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