people driving or connected to the millions of older external speaker systems
Supply Chain Rumors Reaffirm iPhone 7 Will Not Have Headphone Jack
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people driving or connected to the millions of older external speaker systems
My jimmies are so fucking rustled right now.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
It's also worth noting for audiophiles that the switch to either lightning or USB C could be a boon as you would gain support for digital audio (both in and out) which isn't currently possible obviously with the 3.5mm jack.
enanogrande
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I'm not placing too much faith on supply chain rumors 9+ months out from release.
This rumor also doesn't account for the patent on a new type of headphim me jack that isn't 3.5 as well
teruterubozu
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But that's already included in the current iPhone. It's not exactly a switch, but a removal of an extra feature.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Let me refer you all to two posts from the previous thread.
Post 1 by LyleLanley
Post 2 by Sir Abacus (this I basically agree with)
Post 1 by LyleLanley
Post 2 by Sir Abacus (this I basically agree with)
ElMexiMerican
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If they took this out and it's not as thin as the Oppo R5, that would be an outrage. Absolutely no point to do this if it isn't that thin.
Lostconfused
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Let's not because your version of it is shit.
Veritigo_X
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Wireless headphones? Hahaha. Good luck apple.
When Apple removes controversial stuff like this they have never added back. There was outrage when they dropped the floppy, outrage wheat they add the disc drive and so on.
If the port is gone it is NEVER coming back. You'll be waiting a long long time.
Historically, that's almost never worked.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Wouldn't it be better if people were pulled away from wired by a superior wireless solution rather than pushed away from wired because maybe wireless will be better at an undetermined point in the future?
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Sure. But the millions who buy the next iPhone apparently wont agree with us.
LG V10 user here....love 320GB of storage on my phone thank you. Also 256GB sd card came with the phone when I bought it....I'll stick with my pleb'in tech
Yeah, but most people aren't audiophiles, use mid range equipment and digital audio is a net negative.
Cool, another reason not to buy an overpriced, under-functioning iOS device. Thanks Apple!
Realtalk: Motorola managed to do it on their budget Moto G line.
Realtalk: Motorola managed to do it on their budget Moto G line.
Shuggananas
Banned
Waterproof is cool but a gimmick for most people
My moto G 3rd gen is waterproof and has a jack. Don't tell me apple can't do it
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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The 21st Century, where you have to buy a replacement for something that worked fine because of reasons.
That jack has the same orientation problem as USB 2/3 ports.
Lightning connection is too flimsy.
It's wireless or stick with the headphone jack.
Lostconfused
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You don't need to lose the analog audio out to get that.
Because we all know rumors that happen months ahead of when the product comes out are always 100% true.
On the hypothetical side that this is true, don't like it. Glad I'm not planning on buying a new phone for a very long time. I like my current set of headphones that have served me well for years and don't really want to buy another set just for my new phone (That I may not even like as well).
I mean, I wasn't too upset with the lightning connecter, I like it a lot better than the old one and did so even when they came out with it. It is very improved in many ways so I'm glad to see them change over. It had an actual clear benefit. But the headset is such a universal connector that even Apple has endorsed for all its existance and I don't see the new ways being an improvement worth getting rid of the old. Certainly not having to have a connector that works for both my headphones and powering up the device. It's not worth it to make the phone thinner (not to mention even the ipod which is thinner can still support it). And bluetooth headsets have their own downfall that isn't going to get better, they need a battery charge so you either have to worry about recharging them or buying new batteries. Either way, you have to worry they might run out of battery. And some one mentioned also worry about connection issues as well (that would get irritating).
As for people who want to go to Android over this... that might work in the short term. But Apple has this tendency that what they do spreads (how many phones have removable batteries now or allow you to insert an SD card for storage <- I think there's a few but I think that number has gotten smaller).
On the hypothetical side that this is true, don't like it. Glad I'm not planning on buying a new phone for a very long time. I like my current set of headphones that have served me well for years and don't really want to buy another set just for my new phone (That I may not even like as well).
I mean, I wasn't too upset with the lightning connecter, I like it a lot better than the old one and did so even when they came out with it. It is very improved in many ways so I'm glad to see them change over. It had an actual clear benefit. But the headset is such a universal connector that even Apple has endorsed for all its existance and I don't see the new ways being an improvement worth getting rid of the old. Certainly not having to have a connector that works for both my headphones and powering up the device. It's not worth it to make the phone thinner (not to mention even the ipod which is thinner can still support it). And bluetooth headsets have their own downfall that isn't going to get better, they need a battery charge so you either have to worry about recharging them or buying new batteries. Either way, you have to worry they might run out of battery. And some one mentioned also worry about connection issues as well (that would get irritating).
As for people who want to go to Android over this... that might work in the short term. But Apple has this tendency that what they do spreads (how many phones have removable batteries now or allow you to insert an SD card for storage <- I think there's a few but I think that number has gotten smaller).
formasymphonic
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Got a 6S so this won't really affect me for a few years yet, but I can only forgive this if the Lightning headphones will be impressive or price/performance impressive or if they use the headphone jack space to give us a larger battery.
I don't believe any of those things will happen. (Would absolutely love to be proven wrong though).
I don't believe any of those things will happen. (Would absolutely love to be proven wrong though).
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
That's the catch 22.
Most people AREN'T audiophiles which is why Apple BT earpods wouldn't be a net negative audio wise to the average joe as the current wired ones they use are hardly an audiophile's wet dream.
Again I think dropping the port for thinness is kinda stupid.
That being said I find it funny audiophile's complaints about this when they should probably be using an external DAC already via the lightning port already anyways.
Simon Belmont
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Wow. This might actually turn me off of iPhones.
This seems like a really bad idea. The percentage of people using wired headphones/auxiliary-connections must far outweigh those using wireless, no? Why force most of your users to use a dongle?
This isn't like removing disc drives where people freaked out and then realized most of them never used computer disc drives anyway.
It's still unconfirmed, so we'll see, but I just think it's a bad idea.
Oh, and Bluetooth audio is trash.
This isn't like removing disc drives where people freaked out and then realized most of them never used computer disc drives anyway.
It's still unconfirmed, so we'll see, but I just think it's a bad idea.
Oh, and Bluetooth audio is trash.
Simon Belmont
Banned
No kidding. The receiver in my car can't pick my phone up when it's in my pocket. Can't wait for that to be my best option!
I think there's a pretty big gap between the big, mainstream headphone market using $100 dollar earbuds who'd notice a significant decrease over bluetooth and an actual audiophile who'd detect a DAC difference.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Wired headphones
Pros:
Cons:
Wireless audio
Pros:
Cons:
I'm all for a wireless future, but call me back when we have a proper, more convenient alternative to wired headphones like we did when we transitioned from physical media to digital one.
Pros:
- Plug and play
- Universally accepted
- A veritable mountain of high quality headphones available at all price ranges
- Huge variety of accesories, from dirty cheap to crazy expensive
- Connector can power external speakers
- Don't require batteries
- A good set of headphones will last forever
- A crummy set of headphones for an emergency can be obtained for literally nothing
Cons:
- Have wires
- Circuitry takes some space
Wireless audio
Pros:
- No wires
- More space may simplify engineering or allow for thinner devices
Cons:
- Not exactly plug and play
- Not universally accepted
- Legacy devices will need adaptors in the form of dongles, making them even less convenient and adding costs
- Audio quality is compromised
- Smaller variety of accesories and at higher prices
- No connector to power external speakers
- Require batteries, charging
- Battery degradation ensures you'll have to buy new headphones over time
- No such thing such as "free wireless headphones" at trains, planes etc.
I'm all for a wireless future, but call me back when we have a proper, more convenient alternative to wired headphones like we did when we transitioned from physical media to digital one.
I like using my ath ck10s without having to lug around a dac so this wouldn't do anything for me.
Do you think that Apple will include Bluetooth headphones with the phone? Or are they just not going to include any headphones with it?
Vanillalite
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The mainstream market is too busy using either Beats headphones or the included Earpods. Neither of which are the hallmark of audio quality.
travisbickle
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So are they going to pack in a lighting-connector earphone set? or blutooth? or drop earphones from the box?
Me. When I drive.
Norwegian_Imposter
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If this is true I will just switch to the Sony Xperia phones and I usually buy the newest iphone every time. Any idea when the next iphone will be announced?
It's basically Apple needing to something new to market and opening a new avenue. Other than making the iPhone like the 4/5 version, they've got nothing to get people talking. It's extreme but there is sod all to differentiate smartphones now. They get the headline, wireless headphone future invented by Apple tag even though it's not new and that thinner phone goal. What will they call it. Apple AirSound or something. The media will lap it up.
OP has really gone all in on the Apple kool-aid.
This is an absolutely awful decision, if true. And very transparently all abut pushing Apple's own proprietary solutions, as per usual. The future: when you spend more money, and with fewer options, for the same service as before.
This is an absolutely awful decision, if true. And very transparently all abut pushing Apple's own proprietary solutions, as per usual. The future: when you spend more money, and with fewer options, for the same service as before.
My V-moda Crossfade Wireless say otherwise.
Get the tech there first, and then switch people to it.
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