Marc Laidlaw has left Valve

EGM1966

Member
Valve made one of the best (actually the best) game of all time in Dota 2 and people are still saying they don't make games. If they never made another L4D, Portal or HL I wouldn't be too bothered.

As I don't play Dota but do play HL, DoD, Portal and L4D I would be bothered.

But nice to think only of yourself.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
It's not unreasonable to dislike the games they make but to outright say they don't make games is ridiculous. Both Dota 2 and CS:GO are fantastic and better than most games that come out today.
Dota 2 is really old now. It doesn't have that big of a team still working on it. CS:Go had its framework primarily laid by Hidden Path, Valve just stepped in to fix some of the mess.
 

Ikuu

Had his dog run over by Blizzard's CEO
Every Valve thread turns into people whining they don't make the games they want them to make.
 

gdt

Member
Dota 2 is really old now. It doesn't have that big of a team still working on it. CS:Go had its framework primarily laid by Hidden Path, Valve just stepped in to fix some of the mess.

That CSGO comment is unfair to Valves contribution to that game.
 
As I don't play Dota but do play HL, DoD, Portal and L4D I would be bothered.

But nice to think only of yourself.

I'm not thinking only of myself. Just saying that if it never happened it wouldn't bother me. I didn't say it shouldn't happen like some people seem to say about Dota. I hope it does come so that other people can enjoy it, I just don't give a shit myself.
 

jett

D-Member
Valve made one of the best (actually the best) game of all time in Dota 2 and people are still saying they don't make games. If they never made another L4D, Portal or HL I wouldn't be too bothered.

Some of us don't give two fucks about Dota.
 
Dota 2 is really old now. It doesn't have that big of a team still working on it. CS:Go had its framework primarily laid by Hidden Path, Valve just stepped in to fix some of the mess.

They are still games being ACTIVELY developed under the Valve banner. What part of this is difficult to comprehend?

Some of us don't give two fucks about Dota.

Some of us don't give two fucks about Half Life or L4D. What's your point?
 

Crono27

Member
They are still games being ACTIVELY developed under the Valve banner. What part of this is difficult to comprehend?



Some of us don't give two fucks about Half Life or L4D. What's your point?

listen buddy i know how you feel. Feels like some people just like to cause drama. I want a new dod... i'm still waiting for that one. Just give up no point sadly ]=
 

d00d3n

Member
Just a perspective on what the other Valve writers are seemingly working on

Chet Faliszek is doing PR for the Vive
Jay Pinkerton is doing comics
Erik Wolpaw is doing comics and soon Psychonauts 2
Ted Kosmatka left for Bungie
Steve Jaros was doing Dota the last time he talked about work

of course there's unannounced stuff, which might not see the light of day at all... but the point is they haven't exactly knocked it out of the park in these last years

A sad state of affairs. It must suck to be a Valve writer during one of their peer review purging sessions.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
That CSGO comment is unfair to Valves contribution to that game.
The game was a mess before and it's still a mess now, but at least Valve has guided it to a more respectable place where it can find a dedicated community. Projects like that do not have big teams assigned to them in the way Valve would for a new project of their own.
They are still games being ACTIVELY developed under the Valve banner. What part of this is difficult to comprehend?
The primary thrust of the development from these games is crowd sourced outside of Valve. They are set up for the community to support the game with new content while skeleton crews can continue to guide balance and implement new features. My point was that these projects do not R8 high enough to really demand the full development attention of Valve. Unless everyone there is just wasting time on Vive there is a lot of unaccounted for development power within Valve.
 
The game was a mess before and it's still a mess now, but at least Valve has guided it to a more respectable place where it can find a dedicated community. Projects like that do not have big teams assigned to them in the way Valve would for a new project of their own.

I still don't understand what team size has to do with anything. People say that Valve don't make games. They are actively developing at least 3 games that we know of. So they make games.
 

Crono27

Member
The game was a mess before and it's still a mess now, but at least Valve has guided it to a more respectable place where it can find a dedicated community. Projects like that do not have big teams assigned to them in the way Valve would for a new project of their own.

really.. besides 66 tick servers in mm. And some minor stuff how is it a mess?
 
They are still games being ACTIVELY developed under the Valve banner. What part of this is difficult to comprehend?

Valve is notorious for scrapping in-development projects. Until those actively developed games don't get announced they're irrevelant for the customer. They judging them on their latest shipped project not potential.

edit: oh nvm you meant the 3 current games, read it as "there are" instead of "they are"
 

Guess Who

Banned
Oh good, another reason for me to not give a damn about anything Valve's working on.

What a shithouse of a company they've become.
 

Drencrom

Member
At least I can finally say I'm pretty much done with Valve as a game developer.

It's blatantly obvious the last couple of years that they have changed as a company for good and they don't care about the series that put them on the map in the first place and the kind of game experiences their original fans wants.

It is understandable though. There's just more money in handling their Steam platform and microtransactions in their online games etc, but it's still saddening.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
What's wrong with it just now?
I don't really know that this is what the thread is about. Client stability. Muddy visual design that betrays visibility, leaving the game best played at low settings. Teetering game balance and uncomfortable/bizarre map pooling/matchmaking options. Extreme pervasiveness of people hacking the game. Patches coming out that break the game and allow players to cheat. It's not really that important, but CS:Go doesn't really feel like a Valve product outside of the gross monetization stuff tacked on.
 

Madness

Member
Every year that goes by, the less valuable the IP actually becomes. Half-Life 3 being announced will still send shockwaves through the community when it's announced, but the longer they wait, the more gamers there are growing up who've never played the series, and the more gamers there are who have less time to play. 10-15 years is a long time in terms of IP's and fan base retention.

Hope Marc enjoys retirement. Sometimes you just have to call it quits. Almost 19 years with the company and was nicknamed old man laidlaw then.
 

nekkid

It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Image cuts off after What does this mean for Half-Life?

Fuckers.

Edit:
Ignore me and my shitty phone.
 
Every Valve thread turns into people whining they don't make the games they want them to make.

Can you blame them?

I'm kinda glad I have no affinity for Valve's more "traditional" games apart from Portal.
As a fan, it must be pretty depressing.
 

Qassim

Member
Dota 2 is really old now. It doesn't have that big of a team still working on it. CS:Go had its framework primarily laid by Hidden Path, Valve just stepped in to fix some of the mess.

There have been hundreds of updates to each game. With CSGO especially, it's ridiculous to suggest they 'just' stepped in to fix 'some' of the mess. There have been over 200 hundred updates to the game since launch handled by Valve, the game is a significantly different (and massively better) game than then.
 
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ZombieFred

Unconfirmed Member
HALF LIFE 3 DECONFIRMED!!!!!!

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:'(
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Guy is about 56, FYI.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
There have been hundreds of updates to each game. With CSGO especially, it's ridiculous to suggest they 'just' stepped in to fix 'some' of the mess. There have been over 200 hundred updates to the game since launch handled by Valve, the game is a significantly different (and massively better) game than then.
These kind of tweaks do not take a full development team. Particularly when the QA work is so shoddy it should be a sign that a small team is working to keep updating the game. That's all I was saying.
 

Theonik

Member
If I was a multi-millionaire I'd love to contract some neuro-biologists to figure out people's compulsion to think Half Life 3 was or is happening.

It transcends simple psychology and I'm baffled.
People said the same for Shenmue 3 and yet...
 
This is what's wrong with Valve, as it currently stands they are nothing more than Steam with a few divisions that update existing software. The entire reason I started PC gaming was to play Valve games but the honeymoon period ended pretty soon. Valve are not the face of PC gaming, they have a platform that hosts everything but they'll never be the Nintendo, Sony or even Microsoft of the PC industry.

I expect better things from this company and it's very frustrating. I want more amazing games like Half Life and Portal but as the years go by the only things we get are updates for DOTA, TF2 and CS GO. This isn't the same company that drew me in to PC gaming, this is a company sitting on cashcows.
 
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ZombieFred

Unconfirmed Member
To be honest if there's was to ever be a Half Life 3 I am sure Marc Laidlaw has already written a lot of stuff for its future with the amount of time he was there and that always being his baby. It is a shame if he has left but the man deserves to retire and live the life he wants to do. He will always have major respect from me for the Half Life series.
 
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