PlayStation 4 hits 35.9 million sold through to end users

You heard it here first, folks. FF7R won't hit 1 million lifetime sales

Any one brave enough to take e-gamer on his bet?

I'm talking about specific games quoted. Not FF7 remake. It's a big Japanese game from a big publisher. Or do you think Nier has the same budget???
 
Microsoft invited Tim Dog to E3 last year, and all the big suits took pictures with him and everything..Tim Dog wrote a blog post about the whole experience, about it being like the greatest thing that ever happened in his life...It was pretty hilarious, and sad...


This is the same Tim Dog who refers to NEOGaf users as "gaffots"...and they invite him to E3..


Between "gaffots" and "rice eaters" , these are toxic individuals and the type I would want to publicly distance myself from...not embrace them..

I don't know, I dont take issue with the term 'rice eater' I mean, who here hasn't eaten some rice...unless there is a more nefarious meaning to the term
 
You heard it here first, folks. FF7R won't hit 1 million lifetime sales

Any one brave enough to take e-gamer on his bet?

Come on, son.

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I don't know, I dont take issue with the term 'rice eater' I mean, who here hasn't eaten some rice...unless there is a more nefarious meaning to the term
I haven't been following this discussion in the thread but I can presume rice eater is supposed to be derogatory towards Asians because we have so many dishes with rice and eat a lot of rice. Including myself. Speaking on behalf of south Asians as well.
 
SF 5 has moneyhat. Doesn't count. All the others are low budget games that I could bet won't be million sellers...
Persona 5 and FF7R are low budget games that won't sell over a million WW?

/smh

street fighter 5 wasn't moneyhatting. my understanding is that capcom was in a tough financial situation at the time and sony decided to help fund the development of the new game

rotr was moneyhatting.
As far as we know, this is correct.
 
I haven't been following this discussion in the thread but I can presume rice eater is supposed to be derogatory towards Asians because we have so many dishes with rice and eat a lot of rice. Including myself. Speaking on behalf of south Asians as well.

So The Artisan is The Asian.
Riceless.
 
street fighter 5 wasn't moneyhatting. my understanding is that capcom was in a tough financial situation at the time and sony decided to help fund the development of the new game

rotr was moneyhatting.

In my understanding who didn't have de budget was Ono, not capcom. But I'm not get in to this again. SF V is the second big Japanese game to hit this Gen so far.
 
I'm talking about specific games quoted. Not FF7 remake.

Uh huh
You cannot be serious. Basically the only Japanese games releasing in XB1 will be FFXV and KH3. So are you saying that every single other Japanese game (Ni-Oh, Persona 5, FFVII Remake, Street Fighter 5 etc) are somehow not "big games" made by "big publishers?" If so, that's just absurd and you should be ashamed.

SF 5 has moneyhat. Doesn't count. All the others are low budget games that I could bet won't be million sellers...


Come on, son.

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What?
 
FF7 remake is timed exclusive if I can remember. Persona is a low budget series. How much they sell each version?

Persons 4 Golden (a PS Vita only rerelease of Persona 4) shipped 700,000 copies by the end of 2013. That's physical copies only on a platform known for very high digital splits. So the Vita rerelease alone is well over 1 million sold. But by all means please do continue informing us about how they are all small games. It sure is fascinating watching you trip over your own tongue.
 
Persona 5 will do over a million easy it is a growing IP .
Also FFVII R being time exclusive don't mean it coming to Xbox.
It could mean PC or NX.

If Atlus doesn't mess up and from what we've seen it don't seems like they did Persona 5 could be huge for them. Like easliy best selling game by a wide margin.
 
There is a difference between big Japanese publishers and big Japanese games. Even MGS is on Xbox this Gen and it sold worse than last Gen. There's also a declining on jap games and that's why they are low budget and almost all of them won't be launching on the west.

lol, we live in a world where heavily licensed games like J-Star Victory vs got localized, even visual novels get released on Steam now. And this "low budget" is based on what? It's very simple that Xbone audiences don't give a shit about Japanese games, they sold very well on PS and Steam. And you shouldn't type "JAP", only JP or Japanese
 
As far as we know, this is correct.
yep. so that's that.
So The Artisan is The Asian.
Riceless.
lol, good one. I thought I might've said somewhere on gaf what my heritage was.
In my understanding who didn't have de budget was Ono, not capcom. But I'm not get in to this again. SF V is the second big Japanese game to hit this Gen so far.
either way, there is no denying that they were having financial troubles and it's thanks to sony that the development of the game came well underway.
Persona 5 will do over a million easy it is a growing IP .
Also FFVII R being time exclusive don't mean it coming to Xbox.
It could mean PC or NX.
I think it was stated that ffs7r might be a another sf5 case in that sony is helping to fund it, so it may only be Ps4/PC.
 
Persons 4 Golden (a PS Vita only rerelease of Persona 4) shipped 700,000 copies by the end of 2013. That's physical copies only on a platform known for very high digital splits. So the Vita rerelease alone is well over 1 million sold. But by all means please do continue informing us about how they are all small games. It sure is fascinating watching you trip over your own tongue.

I was thinking about FF7 remaster that someone put in the middle of discussion, tbh. I'll edit the post, is that ok to you?
 
I was thinking about FF7 remaster that someone put in the middle of discussion, tbh. I'll edit the post, is that ok to you?

Uhh no you said

FF7 remake is timed exclusive if I can remember. Persona is a low budget series. How much they sell each version?

SF 5 has moneyhat. Doesn't count. All the others are low budget games that I could bet won't be million sellers...


Funny how suddenly your imaginary scenario shifts the second actual facts are brought into the equation. At least own up to your own stupidity.

Oh and you might want to actually make up your mind about how you want to spin your comments because this shit
I'm talking about specific games quoted. Not FF7 remake.
is pretty funny given that you just told me no I was talking about FF7 not Persona 5.
 
It's possible that Sony will even drop the price of the PS4 to $249 during this year's holidays, but as I said, there are too many unknown variables at this point.

If they want to sell as big as Ps2 they need to keep cutting until 199e and Slim so sales will explode even further.

This Console will sell insane numbers
 
It's possible that Sony will even drop the price of the PS4 to $249 during this year's holidays, but as I said, there are too many unknown variables at this point.

they won't do that though, too many profits on there. But they will bundle it with a game or two for $299.
 
Aren't COD fan base migrating to ps4? You should not be so sure about popularity on the platforms. It's possible that "dudebros shooter fans" won't be buying either and sales of Japanese games like those in the west may be lower than last Gen...

This makes no fucking sense. COD fan base migrating to ps4 doesn't mean they're replacing the fans of Japanese games.

And you're so out of your depth if you think Ni-Oh is low budget.
 
that would be dope. this would also mean at some point this year they'd cut the price again by $50. maybe around Uc4
Hey, man, in a way, I was talking out of my ass, just listing a possibility. I'm not saying that Sony will drop the price to $249 this holiday season, but it's definitely possible. So remember, a possibility, not my prediction yet. ;)

they won't do that though, too many profits on there. But they will bundle it with a game or two for $299.
It's not my prediction, just listing out one of the many unknown possibilities.
 
Most Japanese publishers are skipping Xbox One because there isn't a fanbase for most of their games on that platform.



Agreed; The only reason why Xbox One is getting FF XV & KH III, is because that those games were announced before the next gen consoles were released & because that Square-Enix thought that the Xbox One would be as popular as the 360.

Unfortunately, it didn't turn out to be the case.

The Xbone is actually doing better than the 360 at the same point in its life cycle though. The reason why it's getting FFXV and Kingdom Hearts 3 is because Square Enix didn't know that the market for JRPGs on that system would be borderline non-existent, and they can't back out now and make the games PS4 exclusive because doing so would lead to tons of negative press and a sour relationship with Microsoft. But yeah, those two games, they're probably going to flop quite magnificently on the Xbox One, and I'm sure the SE execs would love to turn back the clocks right about now.
 
The Xbone is actually doing better than the 360 at the same point in its life cycle though. The reason why it's getting FFXV and Kingdom Hearts 3 is because Square Enix didn't know that the market for JRPGs on that system would be borderline non-existent, and they can't back out now and make the games PS4 exclusive because doing so would lead to tons of negative press and a sour relationship with Microsoft. But yeah, those two games, they're probably going to flop quite magnificently on the Xbox One, and I'm sure the SE execs would love to turn back the clocks right about now.

Well there already was Type-0 HD so there is some base for JRPG market on Xbone :P.
 
Persona 5 will do over a million easy it is a growing IP .
Also FFVII R being time exclusive don't mean it coming to Xbox.
It could mean PC or NX.

E-gamer awoke the dragon and was blown away by the flurry of uppercuts.
It's funny when you take into account that one Square-Enix survey about Persona 5.

I don't think the most delusional fanboy could argue that FF15 is low budget and yet even that game knows not to underestimate Persona 5.
 
The Xbone is actually doing better than the 360 at the same point in its life cycle though. The reason why it's getting FFXV and Kingdom Hearts 3 is because Square Enix didn't know that the market for JRPGs on that system would be borderline non-existent, and they can't back out now and make the games PS4 exclusive because doing so would lead to tons of negative press and a sour relationship with Microsoft. But yeah, those two games, they're probably going to flop quite magnificently on the Xbox One, and I'm sure the SE execs would love to turn back the clocks right about now.
Thats their fault for making such a public decision so early - perhaps pre-launch it seemed a sensible idea but surely just announcing support for the then next gen without platform confirmation would have been just as suitable.

Must be tough to throw money at something knowing it wont ever make a profit...

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It's funny when you take into account that one Square-Enix survey about Persona 5.

I don't think the most delusional fanboy could argue that FF15 is low budget and yet even that game knows not to underestimate Persona 5.

Shhhh! He was just blown away by the presence of facts and now you want to bring common sense into the equation too? Have you no shame?!? Let him wallow in ignominious solitude.

Like a Dino sore

Et tu Snyder? Et tu?

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Thats their fault for making such a public decision so early - perhaps pre-launch it seemed a sensible idea but surely just announcing support for the then next gen without platform confirmation would have been just as suitable.

Must be tough to throw money at something knowing it wont ever make a profit...

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You're right there. Somebody needs to sit these SE higher-ups down and tell them to stop announcing their games so fucking early. Just stop. Didn't they essentially announce Kingdom Hearts 3 the moment it had begun development or soon after? It's ridiculous. So much unnecessary pressure the teams are put under just because SE want to please the shareholders as soon as humanly possible.
 
FF7 remake is timed exclusive if I can remember. Persona is a low budget series. How much they sell each version?

Persona 4 Golden, a port of a 4 year old (at the time) PS2 game on the bomba-tastic Vita sold over 700k units worldwide. You honestly don't think Persona 5 won't crack 1m ww on PS4/PS3?

I can't breathe.
 
No no no listen here Im the one getting beaten on and dying obviously. Hence the "et tu" reference.
Ah, I see, my bad. That would make a lot more sense. At least you still have the balls to explain it. :P

I'm bored, I don't have access to my PS4 right now.
 
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