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[Dewoh]

Your JS9000 might've been a bad one. It shouldn't have any trailing in motion, and it shouldn't look washed out either. I had an EG910/9100, and while it obviously had great black levels, everything else wasn't up to par at all IMO. Haven't owned the EF9500, though.

I've had both the EF9500, and now have the JS9500. Motion is about the same on both.

Make no mistake, the OLED had a better picture. Duh. But once you get the JS9500 calibrated to your liking, it isn't as night/day as you'd think.

But man, I can't wait to get an OLED with low input lag.

 

[Yaari]

Same. But I am not sure as to how much longer I am willing to wait for it.I might just go for the JS9500 or that new one that didn't show, if it turns out to have some interesting upgrades.

 

[Dewoh]

Same. But I am not sure as to how much longer I am willing to wait for it.I might just go for the JS9500 or that new one that didn't show, if it turns out to have some interesting upgrades.

The JS9500 is one hell of a TV. I'm real happy with it. I don't have the patience or will power to go without a TV until the OLED situation (or even the new 2016 models) sorts itself out. I got the JS9500 about a month ago, and have made peace that in 5 years (maybe sooner?) I'll upgrade to an absolute beauty of a TV.

But I wish I'd never sampled the beauty that is OLED. I still find myself holding my Note 5 (with its OLED screen) up on occasion and comparing it to my JS9500 when things are black, and just thinking "man, I wish things were blacker". If I'd never tried it, blooming aside, I'd be perfectly happy with this JS.

 

[Jigolo]

OLED is top dog but you can't go wrong with either the JS9000/500

 

[Bane]

I'm looking to get a new tv this year but am unclear on something coming out of CES, the Ultra HD Premium label. Is it just an official label for what 4K sets already have or something new that sets even from just last year will lack. From what I gather it looks like the latter, which is really shitty for those that just bought a tv and something I should wait for.

 

[LilJoka]

I'm looking to get a new tv this year but am unclear on something coming out of CES, the Ultra HD Premium label. Is it just an official label for what 4K sets already have or something new that sets even from just last year will lack. From what I gather it looks like the latter, which is really shitty for those that just bought a tv and something I should wait for.

Latter, it is a standard they have all agreed too for new OLED TVs.

 

[julrik]

Latter, it is a standard they have all agreed too for new OLED TVs.

Wrong. It's a standard for all 4k + HDR TV's - not just OLED.

You'll still be able to watch HDR on some sets from last year, but the Premium models will offer deeper blacks or a brighter picture, or both.

 

[Bane]

Wrong. It's a standard for all 4k + HDR TV's - not just OLED.

You'll still be able to watch HDR on some sets from last year, but the Premium models will offer deeper blacks or a brighter picture, or both.

So would I be really screwing myself if I purchased something from last year when stores start trying to move them out or should I just get a 2016 model? Is it yet known if the difference will be very much?

 

[julrik]

First of all, you'll need a 10-bit panel to display HDR.

Some 2015 models have 10-bit panels, e.g. the LG 4K OLED range and Samsung SUHD range.

The Premium sticker for 2016 models is an easy way for the consumer to tell that it qualifies for the HDR standard, which they now seem to have figured out. I don't remember the exact figures right now, but essentially it's about how bright a panel can get, and how low the blacks are. If the blacks are low enough, and the brightness can get high enough, it's a Premium model.

That doesn't mean that the 2015 models with 10-bit panels can't display HDR, though. E.g. the Samsung models doesn't "qualify" because they can "only" reach 600-700 nits IIRC, while the Premium standards "requires" 1000 nits, UNLESS the display can display 0,005 cd/m2 blacks or less (which are basically just OLEDs). If the set can display less than 0,005 cd/m2 blacks, the brightness requirement, which was a 1000 nits, now comes down to 500 or 600 IIRC. It's all about the contrast of the display basically.

So to conclude, all 10-bit panels will be able to display HDR, even 2015 models, but the Premium sticker just shows that the particular TV ticks all the boxes, and will be able to have more contrast/punch in the picture than "non-Premium" sets.

Pretty sure that there will be 10-bit models this year as well without the Premium sticker, but they too will be able to display HDR.

Hope that helps.

Edit: To answer your question. No, you wouldn't screw yourself over if you bought e.g. a 2015 4k OLED or Samsung 9-series, but they won't get as bright as some models releasing in 2016. Say you have a HDR clip, with a dark room and an explosion. The highlights on the screen, in this example; the explosion, will get brighter than non-Premium sets, because the Premium sets are able to display brighter highlights while keeping the rest dark.

I'm not really bothered about that tbh. Ordered a JS9000 (10-bit) just a couple of days ago.

 

[Bane]

*snip*

Yeah that's a great help, thank you. The model I was looking at was a Samsung UHD so I'll take a look at SUHDs, I've not been thrilled by curved screens thus far but maybe it's time to reconsider.

 

[Pancakes R Us]

I recently bought the BenQ RL2755HM monitor for my nephew off the back of a recommendation in this thread. It was to hook up his PS4 to. It's going well so far, looks good in motion.

I think I read somewhere - maybe here - that these monitors are no good for Wii U for some reason or other. Is this correct, and if so, can someone please elaborate why?

 

[univariate]

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but I'm interested in buying a quality projector (for movies and games) with a budget of ~$2000. Any recommendations?

 

[Dewoh]

Rumor is that Samsung's new FALD has 500 zones, compared to the 150 in the JS9500.

Well, shit. Wish we had an idea s to when it was supposed to be released, and at what price.

 

[Pagusas]

Rumor is that Samsung's new FALD has 500 zones, compared to the 150 in the JS9500.

Well, shit. Wish we had an idea s to when it was supposed to be released, and at what price.

It'll most likely launch as a replacment for the 9500, coming in at their MSRP currently with 2k discounts form the big retailers for the 78" line that they push every 45 days.

So expect to pay 9k-10k for the 78" and $4200ish for the 65".

 

[MrJames]

The KS9800 is 88" only. The KS9700 are 78" and 65". I believe those are also FALD but probably fewer zones.

Also, the X940D was a no-show at CES but at least Sony announced it. Strange that both seem to be holding back their FALD models.

 

[dw.og]

Hey guys, need some advice. About a month ago I upgraded from a 40" to a 55" TV. After realizing that the 55" was clearly too small I exchanged it for a 60". Well now I'm beginning to think that the 60" is still not quite the ideal size for my space.

I'm wondering though whether it's worth the trouble of boxing up the TV and hauling it to the store yet again. Also, I would probably need to adjust my mount, as in raise it slightly, in order to keep a larger TV at the same height as my current TV. Part of me thinks too that if I exchange my TV I reintroduce the possibility of encountering a defect, however small. The 60" I have now works great.

Does IQ at 1080p begin to look less sharp at larger sizes?

Thoughts?

 

[Dewoh]

You can never go too big. Ever.

Get a 75 incher in there!

 

[Jigolo]

77" LG G6

...


I'll buy it for you personally if I win the Powerball

 

[Pagusas]

Hey guys, need some advice. About a month ago I upgraded from a 40" to a 55" TV. After realizing that the 55" was clearly too small I exchanged it for a 60". Well now I'm beginning to think that the 60" is still not quite the ideal size for my space.

I'm wondering though whether it's worth the trouble of boxing up the TV and hauling it to the store yet again. Also, I would probably need to adjust my mount, as in raise it slightly, in order to keep a larger TV at the same height as my current TV. Part of me thinks too that if I exchange my TV I reintroduce the possibility of encountering a defect, however small. The 60" I have now works great.

Does IQ at 1080p begin to look less sharp at larger sizes?

Thoughts?

Screen Door Effect kicks in badly for 1080p pannels at 65"+ I highly recommend a 4k screen, even with upscaling, will have much less of a SDE

As for a TV, what is your budget?

If you dont have a lot to spend on it, the Vizio 80 MC3 is a good 4k choice, it can be had for $3500

if you have more available funds to get a good screen, I highly suggest the Sony 75"x940c, I have it and love it, you'll be amazed by it. Plus as it looks like you dont have an acutal sound system (could be mistaken here) you'll take full advantage of its amazing built in speakers. You can get it for $5999 right now.

 

[rinse82]

Hey guys, need some advice. About a month ago I upgraded from a 40" to a 55" TV. After realizing that the 55" was clearly too small I exchanged it for a 60". Well now I'm beginning to think that the 60" is still not quite the ideal size for my space.

I'm wondering though whether it's worth the trouble of boxing up the TV and hauling it to the store yet again. Also, I would probably need to adjust my mount, as in raise it slightly, in order to keep a larger TV at the same height as my current TV. Part of me thinks too that if I exchange my TV I reintroduce the possibility of encountering a defect, however small. The 60" I have now works great.

Does IQ at 1080p begin to look less sharp at larger sizes?

Thoughts?

I'd be going at least 70-75 inch for that space.

I have a M70 Vizio in a similar size space I think, I'll post some pictures tonight.

 

[Pagusas]

Hey guys, need some advice. About a month ago I upgraded from a 40" to a 55" TV. After realizing that the 55" was clearly too small I exchanged it for a 60". Well now I'm beginning to think that the 60" is still not quite the ideal size for my space.

I'm wondering though whether it's worth the trouble of boxing up the TV and hauling it to the store yet again. Also, I would probably need to adjust my mount, as in raise it slightly, in order to keep a larger TV at the same height as my current TV. Part of me thinks too that if I exchange my TV I reintroduce the possibility of encountering a defect, however small. The 60" I have now works great.

Does IQ at 1080p begin to look less sharp at larger sizes?

Thoughts?

How do you like those IKEA Stands? I'm on the fence about getting something like those.

 

[DOT DASH DOT]

I've watched quite a lot of HDR on my JS9000, and apart from Mozart I've been pretty impressed with how HDR is handled. I'm honestly concerned with how pure white or car lights for example are handled in HDR at 1000nits peak, even at 600 nits I looked down once or twice cause of the brightness frying my eyes! But it's early days and I'm sure parts like that will be toned down to a certain extent with practice on how to implement it well etc. But for people wondering whether to wait till the next new models, I'd say jump on now and save money, there's nothing the JS series can't do that the new ones can, aside from 600 vs 1000 nits, 9000 can already do 0.05 blacks.

 

[dw.og]

Screen Door Effect kicks in badly for 1080p pannels at 65"+ I highly recommend a 4k screen, even with upscaling, will have much less of a SDE

As for a TV, what is your budget?

If you dont have a lot to spend on it, the Vizio 80 MC3 is a good 4k choice, it can be had for $3500

if you have more available funds to get a good screen, I highly suggest the Sony 75"x940c, I have it and love it, you'll be amazed by it. Plus as it looks like you dont have an acutal sound system (could be mistaken here) you'll take full advantage of its amazing built in speakers. You can get it for $5999 right now.

My original budget was a very conservative $800. But that grew to $1100. I would gladly pay a few hundred more for a 65" but I'm just on the fence as to if I really want to go through with a second exchange. I can't even image spending more than like $3000 on a TV but hey more power to you for owning that awesome Sony model.

You're correct that I currently have no sound system. The speakers on the M60 (unsurprisingly) are pretty unspectacular. Usually I just use headphones because I like to hear more audio details. But then again I'm only using my Apple earbuds. I need to invest in either a decent headset or better yet a sound bar. There's not much space between my TV and PS4 though so I imagine I would maybe need to raise my TV if I wanted to mount a sound bar.

How do you like those IKEA Stands? I'm on the fence about getting something like those.

I really like them. It was a bit of a pain assembling them but I think they look great in the end. The far right unit houses my power adapter and all wiring so they're a great storage option as well. I see a lot of people have the glossy version but I decided to opt for the flat matte white.

I'd be going at least 70-75 inch for that space.

I have a M70 Vizio in a similar size space I think, I'll post some pictures tonight.

Awesome, I look forwarding to seeing them!

 

[Dewoh]

If your retailer is willing to accept the return, then take advantage of it. You don't want to make a purchase you'll regret.

 

[mmazurkiewicz]

Hey guys, need some advice. About a month ago I upgraded from a 40" to a 55" TV. After realizing that the 55" was clearly too small I exchanged it for a 60". Well now I'm beginning to think that the 60" is still not quite the ideal size for my space.

I'm wondering though whether it's worth the trouble of boxing up the TV and hauling it to the store yet again. Also, I would probably need to adjust my mount, as in raise it slightly, in order to keep a larger TV at the same height as my current TV. Part of me thinks too that if I exchange my TV I reintroduce the possibility of encountering a defect, however small. The 60" I have now works great.

Does IQ at 1080p begin to look less sharp at larger sizes?

Thoughts?

Forget all that.

I think you should get a larger Christmas tree.

 

[pswii60]

Your JS9000 might've been a bad one. It shouldn't have any trailing in motion, and it shouldn't look washed out either. I had an EG910/9100, and while it obviously had great black levels, everything else wasn't up to par at all IMO. Haven't owned the EF9500, though.

Nice try.

 

[Eiji]

I think 1080p sweet spot is 55". Any bigger and I would go 4K.

 

[Fox1304]

Hey guys, need some advice. About a month ago I upgraded from a 40" to a 55" TV. After realizing that the 55" was clearly too small I exchanged it for a 60". Well now I'm beginning to think that the 60" is still not quite the ideal size for my space.

I'm wondering though whether it's worth the trouble of boxing up the TV and hauling it to the store yet again. Also, I would probably need to adjust my mount, as in raise it slightly, in order to keep a larger TV at the same height as my current TV. Part of me thinks too that if I exchange my TV I reintroduce the possibility of encountering a defect, however small. The 60" I have now works great.

Does IQ at 1080p begin to look less sharp at larger sizes?

Thoughts?

What a nice setup to get a projector

 

[julrik]

Nice try.

What?


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My JS9000 arrived yesterday. Not particularily impressed. Sigh..

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

My JS9000 arrived yesterday. Not particularily impressed. Sigh..

Go on...

Personally, I'm not even looking to be impressed. I just want a set with good input lag that doesn't have a ton of nasty DSE and the reviews say the 9000 might fit that bill.

 

[DOT DASH DOT]

What?


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My JS9000 arrived yesterday. Not particularily impressed. Sigh..

Get some good 4K content on it and then say it's meh, I've gone from a 9G Kuro and I'm more than happy, 4K gaming is amazing! Unless you've got a bad panel? Mine is nigh on as good as you'll get, does help.

 

[Pagusas]

What?


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My JS9000 arrived yesterday. Not particularily impressed. Sigh..

Its a traditional LCD screen in the end, probably the max a non-flad will see, its understandable to be disapointed with it given its price. I'm suprised at the number of people who will choose a 9000 over a 9500.

If you want a FALD screen priced like a 9000, wait just 1 year.

 

[tmdorsey]

What?


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My JS9000 arrived yesterday. Not particularily impressed. Sigh..

I'm curious if you attempted to calibrate it any or what your overall expectations were to begin with.

I have the 8500 and I get more and more impressed by it everyday.

 

[rinse82]

My original budget was a very conservative $800. But that grew to $1100. I would gladly pay a few hundred more for a 65" but I'm just on the fence as to if I really want to go through with a second exchange. I can't even image spending more than like $3000 on a TV but hey more power to you for owning that awesome Sony model.

You're correct that I currently have no sound system. The speakers on the M60 (unsurprisingly) are pretty unspectacular. Usually I just use headphones because I like to hear more audio details. But then again I'm only using my Apple earbuds. I need to invest in either a decent headset or better yet a sound bar. There's not much space between my TV and PS4 though so I imagine I would maybe need to raise my TV if I wanted to mount a sound bar.



I really like them. It was a bit of a pain assembling them but I think they look great in the end. The far right unit houses my power adapter and all wiring so they're a great storage option as well. I see a lot of people have the glossy version but I decided to opt for the flat matte white.



Awesome, I look forwarding to seeing them!

Vizio M70

 

[julrik]

Go on...

Personally, I'm not even looking to be impressed. I just want a set with good input lag that doesn't have a ton of nasty DSE and the reviews say the 9000 might fit that bill.

If that's your only criteria, the JS9000 may very well fit the bill. The input lag is great, obviously, and I haven't noticed any DSE yet.

The reason I'm disappointed is that I've seen pictures of several good sets, and unfortunately mine is not as good. Backlight bleeding and clouding, and some pink splotches/tint. I'm a sucker for uniformity, and I would've hoped the panel I got would fare better.

If you can look past these faults, or even better - get a great panel - it's a good TV. The processing is good and so is the upscaling. The contrast could've been higher, but not a deal breaker.

Get some good 4K content on it and then say it's meh, I've gone from a 9G Kuro and I'm more than happy, 4K gaming is amazing! Unless you've got a bad panel? Mine is nigh on as good as you'll get, does help.

Yeah, I don't have a perfect panel at all. Wish I was as lucky as you. If I had perfect uniformity, I'd definitely keep it. Now I'm not sure. I have tried 4k, and it's obviously awesome.

I'm coming from a 9G Kuro as well, and I've tried Sony W805 and LG EG9100 (both returned).

Its a traditional LCD screen in the end, probably the max a non-flad will see, its understandable to be disapointed with it given its price. I'm suprised at the number of people who will choose a 9000 over a 9500.

If you want a FALD screen priced like a 9000, wait just 1 year.

Don't have the space for a 65" and it's a little over my preferred budget. Trying to save up for an apartment as well.

I'm curious if you attempted to calibrate it any or what your overall expectations were to begin with.

I have the 8500 and I get more and more impressed by it everyday.

Used AVForums' settings as a starting point, before using the WoW disc to calibrate as best I could.

I was just hoping for a good panel, really. Uniform blacks and whites. I have neither, unfortunately.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

If that's your only criteria, the JS9000 may very well fit the bill. The input lag is great, obviously, and I haven't noticed any DSE yet.

The reason I'm disappointed is that I've seen pictures of several good sets, and unfortunately mine is not as good. Backlight bleeding and clouding, and some pink splotches/tint. I'm a sucker for uniformity, and I would've hoped the panel I got would fare better.

Sorry to hear that you did not win the lottery. I've played numerous times with different models and I haven't won yet. I had a section of pink tinting on my 7500 but it really wasn't noticeable except on a white screen. I could've lived with that if it was the only flaw. I also had some clouding but I was able to use the "light pressure massage" method to get rid of it (which helped with the tinting some too). Being rear-lit there was no backlight bleed, but of course there was the DSE, which in this case was a direct result of being rear-lit with LEDs, so you kinda have to pick your poison there.

If you can't lessen some of the problems then just exchange again and again until you get one you can live with, or the vendor tells you they are cutting you off.

Sometimes I feel like there is no way to escape the bullshit problems of modern TVs so why bother spending a lot of money? Why not just spend the minimal amount for a Vizio or something that will get the job done. Sure it will look bad and have DSE and whatnot but the fact is these problems show up on the expensive sets too unless you are lucky (I'm not) so what's the point of spending the extra dough? No matter what UHD, HDR, etc. the set has, my eyes are just going to be drawn to the flaws anyway. That's just the way I am wired. At least if you are spending 1/3 the money, you won't be quite as disappointed, right? <end rant>

 

[julrik]

Sorry to hear that you did not win the lottery. I've played numerous times with different models and I haven't won yet. I had a section of pink tinting on my 7500 but it really wasn't noticeable except on a white screen. I could've lived with that if it was the only flaw. I also had some clouding but I was able to use the "light pressure massage" method to get rid of it (which helped with the tinting some too). Being rear-lit there was no backlight bleed, but of course there was the DSE, which in this case was a direct result of being rear-lit with LEDs, so you kinda have to pick your poison there.

If you can't lessen some of the problems then just exchange again and again until you get one you can live with, or the vendor tells you they are cutting you off.

Sometimes I feel like there is no way to escape the bullshit problems of modern TVs so why bother spending a lot of money? Why not just spend the minimal amount for a Vizio or something that will get the job done. Sure it will look bad and have DSE and whatnot but the fact is these problems show up on the expensive sets too unless you are lucky (I'm not) so what's the point of spending the extra dough? No matter what UHD, HDR, etc. the set has, my eyes are just going to be drawn to the flaws anyway. That's just the way I am wired. At least if you are spending 1/3 the money, you won't be quite as disappointed, right? <end rant>

You're spot on there.

I could return it and continue to play the lottery, but to be honest, I'm sick of buying TVs and returning them.. I've now had two Sony W805, one LG EG9100 and now obviously the JS9000. All from different retailers, so I could continue for a while, but I think I'll stop now.

Found a used Panasonic VT50, which is 10 minutes away. I might go and check it out, and will most likely buy it if there aren't any faults with it. It'll probably only cost ~$700. Then I'll keep that one until there are OLEDs with sub-30 ms input lag, no banding, no vignetting and no tint.

 

[dw.og]

Vizio M70

Very nice! How do you like playing PS4 on that? How far do you sit away?

 

[RadarScope1]

Sorry to hear that you did not win the lottery. I've played numerous times with different models and I haven't won yet. I had a section of pink tinting on my 7500 but it really wasn't noticeable except on a white screen. I could've lived with that if it was the only flaw. I also had some clouding but I was able to use the "light pressure massage" method to get rid of it (which helped with the tinting some too). Being rear-lit there was no backlight bleed, but of course there was the DSE, which in this case was a direct result of being rear-lit with LEDs, so you kinda have to pick your poison there.

If you can't lessen some of the problems then just exchange again and again until you get one you can live with, or the vendor tells you they are cutting you off.

Sometimes I feel like there is no way to escape the bullshit problems of modern TVs so why bother spending a lot of money? Why not just spend the minimal amount for a Vizio or something that will get the job done. Sure it will look bad and have DSE and whatnot but the fact is these problems show up on the expensive sets too unless you are lucky (I'm not) so what's the point of spending the extra dough? No matter what UHD, HDR, etc. the set has, my eyes are just going to be drawn to the flaws anyway. That's just the way I am wired. At least if you are spending 1/3 the money, you won't be quite as disappointed, right? <end rant>

Man, what a bummer. Glad I am not in the market for a TV. Good luck to all the picky people out there. I'm one of them. It would drive me nuts to return even one....

 

[DJ Lushious]

Vizio M70

Widen out those front speakers! The channel separation you've got going there is non-existent. It looks like you have the width to do so, too.

 

[rinse82]

Very nice! How do you like playing PS4 on that? How far do you sit away?

It's great, with game low latency on the input lag is <20ms which I believe is best in class. I sit 11 ft away

Widen out those front speakers! The channel separation you've got going there is non-existent. It looks like you have the width to do so, too.

I know unfortunately the wife just bought two bookshelves to put on each side of the tv, so my only option would be to move the speakers to the edges on the wall, which is too much space I think. Based on my viewing distance, I think the speakers should be 9 ft apart

 

[b0bbyJ03]

just came here to say that im super excited about jumping on that B6 LG 65 inch. Been waiting for years to get an OLED and i think it will finally be time. anyone else.

 

[Im a Manatee]

GAF, need a sanity check here....

First, I'm pretty set on Vizio. I like my parents 2013 E-series and I had a 22" from them that worked well in the past. As a recent college grad, the e-series is about my price range.

I'm a PC gamer and I have a 1440p monitor and I'm not interested in 4k - Waiting for the specs to finalize re: HDR/HDCP2.2. Its just not in my upgrade path for my PC/streaming appetite/AVR right now.

I'm looking for a great budget 1080p set. Rtings says the 2015 Vizio E-series is good for gaming. My question is: does the quality of these sets differ between sizes? I ask because the cost difference between the 50 inch and 48 inch is 80 dollars.

RTings says the dimming feature doesn't work well, so it doesn't matter how many LED zones I get.

The number of E-series TVs' dimming zones varies by size. 40-43" TVs have 5 dimming zones, 48" TVs have 6, 50-60" TVs have 12, and the 65" & 70" TVs have 16. Since the feature doesn't work well, the number of zones doesn't matter.

If these aren't good, will getting the Vizio M-Series make my games look like ass if I have to upscale? It doesn't support 4:4:4 at any resolution and I can't push 4k with a good frame rate. I only play PC games and don't play enough to be pursuing a 980ti or SLI (I travel for work during the week).

So:

1. Am I crazy to get the 48 inch?
2. Am I crazy to get a vizio E-series?
3. Is it a significant improvement over my 2010 LG 42LD520?
4. Any signs that the 2016 budget line is around the corner? Last month Vizio refreshed its "D-series" and TBH I don't know where it fits in to the product line. Its 4K and more expensive than the M-series.

 

[Jigolo]

Bit of news from Digitimes saying that LG expects to reach 80-90% yields for their 4K OLED panels. What's also interesting is that they've said their FHD panels have reached these yields which is probably why we saw multiple sales for the 9100 @ $1500 - $1700 as opposed to the $2200. Hopefully 2017 will be the year of better pricing for OLEDs

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20160114PD206.html

 

[Dewoh]

That's awesome news.

I've had to return my JS9500 for technical issues, so turns out I'm in on the search for a new TV. At this point I'm holding out for more information on the 2016 models. Rebuying a JS9500 right now seems foolish.

 

[Insane Metal]

Bit of news from Digitimes saying that LG expects to reach 80-90% yields for their 4K OLED panels. What's also interesting is that they've said their FHD panels have reached these yields which is probably why we saw multiple sales for the 9100 @ $1500 - $1700 as opposed to the $2200. Hopefully 2017 will be the year of better pricing for OLEDs

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20160114PD206.html

This is GREAT news.

 

[MrJames]

Bit of news from Digitimes saying that LG expects to reach 80-90% yields for their 4K OLED panels. What's also interesting is that they've said their FHD panels have reached these yields which is probably why we saw multiple sales for the 9100 @ $1500 - $1700 as opposed to the $2200. Hopefully 2017 will be the year of better pricing for OLEDs

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20160114PD206.html

Hope that means a lower street price on the new E6 when it launches. $7K is steep but that is my leading candidate right now.

 

[mmazurkiewicz]

So like 2008 and 2009, the years the Kuro died, we're likely entering into another recession in the next two years. I hope OLED holds strong the next few years. I don't think its anything like the Kuro situation which leaves me hopeful.

 

[sn00zer]

Real quick as they are the same price currently
Samsung J6200 50"
or
Vizio E-Series 50"
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Basically this question

Looking for a recommendation - I'm getting a new 1080p TV for the living room and I've narrowed it down to a Vizio E Series or the Samsung J6200. I've ruled out the 4k TVs due to price and the fact that there isn't much 4k content right now (I can always upgrade later down the road).

The Vizios have better input lag, but the Samsung seems to be a better overall TV, though the input lag is just average. Anyone have experience with either of these and could recommend one or the other?

 

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Sry for the bump but im heading out in the next hour or so