The Fighting Game Noob Thread: From Scrub to Master
- Thread starter Cindi Mayweather
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Marvel
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Nice, recieved.
Karsticles
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No, I mean like entire sections of the Wiki are blank. That's not good.
PM Discoshark.
Gipsy Danger
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Added you, too.
Marvel
could never
Thanks!
SquirrelSoup
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Who in this thread is from Europe and an SF4/5 player? I'd like to help out people with actual matches on Steam or PS4 but seems like mostly everyone is North America or Asia
EU too, will be playing SF5 (on PS4).
Ardenyal
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Who in this thread is from Europe and an SF4/5 player? I'd like to help out people with actual matches on Steam or PS4 but seems like mostly everyone is North America or Asia
I am in europe, on PS4 and going to play SF4/5.
Would be nice to have an endless lobby one night. Be a bit more relaxed taking turns showing off how bad everyone is.
Professor Renegade
Banned
Anyone know about fighting game tournaments that go down in Toronto? wouldn't mind checking them out once I get enough practice in
Pretty sure A and C games has them.
I wouldn't mind checking them out myself when I move there.
I see lots of jumping. Now granted, you're not getting punished for it that much but Chun's jumps are some of the floatiest in the game, which means that a lot of characters can chuck plasma and still react to the jump with a flash kick.
After an air-to-air double fierce there's ample time to either combo with an ex bird or do her air stomps afterwards.
Also, antiairing with Chun is a bit challenging but she does have tools. Her standing MK is a pretty good tool for that when Ryu's right above you and if they're jumping a bit further away, you can hit them with a standing HK or HP. If you're feel like taking a risk, you can also do an air-to-air jumping double HP for a combo.
Try to ease on mashing EX legs. It might get the opponent off guard but it's a bad habit that took me months to get rid of when I played Chun (eventually switched to Honda).
Also, for legs. A good way to confirm into ex legs is hitting crouching LK 4 times in relatively quick succession (it's fine if they don't all come out) and then hitting two kick buttons. For example: a double tap, then a short pause, then another double tap and two kicks right after.
Don't play SF on a DS4, the touch pad always gets in the way and the triggers, while fantastic for everything else, are placed in a manner that you're guaranteed to constantly push the trigger buttons.
The last ok regular pad for SF was the PS3 controller; inferior in all ways to the DS4, except when it comes to SF.
And battery, obviously.
The last ok regular pad for SF was the PS3 controller; inferior in all ways to the DS4, except when it comes to SF.
And battery, obviously.
CountBlack
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A&C Games hosts weeklies for USF4 on Wednesdays. MKX/KOFXIII on Monday. Anime I think is on Tuesday?
Cindi Mayweather
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Check out these replays everyone! I'm VERY proud of this series of matches! I learned A LOT tonight despite not one win! WOO! Look at me play aggressive in SF!
versus Evil Ryu
versus Makoto
Look at me get fierce!
versus Evil Ryu
versus Makoto
Look at me get fierce!
Cindi Mayweather
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Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I cannot do dash-in/ jump-in combos at all in Xrd. It is legitimately harder than SFIV's one frame links getting one dumb attack to come out as soon as you land. I can't get it with any consistency whether I try to time it or just mash.
Professor Renegade
Banned
I also feel this way (minus knowing SFIV one frame links). There's some moves and combos i just can't get out consistently with Ky.
CountBlack
Member
Yea i've been having the same issues too :/
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Instinct and habit.
I know I need to work on my AA.
Think about where you want to be against Evil Ryu. You were approaching him with block pressure that didn't go anywhere (no Kikokens or tic throws), and then he just did jump-ins. Outside of his jump-ins, he wasn't playing zoning or using c.mk, the combination of which is a big part of what makes Evil Ryu more than just Ryu with less health and more damage. But he didn't need to get in because you got close for him without putting on enough pressure. I don't know much about offense as Chun-li, though I know it's not really her strongest point.
Cindi Mayweather
Member
I tried to tick throw but he'd kick me out of his space when I tried it.
I need to practice AAing jump ins with Chun.
I'm proud of the keeping Makoto out a lot of our fights. That felt good.
Lostconfused
Member
wanna play some matches?
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Well, it's a risk like anything else. Don't give it up as an option, since nobody can punish it every time.
Also do you turn on your input display in replays? I know it's painful to watch, but it can help pinpoint what you're doing wrong under pressure, where you could have charged a Kikoken, and your own or even other players' habits in general.
NoctisVsStar
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Match one vs Ryu: http://youtu.be/P67fvzAzgfk
I played the match clean, some miss inputs here and there normal.
Match two vs Guile: http://youtu.be/TsO2tEUWBA0
No idea what the fuck this guile was trying to do, he wanted to out lame me and hold his charge. Too bad I out lamed him.
Match three vs Cammy: http://youtu.be/21lD7GT9Cs4
Cammy going nuts I should've won this match earlier instead it went an extra round. Random DP's, jumping like a maniac and LOL @ me trying to play properly. I won the match because I didn't panic and pressed buttons during pressure and hit some key FADC's. Cammy is just stupid in SF4.
I played the match clean, some miss inputs here and there normal.
Match two vs Guile: http://youtu.be/TsO2tEUWBA0
No idea what the fuck this guile was trying to do, he wanted to out lame me and hold his charge. Too bad I out lamed him.
Match three vs Cammy: http://youtu.be/21lD7GT9Cs4
Cammy going nuts I should've won this match earlier instead it went an extra round. Random DP's, jumping like a maniac and LOL @ me trying to play properly. I won the match because I didn't panic and pressed buttons during pressure and hit some key FADC's. Cammy is just stupid in SF4.
CountBlack
Member
I only know one way to combo from an air dash lol
Never seen so much jumping
Lostconfused
Member
Well I mean it's pretty hard to say why a jump in isn't working in Xrd without analyzing it in more detail.
The one I find hard is Ky's jump Slash, jump Heavy Slash, Close Slash. Mainly because if you don't do an air dash you will probably land before the heavy slash comes out, but the hit stun for heavy slash is so insignificant that if you do it too high up the close slash won't lead to a proper combo. So in that case the height of the air dash is key along with the timing of the jump in normals and ground ones.
If Q still reads this thread, I'll probably get blown up for knowing nothing about his character.
Edit: On the other hand Sol's shit is so easy as long as you get the height right, tons of hit stun and 5K has a 3 frame startup or the fact that you can buffer motion input for specials in the air make jump dust -> fafnir super easy as long as you don't mess up your half circle.
The one I find hard is Ky's jump Slash, jump Heavy Slash, Close Slash. Mainly because if you don't do an air dash you will probably land before the heavy slash comes out, but the hit stun for heavy slash is so insignificant that if you do it too high up the close slash won't lead to a proper combo. So in that case the height of the air dash is key along with the timing of the jump in normals and ground ones.
If Q still reads this thread, I'll probably get blown up for knowing nothing about his character.
Edit: On the other hand Sol's shit is so easy as long as you get the height right, tons of hit stun and 5K has a 3 frame startup or the fact that you can buffer motion input for specials in the air make jump dust -> fafnir super easy as long as you don't mess up your half circle.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Tell me about it, I feel like that's a tactic to make you jump. I'll remain grounded thank you very much. He was trying to bait counter hits for the most part. I was slamming that crouching tech lol
Cindi Mayweather
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You are trying to keep me grounded and humble by beating the tits off me! I know it!
Unfortunately, I'm tipsy!
NoctisVsStar
Member
Xbox360 USF4 matches is like the hyperbolic chamber at times be like Jesus I had this
Killers everywhere, get the body bags.
Killers everywhere, get the body bags.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Best advice in this thread thanks Face-Senpai I'll be S-rank in no time Kappa
You did miss out on a lot of damage on that guy though. I saw you doing cr short, cr jab to punish stuff way too often.
That dash in TC, dp fadc u1 to punish the whiffed dp was s-ranked.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Will do! I just don't know what I can moves I can punish from Cammy or the majority of the cast. I stopped playing USF4 a long time ago and sticked with 3s until V comes out. However, this thread motivated me to give Ultra one last ride.
Not a bad decision if you ask me.
NoctisVsStar
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zedreamcast
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So i have had no wifi, minus 4G, and ive been forced to fight CPUs and ive realized i should focus more on Ken and ive been having some fun wirh Chun Li
Who in this thread is from Europe and an SF4/5 player? I'd like to help out people with actual matches on Steam or PS4 but seems like mostly everyone is North America or Asia
I'm from Ireland, PSN is Natz-k (although SFV only). Although I might not even be on much when it comes out as I'll be in Scotland for my girlfriend's birthday for a few days, but I'll be here for release day!
Kuksune
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markwaters
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Check out these replays everyone! I'm VERY proud of this series of matches! I learned A LOT tonight despite not one win! WOO! Look at me play aggressive in SF!
versus Evil Ryu
versus Makoto
Look at me get fierce!
I like it! Based on the other responses to your post, it seems like you're learning and know where your weak areas are (anti-airs and so on). I think the two biggest things I noticed were a lack of conversion on jabs into the st.hp link, and sometimes you sacrificed good spacing/risked your health bar to keep moving forward, which isn't always the most solid game plan. Converting hits and optimizing your hit confirms comes with time, but always be mindful of your spacing and where you want to be positioned relative to the opponent/matchup -- especially with a footsies monster like Chun.
Cindi Mayweather
Member
I"m fucking DYING.
Right. On one fight, I had a little health left, and I was ignorant of my spacing in the corner and pressed forward. Mistake.
Gipsy Danger
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Any EU players interested in a USF4 Endless lobby on PS4 tonight?
Around 8:30pm GMT?
Around 8:30pm GMT?
RockTurtle
Member
you all laugh but as a guy player this strategy guarantees at least 40% hp gone :s
Marvel
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Karsticles
Member
Alright, here is my first DoA5LR set:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjM8eXwrDbQ
Feedback is welcome and appreciated. The only thing I don't need to be told is that those Marie Rose high kicks should be countered with 6H. I figured that in training mode after, haha. I kept getting hit by it because my thoughts went:
1) Okay, so it's high, right?
2) Damn it, maybe it's mid?
3) Uh, is it a low?
4) Maybe my timing is off...back to 1).
Can every character only counter mid kicks with a 6H, or is that a unique Rachel shortcoming?
One request: if you give feedback about a particular moment (which I need a lot of), please include a timestamp so I can see what you're talking about. It's probably best to watch farther into the set than sooner, since I start figuring some things out after getting wrecked the first few matches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjM8eXwrDbQ
Feedback is welcome and appreciated. The only thing I don't need to be told is that those Marie Rose high kicks should be countered with 6H. I figured that in training mode after, haha. I kept getting hit by it because my thoughts went:
1) Okay, so it's high, right?
2) Damn it, maybe it's mid?
3) Uh, is it a low?
4) Maybe my timing is off...back to 1).
Can every character only counter mid kicks with a 6H, or is that a unique Rachel shortcoming?
One request: if you give feedback about a particular moment (which I need a lot of), please include a timestamp so I can see what you're talking about. It's probably best to watch farther into the set than sooner, since I start figuring some things out after getting wrecked the first few matches.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
I'd laugh, but every now and then this kind of behaviour still catches me off guard for a round or so. The ultimate mindgame.