MegaSackman
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I can't say if it's true or not but I seriously thought the same at some point.
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I can't say if it's true or not but I seriously thought the same at some point.
I did the same thing you did for several of my first attempts...
You missed a solution. You are missing something.
Suffice it to say that everything before that specific six panel section is possible.
Found a puzzle in my damn shower Jonathan Blow is crazy: https://youtu.be/z9UkQPiu2tw
Smiles and Cries
Member
oh oh I must know what I am doing wrong there
yeah that is what I was thinking it must not be a troll but even re-roll seems to take off a lot of time
I need this area for my first Platinum trophy for PS4 so I'll keep at it
good to know they area solvable it will help me learn
unless the solution is white lines can pick up yellow dots, that would suck as a solution
yeah that is what I was thinking it must not be a troll but even re-roll seems to take off a lot of time
I need this are for my first Platinum trophy for PS4 so I'll keep at it
good to know they are solvable it will help me learn
unless the solution is white lines can pick up yellow dots, that would suck as a solution
Don't forget that there are two different corners you can start from as well as two different ending places. Try to focus on figuring out which start and end point you're going to use before worrying about the details
How many areas are there ?
i already completed
areas, i remember reading before game launch they were
, i don't want to go to
unless i activate all the lasers, but i can't even know where to look for that last one!
the areas i finished so far (based on the trophies) are :
can anyone please tell me where to go next ? or is the last area is actually
and i should just go there now ?
i already completed
10
11
the mountain
the areas i finished so far (based on the trophies) are :
Shady Trees, Symmetry, Desert Ruin, Treehouses, Keep, Quarry, Marsh, Jungle, Monastery, Bunker & Town
The mountain
Smiles and Cries
Member
yeah I got that far
I even like these puzzles but the time I waste on them is costly
I always have the music end after the maze just before the exit to the pillars smh
Smiles and Cries
Member
the
area laser was kinda tricky for me to spot to be fair
11th
It sounds like you did 11 areas.
I did the same thing and miscounted the lasers thinking I was missing one.
I did the same thing and miscounted the lasers thinking I was missing one.
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
To people really struggling with the
:
challenge
There is a way to not have to blindly guess where to go in the maze. Pay attention to what colors that room is and see if you find them anywhere else in the challenge.
It sounds like you did 11 areas.
I did the same thing and miscounted the lasers thinking I was missing one.
Haha .. this game never fails to make me feel stupid, even when i'm not trying to solve a puzzle.
Thanks guys, off to
the mountain
Grinchy
Banned
I will, because I fucking hated that puzzle. Here's a vague hint.
Keep walking around. You don't necessarily even need to be looking at the screen to determine which areas are good and bad.
Zomba13
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Messofanego
Banned
Anyone who's playing the PC version, do you know why I can't use Shadowplay (or Mirillis Action) to record game footage?
Digital Limit
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forknknife
Banned
Haha I'm stuck at the same spot and i just came here in hopes of finding a hint too! What are the odds?
I speel my dreenk
Member
Just finished the challenge, spoilz:
. Fantastic stuff.
Still getting mind-shattering moments even this late in the game, too, like only just discovering
. Sitting at 520
, and absolutely in love with this game. If they released DLC that was just hundreds more puzzles
, I'd play them all.
oh nooooOOOOOOOO
I feel like I just ran a fucking mile. Took about 50 attempts over a couple of days. Some people are saying turn the music off, and I suppose that would help, but that's a big part of the experience of the whole thing, imo. Absolutely perfect track selection there. I got to the final two puzzles while still on the first track, so I figured I had a good run going - but then took most of the second track on one puzzle, and only barely finished, with mere seconds left
Still getting mind-shattering moments even this late in the game, too, like only just discovering
what the lake actually is
+127 +3
jam-packed in caverns or wherever like the lead-up to the challenge
oh nooooOOOOOOOO
All of those puzzles involve a
unique mechanic to solve. Trust your senses on them
Now working on the bamboo/jungle forrest, and honestly, it is the first time I am annoyed with the game and think it is being unfair.
If you try a solution that doesn't work, you don't know if it is wrong because you are trying the wrong thing, or because you simply got the pitches wrong. Which is incredibly frustrating. Take the one with the wolf for example. I tried inputting the wolf howl as mid-mid-high-mid, but it was wrong. So naturally, I thought that was the wrong direction of thinking. But it turned out I was right, and simply got the pitch wrong, it was low-mid-high-mid. I am now onto the next one, and I have no idea if I am thinking wrong, or I got the pitches wrong. Which sucks.
Make a list of the combinations you've tried already -- trial and error can get you through those parts easily enough; and as usual in hindsight you'll see where you went wrong when you do get it.
I decided to try watching someone else play and nope, can't do it.
He was trying to solve a puzzle and actually figured out that the it required look through some branches so it would obscure some paths. He lined it up perfectly...then run all the way back in front the puzzle to input it.
Trojan
Member
Get out of my head, Blow
Question about one of the puzzles in the Desert area:
More specifically, in the underground part of the desert:
I had no trouble finding the path from the exit until the center of the right-most set of four squares (from the start: one left, one down). But where was I supposed to stand in the room in order to see the path from that node to the start of the maze? I just couldn't find it.
There were just four possible solutions left, so I just tried them one after the other.
I had no trouble finding the path from the exit until the center of the right-most set of four squares (from the start: one left, one down). But where was I supposed to stand in the room in order to see the path from that node to the start of the maze? I just couldn't find it.
There were just four possible solutions left, so I just tried them one after the other.
Remembrance
Member
You see the other half by standing across from the panel on the far side of the room.
Question about one of the puzzles in the Desert area:
More specifically, in the underground part of the desert:
I had no trouble finding the path from the exit until the center of the right-most set of four squares (from the start: one left, one down). But where was I supposed to stand in the room in order to see the path from that node to the start of the maze? I just couldn't find it.
There were just four possible solutions left, so I just tried them one after the other.
I asked this a while back, and didn't get a response. My overwhelming gut feeling - unless any other evidence comes to light - is that
brute forcing the remaining parts *is* the right solution - the idea, conceivably being that Blow wants you to get so used to having to find the explicit right answer prior to that that actual trial and error at that stage feels a bit like a lateral-thinking solution to the puzzle.
I feel that if the solution was meant to be discovered somehow, he'd have implemented more false paths on the left side
I feel that if the solution was meant to be discovered somehow, he'd have implemented more false paths on the left side
Edit: Hey wait, I hadn't read your response right -
you'd only seen the half I hadn't seen!.
So I'm 4 days into this puzzle, midway through the swamp (2nd platform), and I'm throwing in the halp flag.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaermuvVAAE5xsN.jpg
Here's what I think I know:
This is what I can't figure out.
Where have I gone wrong?
You don't have to brute force it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaermuvVAAE5xsN.jpg
Here's what I think I know:
I need to use this panel to move platform either to either of the nearby sides (purple and blue).
I need to trace out the center tetris icon in conjunction with one (or more) of the colors. I've grouped it with them and had only the outside, non-grouped colors blinking at me.
I need to trace out the center tetris icon in conjunction with one (or more) of the colors. I've grouped it with them and had only the outside, non-grouped colors blinking at me.
This is what I can't figure out.
What do I do with the rest of the dots? I've done the above while 1) separating all four dots into their own space, 2) grouping them into pairs, 3) grouping the three dots not used in conjunction with the tetris shape into one space. From what I can tell, that's all possible permutations of how to group the colors, and they blink at me with every attempt. So I'm stumped.
Conceptually, this is the first time I've run into a panel with just one color of each, rather than pairs (and not having a "mistake" icon). Should I know how to do these if this is my first run in with them?
Conceptually, this is the first time I've run into a panel with just one color of each, rather than pairs (and not having a "mistake" icon). Should I know how to do these if this is my first run in with them?
Where have I gone wrong?
You don't have to brute force it.
Stick - rigidly - to the established rules. Don't get distracted by other aspects at this point; you know how Tetris pieces work, don't mix it up now. It's still very much consistent.
Edit: I'm inserting this one because it struck me as something you may possibly not have realised:
The dots are Tetris pieces too
A reminder of the Tetris rule I work with, just in case your interpretation is different and conflicting with this puzzle:
A segment that contains a tetris piece must be able to be made out of the tetris pieces within it
There's a more explicit answer here.
Each dot that's not linked to the L-shape needs to be isolated in a 1x1 square
ashecitism
Member
How many routes are there? Which one do you want to connect and which one do you want to leave out? That's how you need to group them.
more explicitly:
physically you can connect two places with the L. The other 2 must be isolated.
Let me see if I can not be 100% specific.
You're correct in that you need to connect the shape to two colors, to move the platform you are standing on. Then for the remaining colored pieces, what's the rule you encountered for the colored squares in other puzzles? Maybe you remember doing puzzles involving them with only black and white pieces? And you need to separate the black pieces from the white pieces?
Remembrance
Member
Like the bridge earlier (where you could solve the puzzle with a configuration that the platforms couldn't move to), you are constrained by how this platform can move physically.
Try solving it for where the platform is right now.
From that deduce the only position it can move to.
little hint:
Look to the in-game world in front of you and try to visualize how this bridge should be formed,
hint:
what can be moved and what cannot,
and then put your idea on the panel.
I speel my dreenk
Member
Non-explicit:
You've already done a puzzle like this, think back on that one.
Congrats, you must feel like some sort of... mountain king!
I averted my eyes when quoting this to avoid the other hints, but yes, this is what I was missing. Thanks.
Still not sure how the colors interact with this, but I'll noodle on it.
As an aside, this is the most colorblind-unfriendly game I've played in years. I'll need my wife or daughter in the room to finish the greenhouse.
(Major spoilers for this puzzle, but I'm curious
Is there actually a solution that's valid for the grid that's one the platform can't pivot to? I can't think of one off the top of my head.
StopMakingSense
Member
Question about one of the puzzles in the Desert area:
More specifically, in the underground part of the desert:
It's
across the way, but somewhere in the middle of the water levels.
As an aside, this is the most colorblind-unfriendly game I've played in years. I'll need my wife or daughter in the room to finish the greenhouse.
Yeah, it's really rough in the later puzzles. I had to ask for help too.
As an aside, this is the most colorblind-unfriendly game I've played in years. I'll need my wife or daughter in the room to finish the greenhouse.
Yeah, that struck me when talking about that puzzle earlier, I appreciate that it must be awkward. When I gave hints I was trying to avoid an outright solution, of course, but it's crossed my mind that you might not be able to see a key element of it at all. But drawing your attention by asking about it will be too obvious if that element isn't an issue.
If it's any consolation, I don't think there's any area that's quite so demanding off the top of my head. But then, I don't have the condition, so I might be wrong.
Remembrance
Member
(Major spoilers for this puzzle, but I'm curious
Is there actually a solution that's valid for the grid that's one the platform can't pivot to? I can't think of one off the top of my head.
I think I overthought it. There shouldn't be.
Question about one of the puzzles in the Desert area:
More specifically, in the underground part of the desert:
I had no trouble finding the path from the exit until the center of the right-most set of four squares (from the start: one left, one down). But where was I supposed to stand in the room in order to see the path from that node to the start of the maze? I just couldn't find it.
There were just four possible solutions left, so I just tried them one after the other.
There are
two places where you can see 80% of the solution. From there, there are only a few possibilities. These two places are when the water is high or low (you don't need to race and look at the reflection when the water is moving
boredJonathan
Member
Finally started on what I think is the final area,
, after lighting up the other 11 Lazers. Thank god for the Trophies triggering off of each zone completed, or I might have been much more nervous about having missed some tucked away section like the Orchard.
Finished the first set of puzzles there and feeling good about my progress. Wanted to press on further, but had a lot to do at work today so I turned in early. Eager for the day to be over so I can hopefully polish off the last section. Really enjoyed this game, but I'm also getting a bit burnt out on it.
Overall, I've had to resort to help 3 different times. Once was simply to understand the Tetris blocks, not for any particular solution. Once was to understand one of the town puzzles, which I am kicking myself over. I knew what it was hinting at, but instead of stepping away I wanted to confirm since it was one of those 'get the wrong answer and it shuts off' panels. In confirming, it basically gave me the answer as well. The only puzzle I explicitly went looking for an answer too was for the second to last Jungle puzzle. Again one of those panels that powers off with the wrong guess and I was tired of redoing the puzzle before. (
)
That actually makes me realize something, that the panels that turn off are really freaking annoying. I understand the logic behind WHY they turn off, but in practice it just tried my patience more than anything else. Especially the Jungle puzzle - where it's already so abstract. (the Town one I can see more, because it was trying to ensure you had actually learned what you needed about each area - but the panel I was having trouble with was so unlike the other panels that taught the mechanic I honestly wondered if I had missed some little tucked away area.
.)
Still enjoying the game a great deal, but glad I'm apparently in the home strech.
BTW - did we ever get a final puzzle count and + puzzle count? I'm at like 411 and 35 but I remember seeing somewhere around 700 and +75.
Mountain
Finished the first set of puzzles there and feeling good about my progress. Wanted to press on further, but had a lot to do at work today so I turned in early. Eager for the day to be over so I can hopefully polish off the last section. Really enjoyed this game, but I'm also getting a bit burnt out on it.
Overall, I've had to resort to help 3 different times. Once was simply to understand the Tetris blocks, not for any particular solution. Once was to understand one of the town puzzles, which I am kicking myself over. I knew what it was hinting at, but instead of stepping away I wanted to confirm since it was one of those 'get the wrong answer and it shuts off' panels. In confirming, it basically gave me the answer as well. The only puzzle I explicitly went looking for an answer too was for the second to last Jungle puzzle. Again one of those panels that powers off with the wrong guess and I was tired of redoing the puzzle before. (
Turns out I had somehow inverted the pitch in my head and as soon as I saw the solution I felt like an idiot.
That actually makes me realize something, that the panels that turn off are really freaking annoying. I understand the logic behind WHY they turn off, but in practice it just tried my patience more than anything else. Especially the Jungle puzzle - where it's already so abstract. (the Town one I can see more, because it was trying to ensure you had actually learned what you needed about each area - but the panel I was having trouble with was so unlike the other panels that taught the mechanic I honestly wondered if I had missed some little tucked away area.
Again, ironically, because I wondered if I had missed an area like the Orchard is missable, when it was the Orchard the puzzle was invoking
Still enjoying the game a great deal, but glad I'm apparently in the home strech.
BTW - did we ever get a final puzzle count and + puzzle count? I'm at like 411 and 35 but I remember seeing somewhere around 700 and +75.
I think his criticisms are valid.
I just like puzzles, so it makes easy to overlook the flaws.
petethepanda
Member
As far as I can tell, this puzzle exposes a new rule that is kind of at odds with my previous mental model:I averted my eyes when quoting this to avoid the other hints, but yes, this is what I was missing. Thanks.
Still not sure how the colors interact with this, but I'll noodle on it.
As an aside, this is the most colorblind-unfriendly game I've played in years. I'll need my wife or daughter in the room to finish the greenhouse.
the Tetris symbol sufficiently partitions two dots otherwise contained in a single area. Previously, I had thought that colors must be separated into closed areas strictly defined by a line.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
I am in the M
ountain in the first chamber and have finished all the puzzles except the one in the left hand end point/room with the drawings, I can tell there is a puzzle in there, I just can seem to get around the block in the middle to get to it. Any hints?
Remembrance
Member
You can't
get "around," per se...
I would say it can be most clearly stated as:
a tetris piece only cares about shape and solid/hollow status.
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