Hey the person made a post about maximizing profit, if they truly want to do that or are in the business to maximize profit then open the flood gates! Release the games on steam and other consoles if it's truly about maximizing profit....just saying
Microsoft Releasing Exclusive Games on PC Is Great for Xbox Owners
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Hey the person made a post about maximizing profit, if they truly want to do that or are in the business to maximize profit then open the flood gates! Release the games on steam and other consoles if it's truly about maximizing profit....just saying
Their CEO proclaimed he was going to use Xbox first-party IP and Live to drive Windows adoption. I don't imagine Sony allowing Windows or Live on a PlayStation anytime soon, but I suppose crazier things have happened.
You're missing a critical piece here though. It's about maximizing usage and revenue of Windows, according to their CEO. That's why he put the Xbox division in the OS group, had Spencer report to the EVP of Windows, put the Xbox on the hardware team (same team that does HoloLens, Surface, Lumia, etc.). All of it is about growing Windows.
This seems like a great thing for everyone involved. I'm not sure if I trust Microsoft that everything will come based off the similar promises they've made in the past and how the Halo series has been managed on PC. The games getting to more people is a good thing. You're not losing anything because someone else is able to play a game they might enjoy.
TouchMyBox
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But then you'll make everybody want to vomit every time you say "ecosystem" in the context of talking about corporations.
Maximizing profit also requires a long term goal. You don't want people to buy games on Steam or PSN because you want them to buy from Windows/Xbox store because of the 30% cut. Force your users into the ecosystem and make them want to go only there instead of the other options. That's maximizing profit when you are in the situation that they are in. They own the platform. They want devs and consumers to use their platform. I understand what you are saying but long term, them being on Steam and PSN doesn't help them.
Freeman
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Great for everyone that doesn't want to buy a MS console and is interested in one of their games.
For Xbox owners it makes no diference at best or might be disappointing.
MS is just finally accepting the reality that getting into the console busness was a mistake and they are trying to see if they can revert back and gain some space in the PC market.
A new more powerfull "Xbox" running windows will show up soon enough.
For Xbox owners it makes no diference at best or might be disappointing.
MS is just finally accepting the reality that getting into the console busness was a mistake and they are trying to see if they can revert back and gain some space in the PC market.
A new more powerfull "Xbox" running windows will show up soon enough.
dead monkey uk
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I am from the future, Xbox One Prime will be released in 2017 and will be able to play all games in the Window 10 store at 1080/60 resolution and cost $600. Buying an Xbox One retail game will give you access to that game in the Windows 10 store, this will stop any confusion at retail, as disks will work on both consoles.
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You're not wrong, but this forum is heavily console biased.
SplitYourInfinities
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Wow at people downplaying the exclusives importance. Exclusives are the console's juice, the differentiation point that helps to create a strong brand image and an identity. That's why a Nintendo console is something special, because it's the only place you got to play a Mario, or a Zelda, or a Metroid. Exclusives are why even after the initial clusterfuck the PS3 sold more than the 360 and the end of the generation. By releasing the Xbox One exclusives on another platform Microsoft is depriving his own console of what makes it unique.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I disagree, OP. I have an Xbone, and literally haven't used it once, because all the games I've been interested in have come to PC anyway. And in that case, why would I even bother with the Xbone version? So, while the strategy is good from the perspective of having the best possible version of a given game, it's also made the money I spent to buy an Xbone a complete waste.
Consider it a "Microsoft" exclusive then. You can play it on their Xbox Console or Xbox Windows 10 store.
dead monkey uk
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Is this really how its going to work, will MS not link this to your XBL account?
Disaster Nebraska
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I think every platform (except handhelds) have their vocal fanbase here.
Go to any thread regarding graphics and the PC fans will show up and start proselytizing.
Pretty sure the argument is that not many console players give much of a shit about the games coming to PC, or at least I dont.
Bigger playerbase, better chances for follow ups if it's a new IP or a lesser known IP, owning 2 versions for the price of one in the case of QB just about outweigh any negative.
And speaking honeslty, what is the negative? Less ammo for list wars?
Caayn
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This is most likely true. However you can install and use your Windows 10 apps/games on 10 different devices at the same time.
Who gives a shit other than fanboys who want to feel special? For the millionth time, most people who buy an Xbox One do so because they prefer consoles. These games are still going to be console exclusives just the same. Most will not even blink over the games also being on PC, much less care about looking into it so they can raise hell on gaming forums.
dancrane212
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Like I said in the OP, I sympathise with those PC owners who bought a console for exclusives that are now going to your platform of choice, but then again wouldn't that be a good thing for you in the end?
You can always sell that Xbox.
TouchMyBox
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And why on earth should anybody who doesn't own a stake in said company give a shit about any of that? Would Zelda stop existing if it ran on more than one set of APIs?
Yeah so most people outside forums like this buy a console...they don't have a superpowered pc that can play these games
So it really only benefits people instead of hurting them
SpideySenses
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PS4 getting all those Vita games sure worked out well for Vita owners in the long run.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Heh, this is something that can happen, since both have similar architecture.
They're trying to pivot towards creating a strong brand imagine and identity for their platform called Windows 10.
Disaster Nebraska
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How is that "great for Xbox One owners" per the title, though?
People seem to be wilfully ignoring this, even when it's the core topic.
See above.
Less ammo for "I don't own an Xbox One. Should I buy one?"
Don't understand users that said they feel betrayed or something, you had your console for two years, probably enjoy it that time, now you can sell if you have a good PC, and the dollars you "lost" is the time you enjoy your console.
More sales for the game, making more chances for a sequel or other game. Realñy what do you think we are losing, ammo for the console war? The only thing I see is that the xbox threads woulb be more problematic with the concern trolling and the console warrior that act like their posts are relevant to the topic.
More sales for the game, making more chances for a sequel or other game. Realñy what do you think we are losing, ammo for the console war? The only thing I see is that the xbox threads woulb be more problematic with the concern trolling and the console warrior that act like their posts are relevant to the topic.
DarthWalden
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Nintendo has its own issues.
Sony is outselling Microsoft 2:1 and Microsoft has arguably a better lineup of exclusives.
Exclusives matter but not as much as you think.
TouchMyBox
Member
I guess if it ends up generating more sales, then that's more money Microsoft can spend financing more games?
Once again. This is nothing but positive. If you have an Xbox one the you have an extra way to play the game and MS might even bundle both version in one package a lot of times. If you have a PC you get to try cool exclusives without buying and X1. And if you haven;t bought the system yet or do not own a PC, then the choice is the same. Nothing wrong with this unless you are into the whole console war, entitlement BS.
Hell I hope they keep making bundled releases so that I can get the X1 and PC versions at once.
How? You get a whole other way to play your MS games? And in some cases by buying just one version you get both X1 and PC? How is this not great. More exposure for the games. More sales. If you don't have a PC then you start building a library that may one day get you to buy the PC. And if you are already an X1 owner there is no way in which this is bad as you already own the console.
I can't see any way in which this ia bad or a negative for X1 owners in any way other than console war, sales boasting, and other such BS.
Hell I hope they keep making bundled releases so that I can get the X1 and PC versions at once.
How? You get a whole other way to play your MS games? And in some cases by buying just one version you get both X1 and PC? How is this not great. More exposure for the games. More sales. If you don't have a PC then you start building a library that may one day get you to buy the PC. And if you are already an X1 owner there is no way in which this is bad as you already own the console.
I can't see any way in which this ia bad or a negative for X1 owners in any way other than console war, sales boasting, and other such BS.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
As someone who likes to play everything on console I don't see why people have a problem with this. People play console to play on console. Not because the game is available elsewhere. Because they like to play on their console. There are games I prefer to play on PC but that's restricted to games that are better suited for the input devices. 3rd person shooters are just the type of game I prefer on console.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
The distinction I'm making is that I'm better off as a gamer, but worse off as an Xbox owner. When my best case scenario as an Xbone owner is that I get rid of the thing... that's not great for Xbone owners.
It's great for me because I bought an Xbox One and PS4 because I prefer consoles. Just as most who buy these systems do. The games going to PC will not affect me one bit and will still be Xbox exclusives because they are not on PS4. Not a damn thing has changed.
Mass_Pincup
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The thing is, to take advantage of the cross buy concept you have to own a gaming PC. Now if you own a gaming PC performance, framerate or resolution interest you. Knowing that why would someone who values performance will buy or play on a XB1 when he knows that the games will be available on PC.
And sure cross buy is nice but in this case it's a bit useless, there's no benefit to play Quantum Break on XB1 over the PC for exemple. The XB1 is just a lesser version of what you can get on PC. That and the fact that for now you have to preorder to have a cross buy version.
So I would argue that it's a bad deal for a lot of people. I personally received an XB1 for christmas, but I own a gaming PC. If all the upcoming Xbox exclusives release on PC I now have no use for it since I'm going to buy them on PC.
At best it does affect you but at worst you have a useless console, I really don't see how it's great for Xbox owners. Great for everyone else though that's for sure.
Movalpolos
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The Xbox Store and the Windows Store have yet to be combined. That's most likely happening this year (when they open up the Xbox store to "everyone" for development) with Windows 10 Redstone release. When that happens, you can expect clicking the button once and having it everywhere. Microsoft already has this with Windows 10 and Windows 10 Mobile. It's going to happen to Xbox, Hololens, etc...The future is bright and it is coming, slowly but surely.
I feel like I've been taking crazy pills on this forum saying that this stuff was going to happen and people downplaying me (and others). Thank god its happening. Quantum Break is the first to announce it, I'm sure Gears, Recore are next. This E3 is going to be exciting.
No more "Xbox and Windows 10 Exclusive"...now it'll be "Microsoft Exclusive"...
Plague Doctor
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Yeah... if Scalebound goes this direction, there is officially zero reason to have Xbox One as a second console. I'll wait to see what the NX has to offer.
Love Deterrence
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Dude with the Ryse Son of Rome avatar please post if you are ok
I can't remember the exact quote, but Spencer said the larger platform (i.e. more users, more revenue) should afford them to take more risks. If that pans out then there should be even more games coming to their (Windows 10) device of choice.
The conversation just changes to considering a Windows 10 PC, laptop, or Xbox depending on their preferences and budget.
Microsoft gets your money to make more games for Windows 10 and consumers get a range of options on where they could play them. Not seeing how that's a negative.
sir_dany12
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RIP Xbox
Pretty much this. Which is funny, I hated the term 'Microsoft Exclusive' last generation, but in this new context, it's factual.
All of which are Microsoft platforms.
Abinash117
Member
I think the argument is that some games wouldn't have been made if it is only on the XB1, but that is a specific reason that for specific games on certain circumstances. I doubt for some triple A games it would have done fine. Another reason could be that MS is trying to make WIN10 more attractive to gaming so more games will turn up on the win10 store which then in turn will come out for the xbox( I think that was a talking point somewhere last year) , but I doubt that many games will do that and many pc games are skipping the xbox and releasing on the PS4 and another reason could be more money for MS means more funding for games.
Either way it does mean in lose in potential sales although no one knows how much. It looks like to me the PS4 is going to have a lot more exclusives and I think many people are fine with because now they don't have to buy an Xbox. They can just have a PS4/PC and/or NX(if it gets a bunch of 3rd party games)/PC/PS4.
Xbox as a brand and as a console isn't going away.