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Update 31.12.2016

Sorry for the bump, but another thread was probably a tad overkill and this will reach the ones who subscribed to this thread. Mode7 apparently liked me organizing the tournament and asked me if I had interest to organize one for the whole community (not only GAF). So I am organizing a follow up tournament to this one for the whole FS community in collaboration with Mode7 on their forums:
http://forums.mode7games.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10815

We have exactly 1 participant so far, which is ... a gaffer of course. Gonna be interesting to see how many gaffers will end up in that tournament again.

Prices are Keys for the FS2 Beta, Frozen Cortex and the nervous_testpilot discography.

Have fun!

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Tournament Post: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=197160017&postcount=145

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Hey everyone!

First of all: FROZEN SYNAPSE 2 GOT ANNOUNCED

Older example gameplay video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wBpfn8hruQ

To celebrate the hype that I am feeling, I'll start organizing our second third Frozen Synapse Gaf tournament (the first one being ... 3 years ago or something). With around 216 people on my friends list owning the game, there should be plenty of Gaffers around who could participate. Also dont worry about tough competition, we'll all use the time until the tournament to learn the basics and share basic tactics here. If you want to check out one of the best strategic MP games of the past years, NOW is your chance!

Prizes:

• Frozen Synapse 2 Beta invite (shoutout and thanks to Mode7 - developer of FS!)
• Steam gift of your choice worth 30$
• Steam gift of your choice worth 10$
• Games from this pile (Thanks to Acccent!)
• Tropico 4 Collectors Edition (Thanks to Large Professor!)
  
  If you want to chime in other prizes, let me know via PM and I'll add this to the prizes list.

Schedule:
Since many havent played the game or didnt play the game in ages, we can use this thread to collect interested participants, share gameplay hints, videos, ask for challengers until the last date of the registration: 29th of February 2016

On that day, I'll start setting up the first few rounds (probably group phase) for which you have 1 week time. It is likely that the thread gets moved to the Community forums around that time, so keep an eye out for that. That is the current plan, but plans may change a bit depending on how many players we get to join. Exact rules to follow.

Overview Info box:

Steam link: http://store.steampowered.com/app/98200/

Registration End Date: 29. February 2016
First matches due date: 6. March 2016

I highly recommend to subscribe to the thread to be reminded of its existence if you want to participate,

Participants:
Toma - FS: TomaLexi
Large Professor - FS: xandernederland
Cosmic Schwung - FS: CosmicSchwung
archnemesis - FS: archnemesis
Instro - FS: Instro
Wok - FS: Wok
InertiaXr - FS: InertiaXr
Razakin - FS: razakin
The_Super_Inframan - FS: Schnitzelfee
n8 - FS: n8BitMan
Corto
kalor - FS: smalltrouble
Jazzerman
DunderHassan - FS: DunderHassan
Swarley64 - FS: sinewave1337
CzarTim - FS: czartim
electricpirate
A sentient Keyboard - FS: ImmoralWombat
Vlad - FS: xVladx
Volodja - FS: Volodja
Acccent - FS: Accent
SteelAttack
Skab - FS: Skab
krpiper
Codeblue - FS: codeblue
TheDanimal - FS: AnotherDinosaur
Najaf - FS: Najaf
Unicorn - FS: Yagya
Super Muffin - FS: SuperMuffin
titch - FS: titch71
Balthuk - FS: Balthuk
ArtofWar420
OmegaDragon - FS: OmegaDragon

 

[mrklaw]

subscribed.

Confession - I have this on both Steam and Ipad, and barely played either. Will try and get back into it on PC as I used to be really into turn based stuff.

 

[Toma]

Also, again:

FS is still currently on sale for 3 more hours! Grab it now for 5$/75% off if you want to participate!

...or if you already own this from a million bundles, use the thread as an excuse to finally play it.

 

[Large Professor]

I'm in!

 

[Toma]

subscribed.

Confession - I have this on both Steam and Ipad, and barely played either. Will try and get back into it on PC as I used to be really into turn based stuff.

Are you in for the tourney or will decide later?

 

[Cosmic Schwung]

It's been an absolute age since I last played this. It got hard as nails near the end, especially that damn lobby level. I think I got through it purely on luck.

 

[archnemesis]

Sure, I'm in too.

 

[Cday]

I would, but I haven't played this as much as I should have. I'd be fodder.

 

[Instro]

I'm in, it's been ages.

 

[archnemesis]

I don't think I've played this since the last tournament. Being fodder is fine. I'll rely on pure luck to take me through this.

 

[Wok]

Count me in!

 

[LuffyZoro]

I haven't played very much, but I'll give it a go! I'm in.

 

[Toma]

I would, but I haven't played this as much as I should have. I'd be fodder.

Dont worry about it too much, I am trying to get a ton of people on board, many of which didnt play that much. I just poked all 200 people on my steam friends list who own the game about the tournament Also, its mostly about the fun! Didnt participate in a tournament in ages!

Thats what you get for being virtual friends with me! Tournament announcement punishment

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

Saw your heads up on steam. I only played a little bit of it and I already found it hard lol. Dont even remember if I liked the little I tried ages ago and had to stop becuase I probably had work and never got back, or didnt and thats why I never played anymore.

 

[Toma]

Saw your heads up on steam. I only played a little bit of it and I already found it hard lol. Dont even remember if I liked the little I tried ages ago and had to stop becuase I probably had work and never got back, or didnt and thats why I never played anymore.

I can only read that as "I totally want to join!", right? ;p
We can also talk a bit about basics and tactics in the coming weeks.

 

[mrklaw]

Are you in for the tourney or will decide later?

will decide later. Will get my arse handed to me anyway

 

[InertiaXr]

I'm in for a tournament.

 

[Toma]

will decide later. Will get my arse handed to me anyway

I am actually afraid that might happen to me too, considering how long I havent played it properly Watch the expectation of me doing great in the tourney and losing the first round!

 

[Toma]

Just found the tournament table from the old tournament!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28130394&postcount=387

The most interesting part is that almost all matches are linked and viewable

3. Tournament tables

[I]InfectedZero[/I]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA5qYJXwDrg"]  Match 1 - InfectedZero
  Match 2 - Sectus
  Match 3 - Draw
  Match 4 - Infected Zero[/URL]     [I]InfectedZero[/I]
[I]Sectus[/I]                          [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCnvsmLGlnA"]Match 1 - InfectedZero[/URL]
                                [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Y-CbHHOMQ"]Match 2 - InfectedZero[/URL]
[I]Drkirby[/I]                         Match 3 - ???
  [URL="http://youtu.be/RWchh7WMnxs"]Match 1 - Drkirby[/URL]           [I]Drkirby[/I]
  [URL="http://youtu.be/N7BM-Uh4wo4"]Match 2 - Hasmedaoa[/URL]
  [URL="http://youtu.be/TA1qkxFMqAE"]Match 3 - Drkirby[/URL]
[I]Hasmedaoa[/I]

[I]Yagya[/I]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1SwBJFii3Q"]Match 1 - Yagya[/URL]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdfu1UDwK-E"]Match 2 - n0b[/URL]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkFKjicJupw"]Match 3 - n0b[/URL]               [I]n0b[/I]
[I]n0b[/I]                             [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IilhkthIFpU"]Match 1 - n0b[/URL]
                                Match 2 - ???
[I]KZaph[/I]                           Match 3 - ???
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10O6vaTAYVQ"]Match 1 - KZaph[/URL]             [I]Kzaph[/I]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbAz87u0aZs"]Match 2 - KZaph[/URL]
  Match 3 - ---
[I]NIN90[/I]

[I]Nabs[/I]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGiIuN9D4nY&hd=1"]Match 1 - Nabs[/URL]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUIKAyeIwRM&hd=1"]Match 2 - Nabs[/URL]
  Match 3 - ---               [I]Nabs[/I]
[I]Aon[/I]                             [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDLzZ58HxFM&hd=1"]Match 1 - Nabs[/URL]
                                [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0d11J-MI7k&hd=1"]Match 2 - Nabs[/URL]
[I]Toma[/I]                            Match 3 - ---
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du0-pp4gfs8"]Match 1 - OldGamer[/URL]          [I]OldGamer[/I]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNzXE_seylo"]Match 2 - Draw[/URL]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKkpFkWb7hI&"]Match 3 - OldGamer[/URL]                                 [I]Nabs[/I]
[I]OldGamer[/I]                                               [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TTxgUxsO6k"]Match 1 - Cramen[/URL]
                                                       [URL="http://www.youtube.comwatch?v=SHhjGbaQ4jQ&hd=1"]Match 2 - Nabs[/URL]
[I]archnemesis[/I]                                            [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV6sf-JTlF8"]Match 3 - Cramen[/URL]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx-820OmQBs"]Match 1 - archnemesis[/URL]                              [I]Cramen[/I]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuRcntZDIC8"]Match 2 - archnemesis[/URL]
  Match 3 - ---               [I]archnemesis[/I]
[I]snoopeasystreet[/I]                 [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjqZdHCEu7w"]Match 1 - cramen[/URL]
                                [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gifOsiBr1c"]Match 2 - draw[/URL]
[I]cramen[/I]                          [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiqC0JXJQsA"]Match 3 - archnemesis[/URL] 
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7rRDHPPucU"]Match 1 - cramen[/URL]              [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGUzz0apihY"]Match 4 - cramen[/URL]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyPwAixHK6U"]Match 2 - Moobs[/URL]             [I]cramen[/I]
  [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSHJuAPo8Ps"]Match 3 - cramen[/URL]
[I]Moobs[/I]

 

[Razakin]

Yeah, I'm in. Just so that others don't have to be dead last.

 

[Toma]

Just dropping some more useful info from the old thread in here.

Key bindings:

Cursor Keys = Scroll the map
M and K = Zoom
Space = Play/Pause
Backspace = Remove waypoints/Orders from last to first
"=" = remove the last 10 waypoints on a plan
Delete = Remove selected order
D = Duck
S = Stand
C = Continue on Sight
E = Engage on sight
X = Cancel Aim
T = Hold down T and drag the mouse to create a zone
Hold V = Test visibility
Tab = Cycle through your units
1-9 = Select one of your units by its number

 

[Shalashaska]

Definitely in.

 

[Toma]

We apparently already had TWO tournaments, so this is the third.

Google sheet with group results and youtube links for the second tournament.

Also: crazy that we had like 60 participants in that one.

 

[The_Super_Inframan]

Sign me up!

And thanks for doing this!

 

[Toma]

And I finally found the post I was looking for:
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That would probably be helpful to many of the beginners.
Official hint thread in their forums

And tips from the top of my head:

[U][B]1.SIMULATE all kinds of tactics you can come up for your and your opponents team. [/B][/U]

  The easiest way to win is to find out which options your opponent has, and what you could 
  do to counter the top most likely ones.

  Easy examples:

     Aim rockets and grenades where they cover more than one space where an 
     opponent is likely hiding.

     If you position your soldiers to cover areas, try to figure out which areas your 
     opponent cant access, you dont need to cover these. But make sure you are covering 
     every entrance/way where he might get through.

[U][B]2.Make sure to have the cover advantage.[/B][/U]

  Rules for cover advantage:

     Most important: Hide behind cover. If your mg is walking towards a cover and you get to shoot
     behind cover at another mg who is uncovered, you'll win. Also, normal walls dont give cover.

     Next most important: Aim when you might contact another soldier. If your mg is aiming
     while walking and catching a running mg of the opponent, your soldier will win.

     The highest cover advantage: A soldier, standing still behind cover. If you want to secure
     an area, this is how you want your soldier to do it. It does NOT matter whether he is crouching
     or standing, but be reminded that changing from a crouching to a standing stance or vice
     versa will give you a cover disadvantage.

     Cover advantage importance:

[U][B]3.Use your units to their full potential.[/B][/U]

  Every unit has a different set of strengths and weeknesses. Learn to use them to your
  advantage

     MG:
     Most efficient on securing a long range view, out of "rush range" of any shotgunner. 
     As soon as you enemy saw your mg, try changing positions, so that he wont be able 
     to outmaneuver you.

     Shotgunner: 
     Those guys are very efficient inside a building. On close range, they only
     have to fear another shotgunner. They can practically storm onto a camping mg if 
     positioned correctly. If you are up against one, try to stay out of immediate death
     range. Use the simulation to check how far you need to stay away.

     Rocketeer:
     Only hits walls and cover, to hit cover the rocketeer needs to be ducked. Also he is 
     very slow, so dont position him to far away from cover in case he is getting into the
     view of an enemy soldier. Also:never shoot a rocket if it doesnt hit in the same turn it  
     has been shot.

     Grenadier:
     Can be aimed into open space. Use the walls to change the direction of the projectile. 
     This will lead to suprising results more often than not. Can shoot over cover, while 
     ducked, so he cant be seen or shot. Also: never shoot a grenade if it doesnt hit in the 
     same turn it has been thrown.

[U][B]4.Learn to peek.[/B][/U]
  
  The biggest advantage you can have is to know where the opponents soldiers are.It is 
  way easier to counter enemy measure if you know where they are coming from. There 
  are basically two important types of "peeking".

     When walking a longer way, change your aiming direction from time time to time, so    
     that your soldier is able to cover more view.

     Set your soldier to "continue on sight", move him out of cover for a short moment, let 
     him peek into the direction you are interested in and run back.

[B][U]5.Mislead your enemy.[/U][/B]

  This game is a LOT about deception, here are a few tricks I can think of right now.
     
     Dont aim all the time:
     Aiming gives you a cover advantage, but it also slows you down. Often, there are 
     certain areas where you dont even need to aim if the enemy is farther away. If your 
     enemy saw you once and thinks you are aiming all the time, it also makes your 
     movement harder to predict.

     Duck below behind cover:
     If you walk around a building, try to duck behind "windows", and run the rest. That way
     you can move relatively fast and most enemies think you didnt walk that way because 
     they didnt see you through the window.

     Send a soldier to "peek", and attack with another:
     If you move out a soldier to peek, and move him back fast enough, nobody will be 
     able to harm him, even though enemy soldiers might start targetting your soldier.
     During this time, you can move forward another soldier, targetting the soldier that is 
     targetting your peeking soldier. While your peeking soldier is moving back to cover 
     safely, your soldier already has the advantage over the enemy.

[B][U]6.Learn to ignore.[/U][/B]
  
  While sitting behind cover, your enemy might do what I just described. Sometimes there 
  is a very easy counter measure: the "ignore" function.
  
  For example:

     Your MG is hiding behind cover and your opponent has a shotgunner and another mg   
     waiting on the other side of the map, he might send the shotgunner to peek, and then 
     the mg right afterwards to aim at your mg, while yours is still aiming and the 
     shotgunner to take you out before you can aim at your opponents MG. If the shotty is
     too far away anyway, just ignore him so that he cant distract your mg.

 

[n8]

Subscribed and participating! Ready to get back into the groove.

 

[Corto]

Count me in! Subscribed.

 

[Kalor]

I'll sign up. I've been playing this on and off since 2012 so I'd like to think I'm ok at it.

 

[Toma]

If anyone wants to play a round or two, let me know I definitely need more practice again as well.

 

[The_Super_Inframan]

It's been an absolute age since I last played this. It got hard as nails near the end, especially that damn lobby level. I think I got through it purely on luck.

I never even played the single player campaign, only the multiplayer...
Which is funny cause I'm no online multiplayer fan in 99% of cases... but this was just a blast against others

 

[Toma]

I never even played the single player campaign, only the multiplayer...
Which is funny cause I'm no online multiplayer fan in 99% of cases... but this was just a blast against others

Same for me, outside of Fifa/Pes it was probably the only game I absolutely adored in MP.

 

[Jazzerman]

I'm in. Though I haven't played for a long time! I'll update with my name when I know what it is...

edit: Jazzerman

 

[RS4-]

Sure, count me in for now.

 

[DunderHassan]

I'm in, I miss this brilliant game.

 

[swarley64]

OK, yes. I haven't played this game in over a year but I was into it pretty deep for a while there.

EDIT: My Frozen Synapse name is... *sigh* sinewave1337

 

[Toma]

I'm in, I miss this brilliant game.

You and me both. And I just looked it up... its actually 5 years since we met on GAF to do the tourneys.

FIVE years.

 

[The_Super_Inframan]

I'm in, I miss this brilliant game.

Duuundeeeer! So we meet again! But for a battle of the minds this time

You and me both. And I just looked it up... its actually 5 years since we met on GAF to do the tourneys.

FIVE years.

God I'm really getting old...

 

[CzarTim]

In! My favorite game.

 

[human onion]

I never got to finishing this game, but it is really fun. I might take a shot at it.

 

[Toma]

I never got to finishing this game, but it is really fun. I might take a shot at it.

Should I put you on the list then?

 

[human onion]

Should I put you on the list then?

Not yet, I'll confirm closer to your registration date.

 

[Toma]

Not yet, I'll confirm closer to your registration date.

No problem

 

[timetokill]

Subscribed. Can't commit just yet, will do so closer to reg. date.

 

[electricpirate]

This sounds great count me in

 

[Toma]

20 people already, neat

 

[Toma]

Oh btw, the tournament rules are likely going to be Dark Elimination, but do check out the other modes as well. They offer quite some fantastic elements that change up the tactics dramatically.

Also: I'll be up for some training matches over the weekend if anyone wants to

 

[A Sentient Keyboard]

Cool, I'm in! Let's see how much I have retained.

 

[Vlad]

Count me in, too. I'll gladly be someone else's easy first-round victory!

 

[Toma]

Count me in, too. I'll gladly be someone else's easy first-round victory!

Almost all participants say that, but you cant all lose in the first round

 

[Vlad]

Almost all participants say that, but you cant all lose in the first round

True, but I'm fairly confident in my abilities.