Place your bets: Batman v Superman vs Civil War vs Rogue One
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BadAss2961
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No idea about Rogue One, but Batman v Superman will expose the MCU for the rinky-dink operation it is.
A portion of GAF will be flustered by this, but ultimately give in after Suicide Squad release, which will end up the most liked here.
A portion of GAF will be flustered by this, but ultimately give in after Suicide Squad release, which will end up the most liked here.
Nah, I see it performing like Deadpool or Guardians
I can't see it doing better than BvS, but I can see it outperforming internal expectations more than BvS, which would certainly make it a winner in WB's eyes.
I'm with you bro.
djplaeskool
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Totally in the tank for Batman bin Suparman.
I think it'll go the distance gross-wise
Lukewarm on Civil War, but I got hit with MCU fatigue a while back. Maybe this will pull me back in...
I think it'll go the distance gross-wise
Lukewarm on Civil War, but I got hit with MCU fatigue a while back. Maybe this will pull me back in...
Vault Dweller 111
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To those of you picking BvS to be the most well liked on Gaf.
Have you ever visited Gaf?
Have you ever visited Gaf?
and fucking spider-man is in it
And Spider-Man is in it.
Sequel to Winter Soldier, mini-Avengers movie, Iron Man headlining, and Spider-Man's MCU debut.
It won't, but it will do very, very well. I agree that GOTG numbers sound about right, which makes sense, given that's the audience they've clearly been building for.
Nothing mini about it. It is an Avengers film, and is clearly being marketing as one. I get the concerns over release window, but as with the other Avengers flicks, they are going to market the hell out of this thing and will reap the benefits at the BO.
As much as I like the MCU, I have to agree with this.
styl3s
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I think Rogue One is gonna surprise a lot of people when the box office numbers come in, a lot of GAF members will eat a lot of crow with how good Batman V Superman is based on the like 80% of negative comments from the first 2 trailer threads and Civil War will make a ridiculous fucking amount of money but people will still say that comic films are over-saturated and dying and this is a sign because it made $3 less than some other comic book movie.
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Civil War will be the highest grossing
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Civil War will be the highest grossing
They need to advertise that Spidey is in the movie more. I'm betting a fair number of people (especially from the international audience) still don't know because they aren't following all of the production news.
TheWorthyEdge
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Which film will be the highest grossing at the box office?
Star Wars: Rogue One
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim?
Captain America: Civil War
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first?
Captain America: Civil War
Which film will be the best received by GAF?
Captain America: Civil War
Star Wars: Rogue One
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim?
Captain America: Civil War
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first?
Captain America: Civil War
Which film will be the best received by GAF?
Captain America: Civil War
I disagree.
Well, one it's hard to judge Superman's BO really.. dude is all over the place and it's 6 movies spread out over nearly 40 years... hard to decipher any real... rhyme or reason behind his popularity.
And I disagree with the marketing. It may not be something that necessarily appeals to you or people online, but it has done well for them.
Just for comparison sake because I've made reference to this several times before
Batman V Superman Teaser - 51 Million Views
26.5 Million Views
Comic Con Trailer - 62 Million Views
10 Million
Trailer 2 - 25 Million
13. 5 Million
13 Million
Trailer 3 - 16 Million
8 Million
1 Million
And a few more not counting.
Granted, has less to show but Civil War for comparison
Reveal Trailer - 48 Million
23 Million
9 Million
7.6 Million
2 million
Superbowl spot - 6 Million
4.6 Million
2 Million
So there's a ton of interest in both movies. Clearly.
how great would it be to have a new trailer with a spidey reveal attached to batman superman?
Schweinehund
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That's a tough call.
I feel like The Force Awakens was a big event and that even the sequel will have a hard time living up to to the box office, let a lone a spin off.
BvS is dependent on it's quality. We're hearing positive impressions from Hollywood Reporters. A certified fresh would certainly bring a lot of people over that were sitting on the fence, which I think there is a lot of. BvS also has no competition during it's first 3 weeks, and releases WW at the same time.
Civil War I think is a sure bet for atleast the same as the winter soldier, a bit more due to RDJ and spiderman. Spiderman isn't in the marketing though, which is hurting the film. I think it has the potential to do almost avenger numbers.
As it stands right now, I think it's more likely that rogue one will sell more than both, with the other two being closer, but I think if BvS is good it will pull numbers off comparable to avengers or jurassic world.
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim? I think rogue one or civil war. BvS will get some negative reviews based off of it's tone, regardless of quality. I'm sure they've already came in with the mindset of hating Zack Snyder as well. It will review better than MoS by default though since it has Batman. I
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first? BvS, it's the start of a new film universe and I like the characters. Positive impressions from many hollywood reporters so far as well. Then the other two I'm not sure. I don't care for prequel spin offs. Civil War also screams as a stop gap to Avengers 3, I'm not convinced it will be a satisfying stand alone story, rather filler to introduce BP/Spiderman. Any changes that happen I doubt will be permanent.
Which film will be the best received by GAF? Rogue. There's already a sizeable anti cbm group on gaf. Star Wars fatigue hasn't set in yet.
I feel like The Force Awakens was a big event and that even the sequel will have a hard time living up to to the box office, let a lone a spin off.
BvS is dependent on it's quality. We're hearing positive impressions from Hollywood Reporters. A certified fresh would certainly bring a lot of people over that were sitting on the fence, which I think there is a lot of. BvS also has no competition during it's first 3 weeks, and releases WW at the same time.
Civil War I think is a sure bet for atleast the same as the winter soldier, a bit more due to RDJ and spiderman. Spiderman isn't in the marketing though, which is hurting the film. I think it has the potential to do almost avenger numbers.
As it stands right now, I think it's more likely that rogue one will sell more than both, with the other two being closer, but I think if BvS is good it will pull numbers off comparable to avengers or jurassic world.
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim? I think rogue one or civil war. BvS will get some negative reviews based off of it's tone, regardless of quality. I'm sure they've already came in with the mindset of hating Zack Snyder as well. It will review better than MoS by default though since it has Batman. I
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first? BvS, it's the start of a new film universe and I like the characters. Positive impressions from many hollywood reporters so far as well. Then the other two I'm not sure. I don't care for prequel spin offs. Civil War also screams as a stop gap to Avengers 3, I'm not convinced it will be a satisfying stand alone story, rather filler to introduce BP/Spiderman. Any changes that happen I doubt will be permanent.
Which film will be the best received by GAF? Rogue. There's already a sizeable anti cbm group on gaf. Star Wars fatigue hasn't set in yet.
Count Dookkake
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Yes.
I can appreciate the work you put into that, but are we just to assume some positive correlation between youtube trailer hits and BO performance? As a general indicator? Sure. But as some definitive measure between the two? I'm not so sure I buy that.
Keep in mind, I never said it would perform poorly. I also never said the marketing wasn't successful. But it has clearly been a mess, and continues to be one. The characters are iconic enough that simply getting them out there will be effective to a degree. But in terms of generating interest in the story? I'd say it's been far more successful at making people ask just what in the blue fuck is actually going on, rather than anything else. That'll work in the short term, but if the script is as horrible as the trailers make it seem, it simply isn't going to continue to perform.
Compare that to something like AoU, which had a pretty terrible script, but whose trailers were incredibly easy to follow. I just think a lot of people who would otherwise buy tickets are going to take a wait and see approach, and I think the word back for a lot of them is going to be don't bother.
Poodlestrike
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Hmm.
Box office:
BvS>Rogue One>Civil War
BvS and Rogue One is going to be an effective tie, or close to it, and Civil War isn't gonna be distant either. All three of these movies are going to make bank.
Critical Acclaim
Rogue One's gonna lead this, but past that, no clue. BvS is a pretty massive wildcard here.
See first
BvS>Rogue One> Civil War. Having trouble getting myself hyped for Civil War for some reason, loved Winter Soldier, but... idk, I just don't know about this one. Maybe because the comic was so trash.
Most Beloved
Going with the third (fourth) option here and saying that Suicide Squad is going to blow all three away in this department by a huge margin.
But of those, probably Civil War>Rogue One> BvS. Even if BvS turns out really fantastic, there's a fair few people who are really dedicated to hating this one for reasons I really can't understand.
Box office:
BvS>Rogue One>Civil War
BvS and Rogue One is going to be an effective tie, or close to it, and Civil War isn't gonna be distant either. All three of these movies are going to make bank.
Critical Acclaim
Rogue One's gonna lead this, but past that, no clue. BvS is a pretty massive wildcard here.
See first
BvS>Rogue One> Civil War. Having trouble getting myself hyped for Civil War for some reason, loved Winter Soldier, but... idk, I just don't know about this one. Maybe because the comic was so trash.
Most Beloved
Going with the third (fourth) option here and saying that Suicide Squad is going to blow all three away in this department by a huge margin.
But of those, probably Civil War>Rogue One> BvS. Even if BvS turns out really fantastic, there's a fair few people who are really dedicated to hating this one for reasons I really can't understand.
My point wasn't about BO but you said the marketing had been a mess
Just pointing out that for many, it has worked in at least getting eyes on the movie/product
Independence Day.
All of it. To all of the questions. It's all about the aliens. And the prayer that will be answered around the world when Will Smith makes a glorious appearance, and surprises everyone. I balee.
All of it. To all of the questions. It's all about the aliens. And the prayer that will be answered around the world when Will Smith makes a glorious appearance, and surprises everyone. I balee.
This genuinely makes no sense. You can't be both of these things at the same time.
just a reminder for everyone in the thread, Iron Man 3 made $1.2 billion at the box office. Does anyone think Civil War will perform below Iron Man 3 at the box office? Because I can't see that happening.
Once Spider-Man shows up all over the marketing, I think there's a good chance it hits $1.5 billion. The movie looks so much more appealing than Age of Ultron, which still managed $1.4 billion.
Once Spider-Man shows up all over the marketing, I think there's a good chance it hits $1.5 billion. The movie looks so much more appealing than Age of Ultron, which still managed $1.4 billion.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Pulled up my prediction from last year's thread:
Man, I was dead-on, other than the 85+% for Avengers 2. I still think its one of the best comic book movies, but I don't think most would agree with me there.
Man, I was dead-on, other than the 85+% for Avengers 2. I still think its one of the best comic book movies, but I don't think most would agree with me there.
Yes. As we all know, opinions go topsy turvy on a whim with GAF. Avengers 2 was hyped to hell, and you stumble across any random thread and you'd think it's the worst film ever. Furious 7 was set to be a stupid film, backed by comments like, "lol there's seven of them??" All it took was one thread titled, "Furious 7: shockingly outrageously amazing."
We literally had an entire thread for Jurassic World of, "my body is ready!!", "Hype!" and, "YASSSS!" Now it's like the worst thing ever. Everyone pointed out a severe disinterest for Frozen, saying the voice acting "sucks" and people lost interest when the "sidekick showed up."
A good is a good movie, no one can deny that.
Schweinehund
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I was more basing it off the last Cap movie. I do think there will be a bump just from RDJ showing up though. I think Spiderman will help out a lot. So far the trailers have been just ok for me, I thought the Hulk vs Ironman fight in AoU was more interesting than anything I've seen so far from civil war, but I think another trailer will be dropping very soon that should have some good stuff in it.
Suicide Squad has a shot at $400M domestic I think. It'll perform similar to Deadpool with a boost from the PG-13 rating.
Yeah, I could see that happening. MCU was at it's hottest right after Avengers came out. I do think there's a small bit of truth to the MCU fatigue idea.
Iron Man 3 made that money coming off of Avengers not because of its quality. Civil War is coming off of Ant-Man. ;P
I think you're missing my point, and that is -- they're simply throwing bank at two of the most iconic characters on this entire planet. The marketing has been shit, but succeeds despite itself, solely due to the appeal of those characters. Plug in new IP, and tell me how great the marketing has been.
Warner gets to control the information flow for a short while longer, but if/when the movie is revealed to be kinda' shitty (which I suspect it is), that's it. It'll do as well as those characters take it. Enough to perform well, but not enough to outperform Civil War, and possibly not enough to outperform a Star Wars spinoff, either.
See above. Also, I couldn't disagree with you more about the ID4 sequel. I think it might do okay, though.
I get the former, but not at all the latter. How do you figure, because of the cameo? Apples and oranges.
CloudyTuba
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Rogue One to all.
Toss up for second place, I don't know. Personally I favor Civil War but I dont want to underestimate BvS.
Toss up for second place, I don't know. Personally I favor Civil War but I dont want to underestimate BvS.
Inferno313
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Iron Man 3 is far and away the most successful solo Marvel film, and that's largely because it came right after The Avengers, when MCU hype was at an all-time high.
Civil War will do well, very well, but I think it won't reach Iron Man 3 numbers.
BadAss2961
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Civil War is like Mitt Romney. Fans didn't even want this adaptation. They're just rolling with it because it got nominated.
Naughty_Doge
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I'm just glad to see I'm not the only one calling BvS "Batman bin Superman".
Will you continue to live in a world of delusion if/when Civil War becomes yet another critical and commercial darling for the MCU?
Movie-goers haven't a clue that its an adaptation. They just see two heroes with whom they have established some agency going toe-to-toe. Agency, by the way, that hasn't at all been established with Batfleck (new character) nor Caville Supes (shitty character/kinda' bad actor).
It'll outperform TWS handily, and absolutely perform in the range of Avengers/AoU.
When Jeff Goldblum saves the planet by destroying another alien species, and the movie becomes the biggest of all time, people will begin to give Independence Day the recognition it deserves. Then after the credits, we'll see Will Smith, and he'll be on another planet. It'll be some kind of jungle, but out of nowhere there'll be a familiar blue man everyone recognizes.
Cue Avatar 2: Independence Day.
I got this all figured out.
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Cue Avatar 2: Independence Day.
I got this all figured out.
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Yeah. Okay.
Triggerhappytel
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Lol. Come on dude; Spider-Man showing up as a side-character in a packed superhero film is not going to propel it to Avengers numbers. It's still a Captain America film first and foremost, and the kind of numbers you're suggesting would be double the box office performance of The Winter Soldier.
Which film will be the highest grossing at the box office? Civil War.
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim? Civil War.
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first? Star Wars.
Which film will be the best received by GAF? Civil War.
I'm not even a huge Marvel fan but I have a feeling it'll be the best of the bunch. Not really sold on BvS. Star Wars should be very good but I don't think a spin off story will attract enough people to bring in huge money, nor do I think it will be super well-received by people since so many people want to see cool lightsaber battles and jedi in Star Wars while I'm assuming Rogue One will be veering away from that stuff. Which will likely leave a lot of people disappointed.
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim? Civil War.
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first? Star Wars.
Which film will be the best received by GAF? Civil War.
I'm not even a huge Marvel fan but I have a feeling it'll be the best of the bunch. Not really sold on BvS. Star Wars should be very good but I don't think a spin off story will attract enough people to bring in huge money, nor do I think it will be super well-received by people since so many people want to see cool lightsaber battles and jedi in Star Wars while I'm assuming Rogue One will be veering away from that stuff. Which will likely leave a lot of people disappointed.
Which film will be the highest grossing at the box office?
BvS
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim?
Rogue One
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first?
BvS
Which film will be the best received by GAF?
Captain America: Civil War
BvS
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim?
Rogue One
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first?
BvS
Which film will be the best received by GAF?
Captain America: Civil War
My mistake. I mistook your comic relief for pointed criticism.
Your ID4/Avatar x-over sounds greeeeeeeeeeat.
Dreams-Visions
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Which film will be the highest grossing at the box office?
- Rogue One
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim?
- Rogue One
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first?
- Batman v Superman (Rogue One has no media for hype to exist)
Which film will be the best received by GAF?
- Initially? Civil War. Over time? Rogue One.
- Rogue One
Which film will receive the highest critical acclaim?
- Rogue One
If they were all released on the same day, which would you go see first?
- Batman v Superman (Rogue One has no media for hype to exist)
Which film will be the best received by GAF?
- Initially? Civil War. Over time? Rogue One.
BadAss2961
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I'm still there after what... 12 movies? So yeah, probably.
Maybe ID2 could be this year's Jurassic World. I wonder though, does it have the same novelty? Does America, Fuck Yeah! compare to dinosaurs?
L4DANathan
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Civil War, Civil War, Civil War, and Civil War (though a sizable minority will complain loudly about deviation from the comics)
BvS looks like its going to suffer from trying to fit too much into a single movie. Introducing this Batman, giving reason for them to be fighting, introduction of Wonder Woman, some stupid side Luthor storyline, introduction of Darkseid(?). Also, dat not so great CG.
Rogue One has received almost no marketing of any kind, which leads me to believe its just being sent out to test the waters/die. I don't think Disney has any faith in it. Combine that with the fact that its not a numbered release will turn a lot of people off.
BvS looks like its going to suffer from trying to fit too much into a single movie. Introducing this Batman, giving reason for them to be fighting, introduction of Wonder Woman, some stupid side Luthor storyline, introduction of Darkseid(?). Also, dat not so great CG.
Rogue One has received almost no marketing of any kind, which leads me to believe its just being sent out to test the waters/die. I don't think Disney has any faith in it. Combine that with the fact that its not a numbered release will turn a lot of people off.
Dash_Riprock
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Best stealth trolling ever!
Here we go again. So is the Raid 2 lacking due to an absence of "agency"? Aliens? I think you're dismissing the intelligence of the general audience; and the work of the filmmakers. Batfleck will be firmly planted in the universe within the scope of the film, and it shouldn't take a lot of mental gymnastics to accept his motivations.
Not to mention the marketing campaign; I'm pretty sure everyone knows by now that Ben Affleck is a new Batman. Everyone.
I'm curious why you think BvS is stuffed, but not Star Wars 7, or Rogue One (consider that it's an entirely new cast; with new - multiple - villains, and new worlds...). I felt Rey and Finn were well established, the plot was tightly knit involving all the major players in almost every scene, and with the heavy handed hinting of a larger tale... it was still a great experience. I suspect you've made up your mind before even watching the final film, and not giving it the benefit of the doubt. I mean, we're not talking about Seventh Son here, or Wrath of the Titans, or the limp looking X-Men Apocalypse. The film is going to be good; great, even.
And Disney isn't marketing Rogue One because it doesn't want to compete with the mind share of Deadpool, BvS, its own Jungle Book, and the upcoming Civil War. Avatar only had 3.5 months of advertising and marketing for example. Not every SW flick needs the Force Awakens treatment...
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