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Guys I need some opinions. I think I may be a bit insecure here but I don't know.

My GF started a new job a few moths ago. She seemed to get on fine but often times when she would get home to tell me about how her day went. However often times the same topic would keep cropping up.

There is this guy there (ex army I think) that she keeps complaining about constantly. She says he's rude to her and other workers and how she can't stand him. Okay so she's venting I get that. But she keeps bringing him up along every time I ask about her work. I'm tired of hearing about him and what he's been doing.

To make things even more confusing I found out that she recently added him on Facebook which makes no sense to me.

Okay being honest here I'm worried she might have a crush on him or something. Maybe she doesn't even know it. Why else would you keep thinking about someone you dislike so much. I dunno maybe I'm just very insecure. This is like my first major relationship.

I would ask why she added him on Facebook - there could be a variety of different reasons - but it's a perfectly reasonable, and non-prodding question, given how she talks about not being able to stand him.

It can be tough to balance coming off as "insecure" with being genuinely concerned about something. I can see how you'd be concerned somewhat that she talks about another guy nonstop, even in this way. From what you've told us, I think just asking her as above would be a good start. From there, just keep your eyes open as to how she behaves around him. If they actually start hanging out, that's cause for concern. Is there anything else to the scenario or going on?

For what it's worth, I've heard the "guy at work" thing start with the girl complaining first, then them getting closer and closer. Still - it's impossible to tell just from what you've told us.
 
Guys I need some opinions. I think I may be a bit insecure here but I don't know.

My GF started a new job a few moths ago. She seemed to get on fine but often times when she would get home to tell me about how her day went. However often times the same topic would keep cropping up.

There is this guy there (ex army I think) that she keeps complaining about constantly. She says he's rude to her and other workers and how she can't stand him. Okay so she's venting I get that. But she keeps bringing him up along every time I ask about her work. I'm tired of hearing about him and what he's been doing.

To make things even more confusing I found out that she recently added him on Facebook which makes no sense to me.

Okay being honest here I'm worried she might have a crush on him or something. Maybe she doesn't even know it. Why else would you keep thinking about someone you dislike so much. I dunno maybe I'm just very insecure. This is like my first major relationship.

Feels like you're overthinking it a little bit. If all she's saying about this dude is how she literally can't stand him then I can't imagine she has a secret crush on him. Sometimes you just add your colleagues on Facebook, doesn't have to mean anything. Having worked with many people over the years who annoyed the shit out of me, you'd be surprised at how much they can preoccupy your thoughts.
 
Not to alarm you too much arnie but an ex of mine complained about someone at work who was rude to her and others, would bring him up a fair amount, they're a couple now. Another ex would complain about someone at work and that was because she genuinely didn't like the guy so it's hard to know - but you would know more than we would, there also isn't much you can do, but you should ask a question if you are worried about it.
 
Some workplaces have a lot of pressure to make everyone a team, so a lot of after work activities and everyone is in your business, including being on your social media. I had a job like that and it was awful. I work with people 40 hours a week, my time off is for family and real friends. I turned down friend requests from work colleagues I wasn't seen as a team player. I only lasted about a year there.

Anyhow, it wouldn't hurt to ask why she added him. And when she brings him up, it's ok to ask (in a respectful way) to change the subject, or better yet, steer the conversation yourself in a different direction.
 
50 sounds ideal. By that stage hopefully I'll be wealthy enough to compensate for the inevitable decline in my physical attractiveness.



Yeah I can definitely agree with you there. Seems like every time I agree to being exclusive with someone, one week later I meet some super cute girl who is prime dating material.

I gotta get out into the world like you guys. I'm lucky to live in a pretty international city with lots of travelers but being nomadic presumably lets you avoid having to tell the girl that you're not the serious dating type? Surely it's kind of implied by the fact that you'll only be in their city for X number of months.

You haven't truly ghosted until you've ghosted across a country's borders.

And yeah, most of the time it is implied that you are not long term. I keep contact with lots of girls, in case I go back, but things are usually NSA.
 
I'm assuming you're not talking about dating.

I was in a very similar situation. Extremely religious upbringing, emotional baggage, virgin until late 20's...Everything might seem scary now, but that fear fades fast. You start learning what various signs mean and how to properly react to them.

Actually I am haha. I just have no clue what to pick up on in terms of social/physical cues, how to respond in certain situations, how to not freeze when I should act, etc. I'm assuming nothing can really teach me that besides experience, but it'd be nice to figure it out beforehand lol

You weren't really in a relationship. An hour is nothing..

Maybe a little more context since you assumed a whole lot of bullshit from not much info - neither of us could drive at the time at all. That definitely limited our relationship in that the only times we were together was when we were in group situations when one of us was picked up. My disaffection wasn't public yet so as far as family and religious friends were concerned I wasn't even supposed to be dating her since she was outside of my faith. It was a young and stupid relationship in a funky phase of my life. So sure, spending hours of the day every day talking to eachother and spending time together however we could (even virtually with MMOs and the like) for well over a year, considering eachother boyfriend and girlfriend, telling eachother we loved eachother and being inseparable in the handful of moments we were together doesn't count for shit because you said it didn't. Good to know.
 
So after breakfast at her place this morning I've met her sister three times, as well as her sister's boyfriend for the first time today. They're both really cool. She wants me to come to her dinner party tonight but I have a show that I'm going to so won't make it. But hey it's looking good.
 
Should anybody care, I reset my Tinder profile once again. I've got 12 matches in 2 days while using the same pictures I've always used. Really weird, but hey, it works! Don't get any notifications when I've got a new match but I'm not complaining.
 
If her last text was "I'm sure we can figure it out", then reply with "sure, let me know" and move on. If she doesn't get back to you within a few days, then you have your answer.

So it's been a week and no response...definitely feel like I'm getting ghosted.

Been reading here on how it's happened to many others...Is it ever okay to call a girl out on ghosting? I've been reading the Mark Manson book and there's a part where he talks about not putting up with games girls play.

Nothing rude, or whiney, but I was thinking something like: "Hey xxxxx, I know you must be busy with life, as am I, but I'm getting the feeling that you may not be all that excited about meeting again. This is fine but I'd rather you let me know instead of wondering."
 
Shouldn't have messaged, the lack of reply was her letting you know. No-one cuts off communication for a week if they are interested in meeting again.

Rule to follow in future, if you go three days with no contact after meeting, delete their info and move on. They weren't interested enough to meet again. It's not about games here. It's about picking up the not so subtle message of of lack of interest. Ask yourself, if you were interested in someone and wanted to see them again, would you wait a week? Would you ignore messages from the person you went on the date with and liked?

It's really very simple, not sure why it's hard to realise this. I don't mean to be a dick, but there's a profound lack of logical thinking being applied here and it's baffling...
 
Following up really isn't the end of the world.

A week later? It really is.

Have some self respect and take the hint. If you're waiting a week for one person while you're dating, you're doing it wrong.

That's the hard truth. You should be seeing/arranging multiple dates. Why are you being exclusive when you're just going through the early process of dating?

Honestly. Listen, she found someone better, that's what happened. No-one likes to hear it, but that's it. If she comes back, it's because you've shown yourself to be lacking in self confidence/verging on desperate and she will exploit that to feel better about herself while she looks for someone better again.

Stop this. Break the cycle. Move on. Get back on whatever dating site you're using and find someone who is actually interested in you.
 
Following up with one person and seeing multiple people aren't mutually exclusive.

If you're seeing/dating multiple people, that one person ghosting shouldn't even register. That the poster is thinking about calling her out is what's sad and wrong about this situation. There's no need to catch feelings over being ghosted. It happens. It sucks, it really does, but it is what it is.

Move on, don't come off as desperate. Just let it go.
 
So it's been a week and no response...definitely feel like I'm getting ghosted.
If it has been one week, I suggest moving on. Don't send that "call out" message, as that just seems really tacky.

I'm pretty sure the passing of one week is enough to get the point across. If she were truly interested, she would have responded to your requests of meeting by then.

One of the girls I was talking to is a very slow texter, so it made it super hard to communicate with her. Sometimes, she wouldn't respond for about a day or two. I felt bad because it seemed like she was ghosting me, but really, she just doesn't text or even use social media that much.

Anyways, leave it. Don't send a message showing resentment. It's useless for her and you.
 
50 sounds ideal. By that stage hopefully I'll be wealthy enough to compensate for the inevitable decline in my physical attractiveness.



Yeah I can definitely agree with you there. Seems like every time I agree to being exclusive with someone, one week later I meet some super cute girl who is prime dating material.

I gotta get out into the world like you guys. I'm lucky to live in a pretty international city with lots of travelers but being nomadic presumably lets you avoid having to tell the girl that you're not the serious dating type? Surely it's kind of implied by the fact that you'll only be in their city for X number of months.

I usually put in my profile where I am and for how long. So it should be pretty obvious I'm not looking to settle down with someone. And of course if someone asks what I'm looking for I'll tell them the truth. Short term romance, dating, friends/tour guide in the new city, etc.
I had a temporary job in Beijing awhile back and met a girl, told her I'm around for only 2 weeks. She basically said (paraphrase because it was Chinese) "good, we have enough time to enjoy the best parts of a new relationship and avoid all the bad stuff that comes at the end. When it's over all we will have is good memories of each other." And it's true, we got along great, had a two week "romance," then said a happy goodbye.

I know this kind of dating life doesn't work for everybody but it works really well for me. And you learn a whole hell of a lot about dating and about yourself by being out there in the world meeting new people all the time.

The only thing that sucks, and I'm sure zackie has seen this too, is when you tell someone you'll only be around for x amount of time and don't want anything serious, and they start dating you... But then later they decide they want it to be serious. They thought they could convince you to be serious and commit to them and never leave. Then you deal with drama. Luckily you can easily leave, it's still a pain though. I guess that's why zackie ghosts across international boundaries.
 
You're taking this too seriously. He wants to follow up because none of the advice in this topic is having any effect on him, and he needs to learn for himself. What he's doing is not harassment, and the worst possible scenario is a girl who quote "shouldn't even register" thinks he's desperate. This really isn't the end of the world, and isn't worthy of a rant on ghosting.
Its the mindset of it all. The poster in question should be thinking I don't give a shit if she ghosted on me, I'm off to meet other girls. Instead, he wants to act like the girl's mom or dad would and lecture her. Nothing will change, she will just ignore that text as well. Or, she'll be embarrassed and respond with some random OMG, am so busy with skool these dayz!!!11 text as an excuse. Its a real exercise in futility.
 
Ask yourself, if you were interested in someone and wanted to see them again, would you wait a week?

Yes, this so much. If you have other options you wouldn't even really care about one girl note getting back to you. About response time, I make a bit of an exception for online dating in cases where we haven't met yet (as I certainly wouldn't expect someone to make me a priority at that stage), but after that if she doesn't respond I just move on.

I just had a great date Friday with someone who took a week to reply one time, but now that we've met I wouldn't put up with that or try to follow up to a non-response. (She did text me immediately after she got home saying what a good time she had, which is a good sign though).

I had another date yesterday where a couple was breaking up next to us, lol. aaaawkward.
 
Alright guys so I've never been in this situation before so i need opinions on what you would do.
I met this girl online, we talked for a few days at the end of January and we went on a great date (she deleted her account after the date) in early February before school started and now its been 6 weeks since the first date and i'm still waiting for her to have time for a second date.

She's taking four English courses for her major (it's her last semester) and has like 14 books to read for assignments and such but you would think that if she liked me she would make time for a second date (i totally would).

Under normal circumstances i would have totally moved on since her not picking a date for the second date tells me that she's not interested anymore but the thing is that we text/snapchat/etc like every day or two and she initiates the conversations most of the time. I asked her if she actually wanted to go out anymore and she said she really really does but she's so busy with school and work and the next time she'll be free for sure is near the ending of the semester.

Talking to her almost every day is great and i really like this girl but having to wait until the semester ends in two months seems like too much of a wait. What would you guys do?

TL;DR - How much is too long of a wait for a second date before moving on to someone else?
 
I know this kind of dating life doesn't work for everybody but it works really well for me. And you learn a whole hell of a lot about dating and about yourself by being out there in the world meeting new people all the time.

The only thing that sucks, and I'm sure zackie has seen this too, is when you tell someone you'll only be around for x amount of time and don't want anything serious, and they start dating you... But then later they decide they want it to be serious. They thought they could convince you to be serious and commit to them and never leave. Then you deal with drama. Luckily you can easily leave, it's still a pain though. I guess that's why zackie ghosts across international boundaries.

"Save the drama for your mama"

I need an index card with that translated into every major language.

So it's been a week and no response...definitely feel like I'm getting ghosted.

Been reading here on how it's happened to many others...Is it ever okay to call a girl out on ghosting? I've been reading the Mark Manson book and there's a part where he talks about not putting up with games girls play.

Nothing rude, or whiney, but I was thinking something like: "Hey xxxxx, I know you must be busy with life, as am I, but I'm getting the feeling that you may not be all that excited about meeting again. This is fine but I'd rather you let me know instead of wondering."

You didn't learn the right lessons from the book, then.

Following up really isn't the end of the world.

It's indicative of the "I need closure" mindset so many in here have. You don't need closure. You wanting that after one or two means that you're already super dependent on that person. It isn't healthy in the modern dating world. As Miles said, you should be dating or attempting to date multiple women at any time until things get serious. At that point, they shouldn't be ghosting you unless you act creepy or scary.

Edit: to the guy above - not even a week. In fact, you should already have been talking and meeting other girls. You should have moved on from her a long time ago and when she gets time, meet her.
 
Talking to her almost every day is great and i really like this girl but having to wait until the semester ends in two months seems like too much of a wait. What would you guys do?

At minimum, pursue other girls. Don't give up another 2-3 months waiting for this girl.

Generally, a girl who'll chat you up in text but won't meet just likes the attention. She couldn't find three consecutive hours in the past month to have a date?
 
At minimum, pursue other girls. Don't give up another 2-3 months waiting for this girl.

Generally, a girl who'll chat you up in text but won't meet just likes the attention. She couldn't find three consecutive hours in the past month to have a date?

Yeah, it's total nonsense. She doesn't want to meet you. Move on or write her a rap song and hope things work out.

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She doesn't want to meet you. Move on or write her a rap song and hope things work out.

I mean we already met. We're going to an event in a few weeks but we're both going with our friends as well so it's not a proper "date". Unfortunately i don't rap but i'll try writing something inspired by The Cure.
 
I mean we already met. We're going to an event in a few weeks but we're both going with our friends as well so it's not a proper "date". Unfortunately i don't rap but i'll try writing something inspired by The Cure.

Take your pick:

She doesn't want to meet you again.
She doesn't want to date you.

2nd is probably accurate. Please do yourself a favor and move on!
 
Alright guys so I've never been in this situation before so i need opinions on what you would do.
I met this girl online, we talked for a few days at the end of January and we went on a great date (she deleted her account after the date) in early February before school started and now its been 6 weeks since the first date and i'm still waiting for her to have time for a second date.

She's taking four English courses for her major (it's her last semester) and has like 14 books to read for assignments and such but you would think that if she liked me she would make time for a second date (i totally would).

Under normal circumstances i would have totally moved on since her not picking a date for the second date tells me that she's not interested anymore but the thing is that we text/snapchat/etc like every day or two and she initiates the conversations most of the time. I asked her if she actually wanted to go out anymore and she said she really really does but she's so busy with school and work and the next time she'll be free for sure is near the ending of the semester.

Talking to her almost every day is great and i really like this girl but having to wait until the semester ends in two months seems like too much of a wait. What would you guys do?

TL;DR - How much is too long of a wait for a second date before moving on to someone else?
See other women till she has time for you.
 
I read bits of a book about the nice guys and I think I am one. Perhaps that's the reason (or at least one of them) that the girls I have approached rejected me. So, any tips on how to stop being a nice guy?
 
How are you defining "Nice guy"?

Judging from the book's info, the nice guy is someone who tries very much to help other people, so he will be accepted by them. I do that, and I don't think it's healthy and effective to get what I want. Agreeing with everyone is another characterisitic, but I don't think I do that, or I don't do that very often at least.
 
It's doubtful, but you guys may remember me talking about a girl I met back in October/November. We went on a date, for drinks and then to the movies, and it went really well. We liked each other, got along well, were comfortable, etc.

However, she also has mental illness issues and decided that it wouldn't be fair to herself or to me if she entered into a relationship. She wanted to take some time to work on herself, and said that maybe one day she'd be ready. She asked me to be patient.

We've remained friends on social media, but hadn't talked much. She sent me a message 2 months ago, though, saying she missed talking to me (via text, I guess), and I replied saying "Likewise." I guess she didn't see it, though, as she apologized when she eventually replied. She said she wanted to go out again, this time on her (something she'd mentioned doing in the past). I said sure, and that I'd been thinking about asking her, but didn't know her thoughts.

That was over a week ago. I didn't make specific plans with her, though, as I figured I'd let her tell me when she's ready. Then, a family emergency hit, and that took priority. Things are better now, though. Thankfully.

Yesterday, I saw that I had missed her birthday, and sent her a belated message, apologizing for missing it (it wasn't my fault or a big deal, but still). She said thanks much, then sent me another message asking me if I thought she was fat. She was having a bad self esteem night.

I said no, and that, "I think you're really attractive, tbh." She said that made her feel a lot better, then said we need to go out again. I said yes. She also asked if I was still on POF, as she thought I'd deleted my profile because she hadn't seen it. I guess she reactivated hers, and is getting messages for hookups, but wants something meaningful. I said we're both looking for the same thing.

This is the girl who's 5-6 years younger, btw.

Anyways, I'm tempted to just send her a message saying, "I think we should both delete our accounts and start something meaningful together." But I doubt that's a good idea.
 
Anyways, I'm tempted to just send her a message saying, "I think we should both delete our accounts and start something meaningful together." But I doubt that's a good idea.

That suggestion the first thing I've ever seen you write that has confidence and authority in it. Do it.
 
Judging from the book's info, the nice guy is someone who tries very much to help other people, so he will be accepted by them. I do that, and I don't think it's healthy and effective to get what I want. Agreeing with everyone is another characterisitic, but I don't think I do that, or I don't do that very often at least.
Unfortunately, a lot of people mistakenly associate being easy-going or just a generally good-hearted disposition with spinelessness or being a "nice guy."

I think I get pegged in that hole all the time, even tho it's dead wrong. I don't act the way I do to get what I want or kiss ass, I do it because I genuinely enjoy making people smile.

But that's not "sexy."
 
OCD, are you prepared to deal with the constant ups and downs? If you decide to make it more meaningful, you will become the person she focuses those ups and downs on. Are you mentally prepared to deal with that?

Unfortunately, a lot of people mistakenly associate being easy-going or just a generally good-hearted disposition with spinelessness or being a "nice guy."

I think I get pegged in that hole all the time, even tho it's dead wrong. I don't act the way I do to get what I want or kiss ass, I do it because I genuinely enjoy making people smile.

But that's not "sexy."

There's plenty of people who find it sexy, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The problem is as you mentioned that people find it hard to distinguish good hearted and a ye person who only agrees to get something. That's where opinions come into play, make your opinions known and stand up for what you believe in.
 
Nothing rude, or whiney, but I was thinking something like: "Hey xxxxx, I know you must be busy with life, as am I, but I'm getting the feeling that you may not be all that excited about meeting again. This is fine but I'd rather you let me know instead of wondering."

Never heard of that book but that message is just awkward, you should just take the hint and move on. Self respect.
 
Quick question, what determines someone on badoo to cost a lot of money to chat too? Is it based on how popular they are? How much they chat, how many views and so on? Or is it just simply to weed out the ugly and poor guys like me?

Some don't cost anything to chat to and few cost around 20-30 credits while some cost a whooping 500-1000 credits which to me is a lot of money
 
Regarding the "my ex gf is now dating my former best friend" or something like that, there's something I'd like to get off my chest.

See, the thing is that a friend introduced me to his brother and the girl he was dating during a birthday party and they were pretty cool to me, so we became friends.
Thing is, he was chill with me, but a terrible boyfriend to her and well, they ended their relationship two times in a year and a half, and I even set up a chance for him to get things straight with her.

Then back in November, she couldn't take it anymore and decided to end the relationship, I won't go into detail, but seriously, even though he was my friend he was an absolute asshole to her. Still kept contact with both of them.

Later, while he's bragging about how he's fucking "better women" than her ex and found out he cheated on her several times, she told me out of the blue to come to a Christmas party with some of her friends. I showed up in one of those photos and my friend ordered me to "stay away from her dude, that's not cool bro".

I tell him she's my friend in the same way he's mine. Plus, fuck you, no one gets to tell me who can I speak to or not. Then, some stuff happened and now we're dating.

Thing is, I was a part of a circle of friends with him and his brother, but decided to stop showing up because they though it was "uncool" to be friends with the ex.

Now we're dating. And those people hate me. And I don't give a flying fuck.

It's funny how some people go with the "bro-code" when it means "I dumped her but she still belongs to me" mentality. Fuck off with that shit.

Watched Kung Fu Panda 3 last night, had dinner, kissed a lot. I lost many friends during this bold move, but if you pretty much did anything in your power to drive her away, then challenge someone for daring to keep a relationship for the "brocode", you can go fuck yourself.
 
Alright guys so I've never been in this situation before so i need opinions on what you would do.
I met this girl online, we talked for a few days at the end of January and we went on a great date (she deleted her account after the date) in early February before school started and now its been 6 weeks since the first date and i'm still waiting for her to have time for a second date.

She's taking four English courses for her major (it's her last semester) and has like 14 books to read for assignments and such but you would think that if she liked me she would make time for a second date (i totally would).

Under normal circumstances i would have totally moved on since her not picking a date for the second date tells me that she's not interested anymore but the thing is that we text/snapchat/etc like every day or two and she initiates the conversations most of the time. I asked her if she actually wanted to go out anymore and she said she really really does but she's so busy with school and work and the next time she'll be free for sure is near the ending of the semester.

Talking to her almost every day is great and i really like this girl but having to wait until the semester ends in two months seems like too much of a wait. What would you guys do?

TL;DR - How much is too long of a wait for a second date before moving on to someone else?

Do not keep engaging this girl.

She's subconsciously using you for emotional support. I say subconsciously, because she's not being directly malicious about it. At least not entirely. I mean, YOU know you like her, as clearly demonstrated by you asking her out. She KNOWS you like her, but she hopes her indirect acts of deflection (you know, the every attempt at making your relationship strictly platonic) will steer you two clear from the destination you set out.

What I mean is, she's just not that into you. You see that gut feeling you feel? "if she liked me she would make time for a second date (i totally would)" is correct. But, as is the nature in the hopeful pursuer such as yourself, this: "but the thing is that we text/snapchat/etc like every day or two and she initiates the conversations most of the time." is your ego masking what your gut already told you. She enjoying your company does not mean your are a romantic candidate.

In other words: she wants to be left (romantically) alone, but not to be left by herself. If you can catch my drift.

MOVE ON. Talk to other girls. (Ironically enough, this act may just give you the opening you want...)


Judging from the book's info, the nice guy is someone who tries very much to help other people, so he will be accepted by them. I do that, and I don't think it's healthy and effective to get what I want. Agreeing with everyone is another characterisitic, but I don't think I do that, or I don't do that very often at least.

Are you reading No More Mr Nice Guy? That's a great book. Everyone here should read it.

Funnily enough, nice guys are not always nice. They are not very accountable. "Oh she doesn't like me because she only likes jerks!". They never ask what exactly does she see in these so called 'jerks'. Nice guy are too ego invested into their own delusion (a fabrication partly defined by society and Disney movies). It's not just hoping people like them by always agreeing, it's also more of a self-validation mechanism; it's as if other women's presence (of any kind) serves as some sort of positive affirmation of their persona.

You'll know you're no longer a Nice Guy™ when you are able to answer the simplest of all questions: "What do women really want?" correctly.


Regarding the "my ex gf is now dating my former best friend" or something like that, there's something I'd like to get off my chest.

See, the thing is that a friend introduced me to his brother and the girl he was dating during a birthday party and they were pretty cool to me, so we became friends.
Thing is, he was chill with me, but a terrible boyfriend to her and well, they ended their relationship two times in a year and a half, and I even set up a chance for him to get things straight with her.

Then back in November, she couldn't take it anymore and decided to end the relationship, I won't go into detail, but seriously, even though he was my friend he was an absolute asshole to her. Still kept contact with both of them.

Later, while he's bragging about how he's fucking "better women" than her ex and found out he cheated on her several times, she told me out of the blue to come to a Christmas party with some of her friends. I showed up in one of those photos and my friend ordered me to "stay away from her dude, that's not cool bro".

I tell him she's my friend in the same way he's mine. Plus, fuck you, no one gets to tell me who can I speak to or not. Then, some stuff happened and now we're dating.

Thing is, I was a part of a circle of friends with him and his brother, but decided to stop showing up because they though it was "uncool" to be friends with the ex.

Now we're dating. And those people hate me. And I don't give a flying fuck.

It's funny how some people go with the "bro-code" when it means "I dumped her but she still belongs to me" mentality. Fuck off with that shit.

Watched Kung Fu Panda 3 last night, had dinner, kissed a lot. I lost many friends during this bold move, but if you pretty much did anything in your power to drive her away, then challenge someone for daring to keep a relationship for the "brocode", you can go fuck yourself.

Pretty clear crucial details were left ambiguous on purpose. Wonder why. As such, my observation will be based on what was explicitly written. But I can tell your relationship is not going to last that long anyway. *shrugs*

You were willing to sacrifice connections for a girl. Huh. I do not question the acts so much as as the man behind them.

I ask, because you didn't mentioned in the post, but did you ever ask your friend if it was Ok to hang with her? I mean, is it really unheard of to befriend a guy, he breaks up with his GF, and you suddenly hang out with her and that not seen as socially iffy? Even with genders reversed that's not really unheard of; so this not BroCode specific. Anyway, fuck that guy sure, but the idea should be that your life is so abundant with girls (you know, because you are so awesome), that you do not need to "seize" the unlikely and potentially socially looked-down-upon opportunity to just to be with this one girl. If I was a betting man, I'd bet you went to this party already with your mind partly made up (using the BF's past indiscretions as a catalyst), even if you're not willing to admit it. It's how our brain woks, after all.

Anyway, you watched Kung Fu Panda 3 and made out? Boy, was that bold move worth it. I'll see you here in couple of months. :P
 
The bro code is dumb and society is dumb if they think dating a friends ex is unacceptable.

As I said in that thread, your relationship is over for a reason, whatever that reason may have been. Don't look back. Who gives a shit who your ex dates! you broke up which means she's not "the one." That's a good thing to know! Wish your bro luck maybe he'll have better results with her, and you'll be enjoying other, new, hopefully more compatible women in the mean time.
 
In my circle of friends, we would never date another's ex, but then again, I don't use the term "friend" as loosely as most and I see people who's "friends" would throw the other off a bridge for just the chance at talking to a girl

nothing wrong with bro-code, just depends on who is involved
 
In my circle of friends, we would never date another's ex, but then again, I don't use the term "friend" as loosely as most and I see people who's "friends" would throw the other off a bridge for just the chance at talking to a girl

nothing wrong with bro-code, just depends on who is involved

Maybe I am emotionless (or perhaps way too positive) but if my friend got with my ex and was happy I would be happy too. Not sure why it's considered as throwing a friend off the bridge. As soon as your break up, move on! If she dumped you she did you a favor! You can meet girls that are better suited for you!
 
Regarding the "my ex gf is now dating my former best friend" or something like that, there's something I'd like to get off my chest.

See, the thing is that a friend introduced me to his brother and the girl he was dating during a birthday party and they were pretty cool to me, so we became friends.
Thing is, he was chill with me, but a terrible boyfriend to her and well, they ended their relationship two times in a year and a half, and I even set up a chance for him to get things straight with her.

Then back in November, she couldn't take it anymore and decided to end the relationship, I won't go into detail, but seriously, even though he was my friend he was an absolute asshole to her. Still kept contact with both of them.

Later, while he's bragging about how he's fucking "better women" than her ex and found out he cheated on her several times, she told me out of the blue to come to a Christmas party with some of her friends. I showed up in one of those photos and my friend ordered me to "stay away from her dude, that's not cool bro".

I tell him she's my friend in the same way he's mine. Plus, fuck you, no one gets to tell me who can I speak to or not. Then, some stuff happened and now we're dating.

Thing is, I was a part of a circle of friends with him and his brother, but decided to stop showing up because they though it was "uncool" to be friends with the ex.

Now we're dating. And those people hate me. And I don't give a flying fuck.

It's funny how some people go with the "bro-code" when it means "I dumped her but she still belongs to me" mentality. Fuck off with that shit.

Watched Kung Fu Panda 3 last night, had dinner, kissed a lot. I lost many friends during this bold move, but if you pretty much did anything in your power to drive her away, then challenge someone for daring to keep a relationship for the "brocode", you can go fuck yourself.

Reading this I don't really believe this played out as innocently as you have described. I'm not a believer in "you can't date my ex" because I think it implies that there is still hope for your relationship or there is some link (and there really isn't) but people have feeling and they express them differently. It would be stupid to think going after your friends ex girl is a totally logically sound idea with no consequences or legitimate issues attached to it.

I encourage you to read what you wrote from a objective and none involved viewpoint and actually believe any of what you typed as innocuous or innocent. Cause I don't buy it at all. There is no way someone you genuinely like as a friend you wouldn't have any discussion or interaction about things you are doing with their ex. And there is definitely nothing healthy about losing a shit ton of friends over one girl. (though from how you describe I doubt you were actually really good friends with any of these people)
 
Maybe I am emotionless (or perhaps way too positive) but if my friend got with my ex and was happy I would be happy too. Not sure why it's considered as throwing a friend off the bridge. As soon as your break up, move on! If she dumped you she did you a favor! You can meet girls that are better suited for you!

Didn't I spend last Thanksgiving with one of your ex's?

😎😎😎
 
She stood me up the next day anyway 😫

Edit: wait, I think she stood me up for you...

Oh yeah forgot that girl hahah. I was thinking the one we had pizza with. That other girl I just had one date with. She's all yours. And the next day she didn't come to me don't worry.
 
Pretty clear crucial details were left ambiguous on purpose. Wonder why. As such, my observation will be based on what was explicitly written. But I can tell your relationship is not going to last that long anyway. *shrugs*

Reading this I don't really believe this played out as innocently as you have described.
You're both right, I wrote this in a hurry. Won't go too long into detail but here's the thing, as a friend of the couple, I heard about either sides of the problem and honestly, my former friend didn't do a good job at presenting his.

Now. I don't think I wrote this in a "but I didn't do anything wrong!" side. That group of friends went toxic as fuck when one of them got into a relationship with a girl who wanted to know every goddamn detail about every one of us. When she couldn't get any info on the breakup (which I did have, and it annoyed her), they pretty much ditched the girl I'm now dating from the group. I didn't like that so I stopped hanging around with them.

And there is definitely nothing healthy about losing a shit ton of friends over one girl. (though from how you describe I doubt you were actually really good friends with any of these people)
Aaaaand here's the winner. When our, once happy group of friends got weird because of this girl, who always organized all the meetups and all, I wasn't comfortable around them anymore. The trigger was the "why you're still talking to her?" question from that girl.

I guess I didn't go into too much detail because I have been quite happy during the last couple of weeks. During that Christmas party she introduced me to her friends and they're pretty cool people. While the "losing friends isn't healthy part" is definitely true, I got to meet a whole new group of people who I am more comfortable with.

Would I have done this when the group was all good and happy? Of course not. But when things got bad, and now I'm being asked "why are you still talking to her?", guess I'm glad I bailed.

And the "was your friend okay with you hanging with her?" question is valid, but I guess you could say, "was she okay with you still hanging out with him?" too, which she didn't mind at all.

In the end, I don't feel bad about ditching people who feel like they can order me or control who I can speak with. I'm not saying I'm the good guy or that I didn't do anything perceived as shitty, but if I feel good with the new group of friends I'm hanging with, and I'm dating this really, REALLY amazing girl, then it was worth it.

Anyway, you watched Kung Fu Panda 3 and made out? Boy, was that bold move worth it. I'll see you here in couple of months. :P
Ouch, you trying to hit a nerve or something? Nice try, guess I won't let her pick the movie next time.
 
What's load of shit.

Except the assertive part.

Thinking about what hypothetical women want is a waste of time. Focus on doing the things you want to do in life and a partner that is and suits what you want.
 
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