We need at least two scenes of Clark talking to Martha about no-killing for the first taking of a life to have any impact
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We need at least two scenes of Clark talking to Martha about no-killing for the first taking of a life to have any impact
Discotheque
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Ferry scene is a bit of a bore but I'll take that batman/gordon/two face finale any day over the final acts we've been having in any superhero movie since.
Also imo although Ledger was far and away the standout of the movie I thought Gary Oldman and Eckhart were great as well.
Bale and Caine were good too.
schlongdog
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Well of course, and I knew some people liked it (which is absolutely fine btw, I thought it was shit mind), but I've just read a post saying it's one of the most important films of the decade....
Smokey_Run
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No doubt. One of my favorite scenes in the movie. Eckhart really nailed it.
Different strokes for different folks. I know there are a bunch of important films of cinema that I think are complete shit.
brandonh83
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I feel the exact same way. I was the only one in my friends circle that came out feeling like most of it was great but then the last act really brought it down. It felt like a different movie in some ways. Fortunately the actual climax was pretty great but everything from pretty much the hospital to when Gordon's kid is taken by Dent is just... it's not bad just tonally different from the rest of the movie. The direction, editing and cinematography seemed to get super lazy.
The first two acts of TDK though are mind-blowing, however because of that dip in quality I'd put Begins over it and I'd wonder if I would even put Rises over it. For me Rises is the one that has grown on me the most. I still think the ending was too in your face with Alfred actually seeing Bruce and Selina at the cafe, and the climax with the bomb particularly Cotillard was pretty awful, but everything else was mostly fantastic.
-Plasma Reus-
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Since we're all on that devil's dandruff in this thread.
I think I should come forward and just say it.
Eli Roth has made two of the best movies in the past year.
Knock Knock and Green Inferno are some fantastic film making.
I feel as though Knock Knock will be appreciated more. Makes sense though, it is the better movie.
I think I should come forward and just say it.
Eli Roth has made two of the best movies in the past year.
Knock Knock and Green Inferno are some fantastic film making.
I feel as though Knock Knock will be appreciated more. Makes sense though, it is the better movie.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Ha, I was there with my sister. Was just gonna get a drink in Leicester Square and we saw this was happening so we went into the crowd pen and I got a few snaps of Henry Cavill and left.Superman is such a jobber.
Dash_Riprock
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Is it some sort of unwritten law here that any MoS-related thread here inevitably shits on the Donner films?
BronsonLee
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LAST GIRL WINS
Father_Brain
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Yeah. We're told through Cavill's expression, the musical score, etc. that it's supposed to be a huge, dramatic turning point for the character that Will Forever Change Him, but literally nothing before or after that moment supports that.
No question, there would have been some backlash against that plot point no matter what, but the real problem is that Snyder and Goyer attempted to imbue it with an emotional weight that the rest of the film simply can't justify.
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Lord Virgin
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He is right, those movies don't hold up at all. Nostalgia is one hell of a thing.
For everyone who doesn't like MoS.
You should check out super girl. The show captures that superfeel perfectly.
In the previous episode she helpes young kid who was being bullied. And that's how the show just opens.
Man of Steel superman would have beat up the kid and joined the bullies. Then went to his parents house and shat on his mother's front porch.
Meh. Supes was already Supes when Kara decided to put on the suit in this series. Nothing special about it. Though I still love the show, it mirrors Donner's universe way way too much....Down to the red krytonite bar scene and the fortress of solitude. Best thing about the show is Martian Manhunter.
I like the realistic take of MoS when Supes reveals himself to the world. What would happen if Superman really existed?
I like that he doesn't know how to be this super being.
The main issue with MoS is the pacing and editing. There are some great flashbacks that fall short due to their placement in the film.
1978 was a long time ago....and comic book movies have evolved as well as the storytelling in comics. The only thing bad about the Donner films is when new productions of Supes want to go back to that well for inspiration when there is so much more modern material out there.
DoctorFling
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I think we've spoken about every superhero movie ever made in this thread. Thanks for reminding me how good the Rocketeer is, might rewatch that when I'm finished Daredevil S2.
PhantomZone
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Whaa? The flying in MOS was awesome. Felt like there was power behind it.
I would have rathered they do similar shots but us looking at it from the reverse point of view - looks like they did it from that angle (not showing the face) to hide the fact that its cgi. And when they do show it from that perspective we are treated to an extreme close up of goofy Kent face
shira
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AmaterasuOni
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This is some clever backwards psychology right?
Knock Knock was fun, Keanu was just like Nicolas Cage. That overacting, that mannerism! Awesome! Horrible movie though. I enjoyed it.
Green Inferno is a knockoff from Cannibal Holocaust and Cannibal Ferox. Green Inferno is bad. It's not even so bad it's good, it's just bad. I didn't enjoy it.
Glass Shark
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This movie was like the opposite of The Force Awakens for me. With TFA, the more I thought about it and analyzed it, the stronger I felt it was, and trying to poke holes in the story required logical leaps that I wasn't willing to take.
It's been less than 24 hours since I've seen BvS and I'm already questioning the entire plot and thinking how little it makes sense. And I'm not sure that the spectacle of it really makes up for those faults.
I don't think I'd go out of my way to watch it again.
It's been less than 24 hours since I've seen BvS and I'm already questioning the entire plot and thinking how little it makes sense. And I'm not sure that the spectacle of it really makes up for those faults.
I don't think I'd go out of my way to watch it again.
How man How??????????
Thats just one scene,
Has anything Marvel made you care as much as this one scene? ( I like cinematic Marvel by the way, just not a lot of their stuff)
Maybe I can explain it better. And this is coming from a huge Superman fan. The main reason a lot of people hated the movie was because there wasn't scenes like this:
This is what Superman is about when it comes down to it. And not having these scenes is doing a disservice to the character.
Sibersk Esto
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Reeve had a better screaming scene then Cavill
Discotheque
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Quicksilver wearing a rush t shirt lol, dat on the nose irony
Goofy shot but I guarantee this ends up being a cool action sequence
Bobby Roberts
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He's not right. The fact both Superman and Superman II are corny and broken in their own uniquely '70s way doesn't mean they suck. They're both good movies (II is more broken than the first is, but that makes sense seeing as they cannibalized parts of it to get The Movie where it needed to be on release), even if you don't take into account their cultural context. They're fun.
I would not go as far as saying is shit but is pretty much unwatchable for me now, the cornyness reaches a level that my eyes cant roll back enough and starts to give me a headache.
They are a product of that time.
Because TFA is weak so it could only become stronger with time.
Seems Snyder gonna Snyder. I learned my lesson with Man Of Steel. I'm not giving that dude the benefit of the doubt any more.
Hype levels for Batman Bin Suparman are at an all-time low. I got my tix for a Thursday matinee showing, I hope to see some good set pieces, and that's it.
Hype levels for Batman Bin Suparman are at an all-time low. I got my tix for a Thursday matinee showing, I hope to see some good set pieces, and that's it.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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The first one is great. The rest are pretty corny.
(the first is corny too, but it's the perfect mix of corny and serious)
thehypocrite
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Joke post? You found no flaws on TFA? Incredible mental gymnastics here.
Digital-Hero
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How man How??????????
Thats just one scene,
Has anything Marvel made you care as much as this one scene? ( I like cinematic Marvel by the way, just not a lot of their stuff)
I loved that scene. I was literally saying "Kill him!" And he did.
Smokey_Run
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I tried to watch them and the Burton films about 10 years ago and I thought they were all terrible. I totally understand how they would have been amazing experiences when they were released, but too much time has passed, at least for me.
Freewheelin'
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You say that, but IM3's Mandarin twist is still the most ballsy move in a superhero film I can think of.
They are very,very cheesy I guess as a nostalgia bump they're good. But as actual modern watching experiences Hmm not so much.
These images perfectly captures why Superman is so damn great. It's not that he is superstrong or superfast, it's that he inspires other people to be better, stronger.
the Burton films still hold up IMO
ViewtifulJC
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you know who's corny
Superman
Superman
Discotheque
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Heh funnily enough although I ended up still liking star wars (7.5/10 imo) it had the usual JJ Abrams problem where after an hour removed from the film my opinion on it declined
It's a big problem with a lot of blockbusters for me though, not just Abrams movies. They don't hold up well to scrutiny.
It's a big problem with a lot of blockbusters for me though, not just Abrams movies. They don't hold up well to scrutiny.
Father_Brain
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That's overstating it, but it's an awkwardly plotted, campy (in a bad way), and generally dated film. Reeve is great, no question, but I find the fixation on it as the reason so many people hate MoS pretty annoying.
Also, the infamous "can you read my mind" scene might be worse than anything in MoS.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Not Zack Snyders Superman
The Burtman movies are really cheesy. It's kinda funny how once they were considered "dark". Even the Batnolans are starting to lose their luster, to me anyway. I'm starting to believe this entire genre ages like cheese.
BronsonLee
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Half an hour until we get welcomed to hell
Glass Shark
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You literally just said words that are not anywhere in my post. TFA had a few flaws, but the core structure of it is solid. But that's beside the point. A mere hour after seeing BvS last night I was already thinking, "Hey, wait a minute..." The hype left that quickly.
It's a rushed movie that DC was desperate to get out the door to make way for their take on a cinematic universe that already feels soulless.
Dash_Riprock
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Don't make me post the pic again. You all know which one.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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This thread isn't the devil, it's PRACTICE
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