BronsonLee
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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain
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Order was pretty bad though
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Yup, said basically the same thing earlier. Always had little faith but I figured big budget stupid action alone would get it into the low 60's easily.
Shadow Ranger
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Man, those scores... I expected bad but wow. That's worse than I thought.
I'm still seeing it and will judge myself. I just remind myself;
Starters - BvS
Main Course - Civil War
Optional Dessert - X Men...
The main course is where I expect my enjoyment to be fulfilled and maxed out.
I'm still seeing it and will judge myself. I just remind myself;
Starters - BvS
Main Course - Civil War
Optional Dessert - X Men...
The main course is where I expect my enjoyment to be fulfilled and maxed out.
BewareTheBatsie
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All y'all going on about this movies reviews, and I'm feeling like I need to rewatch Speed Racer so I can defend it some more.
Well sure but it's very unlikely that the film's being miss-understood because it isn't colourful and fun (Nolan's Batman films weren't bundles of joy and were appreciated as such). It's pretty evident that it's just flat and rather soulless (just like MoS and majority of Snyder films).
Ultimately, given the level of suspension of disbelief required by average non-comic reading punter with material like this whether serious or light in tone the film has to convince the audience and Synder simply doesn't produce that consistency of tone and character to achieve this.
Even when he has textbook classic material to work from like Watchmen he ends up with uneven tone and his actors often appear uncertain in their characters. In short he's poor at eliciting great performances and comic book films need good, confident performances to convince.
I was surprised he got MoS job and I figured they'd drop him afterwards but I guess they misread the response and focused on the solid box office instead.
neoism
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yeah every SH movie should be R rated from here on out : p
Straight to DVD Sucker Punch 2 incoming.
Randomizer
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Well at least Batman is in good hands.
Ben Affleck as Director:
Argo - 96%
The Town - 93%
Gone Baby Gone - 94%
Ben Affleck as Director:
Argo - 96%
The Town - 93%
Gone Baby Gone - 94%
Discotheque
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blockbusters are no doubt. it's a shame that's how it is but when you have so much money on the line you have to cowtow to audience popularity and reception.
it doesn't help that some risks are just straight shit like jupiter ascending and possibly this (can't really say unless I see it)
ramoisdead
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If only Warner Bros could've abandon this movie the way they abandoned PC gaming.
Like, I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean.
MoS was already one of the most divisive movies Warner put out. So divisive that they literally felt like they had to throw in Batman in order to get on audience's good sides again (like, I'm pretty sure Warner has an "in case of emergency" glass box somewhere in their offices with Batman in it). And if it turns out this movie is doing more of the same and seems to almost do worse, it's no wonder people are going to have cold feet about this entire thing.
Not talking just to you but people who are now bummed it's "bad". Why does more people saying it's bad than people saying it's good mean that's it's just now accepted that it's bad? I'm not trying to say that critical opinion is worthless, but even if we assume that the RT rating right now is final, over 40% of critics DIDN'T think it was a bad movie. 10,000 people on IMDB have given it an average rating it a 9.3 (and yes, I know that will go down by the time it officially releases).
I'm just saying that it's odd to just accept that it's bad when it's not close to universally hated.
Father_Brain
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Y'know, I really, honestly thought that this would get reviewed better than MoS did, especially with Goyer mostly gone. Not by much, but still.
I guess the next test is how critic-proof this is at the box office.
Who are you talking to?
NOLA_Gaffer
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I feel the worst for Warner Bros.
Marvel has managed to knock out a dozen films and a half-dozen TV series in the last ten years in a shared cinematic universe but all Warner Bros. has been able to manage in that same time is a single Superman film of arguably average quality.
And now they've thrown hundreds of millions of dollars a big budget tentpole superhero film and it's potentially terrible. How does the Marvel guys make it look so easy?
Well, thankfully Batman is a big enough draw on name alone that the film will do well enough regardless of quality.
Marvel has managed to knock out a dozen films and a half-dozen TV series in the last ten years in a shared cinematic universe but all Warner Bros. has been able to manage in that same time is a single Superman film of arguably average quality.
And now they've thrown hundreds of millions of dollars a big budget tentpole superhero film and it's potentially terrible. How does the Marvel guys make it look so easy?
Well, thankfully Batman is a big enough draw on name alone that the film will do well enough regardless of quality.
I know this is such an absurd thought, but maybe you guys should watch the movie before deeming it utter shit based on other peoples opinions.
Some of my favourite movies of all time have a <50 tomato score. And a lot which are average get decent scores, like the 2 Thor movies.
Some of my favourite movies of all time have a <50 tomato score. And a lot which are average get decent scores, like the 2 Thor movies.
MetroidPrimeRib
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I similarly feel bad for this gigantic corporation.
superdeluxe
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Who would have that through all of this, the best part of this movie would be ben affleck. I remember when he was hired, how many people freaked out
Just a general trend I'm observing.
I have no idea what you're saying here. You're insurmountably happy that it's reviewing poorly as a DC comics fan because you get to leave the theater shaking your head in disbelief?
What about the DC TV universe?
shira
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Not basing your cinematic universe around taking inspiration from an elseworlds Batman story is probably a decent starting point.
I'm still going to see the movie but my expectations are lower.
Where's that bingo chart?
bananafactory
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I don't feel bad for them.
They had a template set out for them, one that worked for another studio with a similar goal. But instead of taking time to build up characters and a universe we care about before eventually tying them together they tried to shortcut and jam way too much into a movie before knowing if it even worked separately.
Really think he has put superhero movies behind him at this point
Bobby Roberts
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this was good.
Plasticine
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FvJ and the first AvP are fun flicks. They know they're trashy monster mashups and never get pretentious about shit. Something Snyder, and WB in general, sounds like they could learn from. Plus you could probably film all three with the BvS budget and have enough left over for Paul W Anderson to squeeze out a Resident Evil movie or two.
superdeluxe
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I wonder what the consensus will be at RT
or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.
I just have to appreciate it for what it is now.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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What it means is don't go buy what the majority of critics score. Go by a critic that is aligned with your taste.
Roger Ebert was always the only critic that mattered, but he died, and I can't find a replacement.
Smokey_Run
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Marvel Studios just develops Marvel movies. Warner Bros is a film studio making a wide portfolio of films. If Feige was producing a bunch of different movies, the Marvel movies likely wouldn't have the same success.
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MetroidPrimeRib
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Which is why its baffling Snyder is attached to him because he runs counterpoint to the good Superman stories
Weren't they waiting for the Nolan trilogy to wrap up? TDKR came out in 2012 right? Same year as Avengers.
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