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Oh, that was you? Nice fedora.

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I can understand Age of Ultron and TDKR

I don't understand Age of Extinction and Alice in Wonderland getting A's

Even worse than age of extinction and ultron is stranger tides getting a b+ (the same score as fury road fwiw)

First pirates movie I couldn't finish which says a lot considering I saw the third

Audiences are a mistake....

Edit: omg Alice in Wonderland too.

Lmao at that fedora ether.
 
The idea is, if the movie flops, drastic changes will be made to make the next film better.

See: us fanboys cheering against ASM2. And then my avatar ;)

Yeah I don't understand this stance. If something is of poor quality why should we root for its success just because certain people are involved? If someone is on board to work on a movie as big as Batman vs Supes I'm sure their careers will survive.
 
It wasn't a good movie. People don't like it. Hell the only reason why it made so much money this weekend is that it's a crossover and that naturally sparks people's interests. That's the reason why I went out and saw it.
Can we stop with this nonsense?
 
Still trying to see Zootopia. My fiance keeps finding excuses not to go.

... I think she might fear that I'm a furry the more earnest I become to drag her to it.
 
It wasn't a good movie. People don't like it. Hell the only reason why it made so much money this weekend is that it's a crossover and that naturally sparks people's interests. That's the reason why I went out and saw it.

There was nothing wrong with the film. You didnt like it and maybe those in your social circle didnt like it. But that means nothing as there are plenty of people who did. I swear people on gaf (and other sites) thinks that their small internet echo chambers counts for "everyone".
 
There was nothing wrong with the film. You didnt like it and maybe those in your social circle didnt like it. But that means nothing as there are plenty of people who did. I swear people on gaf (and other sites) thinks that their small internet echo chambers counts for "everyone".
The negative buzz for BvS goes waaaaay beyond just GAF and other sites.
 
There was nothing wrong with the film. You didnt like it and maybe those in your social circle didnt like it. But that means nothing as there are plenty of people who did. I swear people on gaf (and other sites) thinks that their small internet echo chambers counts for "everyone".

Lol. Oh, there was PLENTY wrong with the film. But people can like a film in spite of its flaws and problems.

I mean, I can enjoy Mortal Kombat and Transformers while also acknowledging that huge chunks of those movies are objectively trashy, stupid, and really poorly done. But just because those parts suck and critics (and many fans) hate it doesn't mean I don't enjoy it in spite of its apparent flaws.
 
There was nothing wrong with the film. You didnt like it and maybe those in your social circle didnt like it. But that means nothing as there are plenty of people who did. I swear people on gaf (and other sites) thinks that their small internet echo chambers counts for "everyone".

lol
 
There was nothing wrong with the film. You didnt like it and maybe those in your social circle didnt like it. But that means nothing as there are plenty of people who did. I swear people on gaf (and other sites) thinks that their small internet echo chambers counts for "everyone".


I am totally with you on that, I enjoyed the movie despite flaws. I love neogaf and spend way to much time on this site but at times people here can be so cynical. A lot of gaf that didn't even see the movie were complaining on how bad it was.
 
I am totally with you on that, I enjoyed the movie despite flaws. I love neogaf and spend way to much time on this site but at times people here can be so cynical. A lot of gaf that didn't even see the movie were complaining on how bad it was.

Can we please stop doing this? A lot of people who did see the film were complaining. A lot of them. Myself included.

A lot of people who didn't see the film were also saying it couldn't be that bad and giving it high scores on Rotten Tomatoes before the film even came out.
 
Lol. Oh, there was PLENTY wrong with the film. But people can like a film in spite of its flaws and problems.

I mean, I can enjoy Mortal Kombat and Transformers while also acknowledging that huge chunks of those movies are objectively trashy, stupid, and really poorly done. But just because those parts suck and critics (and many fans) hate it doesn't mean I don't enjoy it in spite of its apparent flaws.

So what was ojectively wrong with the film that everyone can agree upon that was bad?
 
So..why do people want to fail this again ? I feel pretty bad tbh when reading comments like that. The movie might not be great or even good, but how it does is important for it's future. I am sure Justice League (2017) would've been Snyder's last movie anyway.
If it's successful, you can count on more movies like it.
 
Because your average movie goer actually cares about that or even knows what that is?

So nobody should give a shit then, not even critics? I went to see the film with people who barely know anything about films or superheroes, and even they flat out said "a lot of parts didn't make sense", which is almost always a problem of editing, even if most moviegoers don't know how to put it in cinematography words.
 
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Worked out so well for Transformers. Fanboys are so fun. All that matters is money.

Truly, the most positive thing anybody can say about Batman v Superman is that it's like Transformers.
 
So what was ojectively wrong with the film that everyone can agree upon that was bad?

There is nothing "everyone" will ever agree on. Even the Star Wars prequels have folks that defend it and even some people who legitimately love Jar-Jar Binks.

But SUBJECTIVELY, my OPINION, is that I had problems with the film's pacing and editing, such as a shocking lack of establishing shots, often bizarre and convoluted character behavior (such as Lois's actions near the end and Lex Luthor's actual goals), a mischaracterization of some of my favorite heroes (I was not particularly fond of Superman's portrayal or Batman's use of lethal force), the Justice League plugs I found to be inelegantly smashed into the film in the most blunt way possible (literally just watching someone else watch teaser trailers), the rather insufferable performance of Jesse Eisenberg (who seemed like the only one having a good time, even if he was grating beyond compare in the role), the utter debacle of CGI overload in the ending (especially harsh after I had just finished watching Daredevil on Netflix with so many practical fights with actual people with weight and physics), a generally joyless and dour tone throughout the entire film, and a bloated runtime with a weak script that left key players with little to do or work with, more concerned with setting the groundwork for movies to come instead of telling a cohesive single-entry installment.

There was far more I could criticize, but those were the things that I noticed, and I'm fairly certain are echoed elsewhere, by professional and casual critics alike, though I have not actually checked out. I just compared it to my college Filmography book and found the parts I felt didn't live up to the movie-making 101 rules, outside of select character bias (whether Batman kills or not is preference; if the film is good, it wouldn't matter if he commits "manslaughter" or not so long as the rest of the film is structurally sound).
 
Because your average movie goer actually cares about that or even knows what that is?

To quote Philip Seymour Hoffman, "The film is made in the editing room." You won't notice if it's done well, but you will if it's not. I haven't seen the film myself, but going by word of mouth, the film has some major issues with its editing, such as the alleged lack of establishing shots.
 
To quote Philip Seymour Hoffman, "The film is made in the editing room." You won't notice if it's done well, but you will if it's not. I haven't seen the film myself, but going by word of mouth, the film has some major issues with its editing, such as the alleged lack of establishing shots.
The movie feels like one big long cut with nothing settling down long enough to have a lasting impact.
 
Probably more ojectively good then bad.
I honestly think that depends on how technical a breakdown a person is willing to give. As I said there are things that work about the movie and what works works fine. Meanwhile there are just things that don't and just mess up the movie. I'm still trying to make heads or tails of Alexander Luthor. At times I enjoyed the levity he added to certain scenes, but then you have how crazy he is. I enjoyed his numerous mannerisms and ticks in certain scenes and found them irritating in others. Towards the end with his "The bells are ringing" monologue the dude right next to me bust out laughing. I can just picture Clancy Brown Lex Luthor asking this Lex Luthor, "The fuck is your problem son?"
 
I honestly think people saw it just to see just how shitty the movie could possibly be. I know that's why I went since I was morbidly curious. I left the movie, saw the next crowd and just muttered "I fucking pity you people."

You have no fucking idea what a bad movie is.
 
You have no fucking idea what a bad movie is.
I rated this thing a 60% if you scroll up this page a bit. I've seen some shit, I've seen some bad shit. I've watched Lifeforce...Lifeforce, google that, it's horrible. I've seen countless cheesy Godzilla movies (but they're at least fun), Rodan, I've watched GI Joe, which was fun a bit, every Transformers movie, Reptilicus, Plan 9 from Outer Space, Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus, I've honestly lost track of the bad I've seen since I watch bad scifi as a hobby. I usually don't even dogpile on a Zack Snyder movie since I actually like 300 and Watchmen, but BvsS just hurt me too much I guess.
 
Because your average movie goer actually cares about that or even knows what that is?
Of course they do. Editing is where a movie is made, editing affects everything in the film. Even if a moviegoer can't say that the editing was the problem, bad editing will have a massive impact on their enjoyment.
 
I watched it knowing about the pacing and editing problems. Suprised that it didn't bother me that much as I still enjoyed it.
 
I don't understand why people root for films to flop. You realize that peoples livelihoods are tied to the success of these films right? It's not all about the actors.

Some of you act like children - it's tragic.

Whose livelihoods do you believe are tied to the success of these films? You think the grips and gaffers and cinematographer and editors will not get work if this movie tanked? You think the writers and director will have to move to hovels in Detroit?
 
I rated this thing a 60% if you scroll up this page a bit. I've seen some shit, I've seen some bad shit. I've watched Lifeforce...Lifeforce, google that, it's horrible. I've seen countless cheesy Godzilla movies (but they're at least fun), Rodan, I've watched GI Joe, which was fun a bit, every Transformers movie, Reptilicus, Plan 9 from Outer Space, Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus, I've honestly lost track of the bad I've seen since I watch bad scifi as a hobby. I usually don't even dogpile on a Zack Snyder movie since I actually like 300 and Watchmen, but BvsS just hurt me too much I guess.

That shit doesn't even begin to touch Bruno Mattei, Chester Turner, or some of the shot on video shit I've seen. Do you even own a vcr? I swear people have been so cinematically sheltered since the death of video and the rental store that they have such a skewed sense of good and bad. Only about half of the films released on VHS have been released on DVD, and only a fraction of those have been released through streaming.
 
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