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[PhoncipleBone]

Any chance Deadpool eeks out another 20M to pass Passion as the top grossing R rated movie?

Would love to see that happen.

Highly unlikely.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Oh goody, people don't know how Cinema Score works.

 

[NomarTyme]

Nah. I think it will be close. If it breaks $1B, it won't be by enough to bump down TDKR as the biggest batman film.

I'll listen to this guy.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Perhaps it was largely expected by Thursday, but it still speaks to the degree WB dropped the ball on some things that a film with Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman couldn't outopen a film with only Iron Man. It's a gigantic opening, certainly, but one can't help but wonder how things would have gone under more ideal conditions.

 

[Nemesis121]

Perhaps it was largely expected by Thursday, but it still speaks to the degree WB dropped the ball on some things that a film with Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman couldn't outopen a film with only Iron Man. It's a gigantic opening, certainly, but one can't help but wonder how things would have gone under more ideal conditions.

The movie is too long, and doesn't cater to kids i was sitting next to a family and 2 of the 3 kids fell asleep during the movie, there were a lot of families at my showing, WB need to remove Synder from any future movies..

 

[Mario007]

1. Begins was fighting off the stench that was Batman and Robin. Also, the comic book movie industry has changed drastically since 2005.

2. Different expectations for Captain America than there are for Batman or Superman, let alone both in the same film


There is no chance WB is happy with the new Batman movie doing less than the last one. You have to blame someone for that.

I'll givd you the first but the second you could actually argue TWS being a disappointment as it did similar to the boring Thor, if you wanted to play the devils advocate.

BVS hasnt even been out for a week, in fact its been out for 3 days, broke all sorts of records, is sitting at 424 million in 3 days and yet you still talk of this movie ad if its a failure.

 

[Mario007]

Perhaps it was largely expected by Thursday, but it still speaks to the degree WB dropped the ball on some things that a film with Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman couldn't outopen a film with only Iron Man. It's a gigantic opening, certainly, but one can't help but wonder how things would have gone under more ideal conditions.

To be fair Ironamn 3 is pretty much an Alice in the Wonderland anomaly.

 

[x Power Pad Death Stomp x]

I hate, HATE BvS, but Iron Man 3 was coming off the universally loved Avengers 1, BvS is coming off the middling Man of Steel. I think the 170 million is a great number for them.

I really hope that Suicide Squad does well. No matter what happens, we'll get another Batman movie. Deadshot??? Prob not.

 

[Obliterator]

And this is why Snyder... like Michael Bay... continues to be given movies.
It doesn't matter whether they're good or not so long as they sell. And his movies sell.

Snyder, for all of his issues, is VASTLY more talented than Bay. He actually has excellent eye for art and how to frame a beautiful shot.

 

[Verendus]

Perhaps it was largely expected by Thursday, but it still speaks to the degree WB dropped the ball on some things that a film with Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman couldn't outopen a film with only Iron Man. It's a gigantic opening, certainly, but one can't help but wonder how things would have gone under more ideal conditions.

I don't think there's any point to wonder because it's impossible to predict. It's like wondering what The Dark Knight Rises could've done without the Aurora tragedy. It's pretty clear it didn't hit its potential since the last two Batman movies were much bigger than this on admissions on opening weekend. If you do a bit of basic math in consideration of price differences and 3D, The Dark Knight had similar admissions to The Avengers, and The Dark Knight Rises had more admissions than any other modern superhero movie. Batman v Superman isn't coming anywhere near that unless it pulls off the impossible.

Granted, The Dark Knight had a huge cultural impact, and The Dark Knight Rises was its follow up, but that shows you the power of Batman's brand when it's used effectively. This movie could clear $400 million, but that still wouldn't be near where you could take Batman if you create the perfect storm. It's easy to say Warner didn't create that simply because of the critical lashing and some of the negative buzz on social media. That's their mistake to an extent because they made an unconventional movie rather than playing it safe.

I think the domestic range right now is looking like $365m - $408m without knowing how legs are going to be. That's a solid range of worst case scenario, I think. Towards the upper end of that range would indicate decent word of mouth. Towards the lower end would indicate poor word of mouth. More than $408 million domestic, and it's safe to say the movie has pretty good word of mouth with the vast majority liking it.

As for it hitting a billion dollars worldwide, it's looking pretty likely with how it's opened in various overseas territories, but it ultimately comes down to legs. $925m is a pretty good baseline with poor legs. But in my eyes, $1b was never the mark to beat. It was $1.2b that would show a very good result. So without good legs, this is looking like a financial success, but an underperformance, even if it passes $1b. Less than that, and it's a disappointment even with Warner making money. They may as well have just let Afflect make a solo Batman movie, and it'd likely have done much better.

Fortunately for Warner, they still have that card, so they don't have much to worry about unless Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman are complete failures. They'll likely play it safe with Justice League, and announce a Batman solo, the latter of which I'm sure they started to prepare as soon as he came into the project.

Edit:

Snyder, for all of his issues, is VASTLY more talented than Bay. He actually has excellent eye for art and how to frame a beautiful shot.

Michael Bay made The Rock, though. That's one of the best action movies ever. I consider it better than pretty much all the movies in the superhero genre with the exception of a select few.

 

[Anth1888]

There is no chance WB is happy with the new Batman movie doing less than the last one. You have to blame someone for that.

Never understood this line of argument comparing this to The Dark Knight Rises. It's the final film of a trilogy spanning 7 years and Nolan's last coming off The Dark Knight. BvS (in terms of Batman) was a relaunch of the character WB won't be directly comparing it I would think, different context especially coming of Man of Steel. Will be different for the solo Batman film then you can compare it as the Affleck/Batman/Irons/Leto Gotham universe is established.

 

[Lights and Waves]

Glad it's slaying tbh!!

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Perhaps it was largely expected by Thursday, but it still speaks to the degree WB dropped the ball on some things that a film with Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman couldn't outopen a film with only Iron Man. It's a gigantic opening, certainly, but one can't help but wonder how things would have gone under more ideal conditions.

An RDJ Iron Man versus a fuckin BEN AFFLECK Batman!

It truly is the Trump of movies. Lol.

 

[G-Fex]

Critics did everything. They ruined our society

 

[Gunslinger]

How much did star wars make?

 

[Lights and Waves]

I don't understand why people root for films to flop. You realize that peoples livelihoods are tied to the success of these films right? It's not all about the actors.

Some of you act like children - it's tragic.

 

[johnny956]

They did, the actuals will be a few million less tomorrow, something like $167.5m. It's not having only a 27% Sun drop.

Saw it this morning. Wasn't sold out but that's Easter morning for you

 

[Verendus]

I don't understand why people root for films to flop. You realize that peoples livelihoods are tied to the success of these films right? It's not all about the actors.

Some of you act like children - it's tragic.

For your information, I'm 12.

That's not a nice thing to say to me, friend.

 

[Acorn]

Divergent is on life support and they have another one to get through lol was only a matter of time until the 'split last part into two movies strategy' blew up in someone's face.

 

[Dabanton]

Good take so far.

BvS was messy but palatable and it did what it needed to do which is setup a team movie. So Synder did what he was hired for. The movie looked great. But soppy Superman really brought things down considerably for me.

 

[BronsonLee]

Just got back from Zootopia. Fucking hell, I should just assume Disney Animation owns me now cause they can't miss

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Divergent is on life support and they have another one to get through lol was only a matter of time until the 'split last part into two movies strategy' blew up in someone's face.

They should have tried to make better movies.

That book series was never on the success level of all the other series to be able to carry itself through bad movie after bad movie

 

[Messofanego]

The reviews prior to opening weekend don't mean shit. The Rotten Tomato rating tanked and yet people still came out in droves to see the movie.

Word of mouth is what is going to make or break Batman v Superman. Not reviews. Nobody gives a fuck about what movie critics say. People care what their friends, brothers, cousins, etc.. think of the movie. So what is really going to hurt or help this movie will be the word of mouth that percolates throughout the week. I don't think reviews will mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

Word of mouth is reviews.

My point is that it depends where the review is coming from. Is it coming from your close circle of friends and family members? People whose opinion you actually care about? Or is it coming from the movie critics that gave this movie a 20% or whatever on RottenTomatoes.com?

Not really.

You tried to draw a line between "reviews" and "word of mouth" as if word of mouth isn't simply a bunch of people reviewing the movie to each other.

Your argument is bad.

You're arguing semantics - you know exactly what I mean. I'll re-word my argument differently to appeal to your sensibilities. Not to help you understand - because you know exactly what I mean. I'll re-word the argument only to get past this semantics squabble: The movie reviews from RottenTomatoes.com didn't mean shit, because people still came out to watch the movie and people don't give a fuck what movie critics on that web site say.

Montresor, word of mouth IS reviews. When people put their ratings down on that CinemaScore card, that's a review. Maybe it's about time you realised that similarity. You're trying to distance them to show you don't care about critics but it doesn't work if you simultaneously care about word of mouth. They might not be as articulate or as well explained as critics' reviews but when you recommend or tell someone to avoid a film, you're giving that person a review. Especially in this age of social media, there's little difference from a critic review and joe schmoe review other than how many people view that review.

 

[Raylan]

Batman vs Superman with over 170 million in the US, over 424 million worldwide.
Love it! Really like the movie. Critics can kiss my ass.

Snyder, for all of his issues, is VASTLY more talented than Bay. He actually has excellent eye for art and how to frame a beautiful shot.

Yes! Yes he is!

 

[CaviarMeths]

I don't understand why people root for films to flop. You realize that peoples livelihoods are tied to the success of these films right? It's not all about the actors.

Some of you act like children - it's tragic.

It's a commercial product. It's open to criticism. And if people lose their jobs over it (as was the case with Jeff Robinov after Man of Steel), it's certainly not the audience's fault.

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

Justice League will probably be fine

Spoiler

A the box office

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

I don't understand why people root for films to flop. You realize that peoples livelihoods are tied to the success of these films right? It's not all about the actors.

Some of you act like children - it's tragic.

I can't believe you wrote this. lol

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Fortunately for Warner, they still have that card, so they don't have much to worry about unless Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman are complete failures. They'll likely play it safe with Justice League, and announce a Batman solo, the latter of which I'm sure they started to prepare as soon as he came into the project.

Speaking of Suicide Squad, how are you feeling about this http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=192722900#post192722900 friend Verendus?

 

[Dahbomb]

Speaking of Suicide Squad, how are you feeling about this http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=192722900#post192722900 friend Verendus?

Well BvS made $425 million on its first weekend, SS has to get over $700 million lifetime for you to win.

 

[Verendus]

Speaking of Suicide Squad, how are you feeling about this http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=192722900#post192722900 friend Verendus?

I'm sweating, friend.

This movie needed to do $180 million for me to feel comfortable. $280m is a pretty high bar, but considering I've learned Joker is actually receiving second billing from Will Smith, it could easily beat that with decent reception. I kind of feel like I was deceived, but I think I have a chance as long as there's no Batman in any of the trailers. Therefore, I hope that movie falters. That's just how it has to be. It cannot pass $250 million.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

I can't believe you wrote this. lol

Dude called the movie daddy. I can totally believe it..

 

[kobu]

I don't understand why people root for films to flop. You realize that peoples livelihoods are tied to the success of these films right? It's not all about the actors.

Some of you act like children - it's tragic.

If you make a shit product why should I care if you lose your job?

 

[Blader]

I laughed at WB's statement:

"Clearly, audiences have embraced it and we are already seeing repeat business. It's just fun. Often, there's a disconnect between critics and audiences. It doesn’t take itself seriously. It’s just an enjoyable afternoon at the movies."

Even if you really loved this movie, can anyone say Batman v Superman is something that doesn't take itself seriously?

 

[Dalek]

I don't understand why people root for films to flop. You realize that peoples livelihoods are tied to the success of these films right? It's not all about the actors.

Some of you act like children - it's tragic.

Wow.

 

[inky]

I don't understand why people root for films to flop. You realize that peoples livelihoods are tied to the success of these films right? It's not all about the actors.

Some of you act like children - it's tragic.

Boo, fucking hoo. Speaking of acting like children... what do you want then, people to write a check to every struggling business out there? Movies are a business. That's how capitalism works. People use their money and get a product or service in return, if the product or service is not to their liking then they don't want more of that same product or service.

It's not like people are rolling on their backs laughing at the movie crew who is not going to be able to pay their mortgage because the movie made 900 million instead of 1.5 billion. It doesn't even work like that... but nice try with your fucking fanboyism disguised as fake indignation.

 

[Obliterator]

I laughed at WB's statement:



Even if you really loved this movie, can anyone say Batman v Superman is something that doesn't take itself seriously?

Yeah thats not accurate at all. I enjoyed the movie but it wasn't some light hearted romp. It takes itself very seriously

 

[Daingurse]

Deadpool is so close to overtaking American Sniper. Incredible.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Yeah thats not accurate at all. I enjoyed the movie but it wasn't some light hearted romp. It takes itself very seriously

It's like the complete opposite of what they've said prior.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

I don't understand why people root for films to flop. You realize that peoples livelihoods are tied to the success of these films right? It's not all about the actors.

Some of you act like children - it's tragic.

Lol you understand that the people who work on the movies have already been paid right? That it isn't tied to box office gross?

And you do know that most people in the industry aren't tied to a single movie right? That they get hired from movie to movie?

 

[G-Fex]

Stop saying friend to each other you freaking dorks.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

I don't understand why people root for films to flop. You realize that peoples livelihoods are tied to the success of these films right? It's not all about the actors.

Some of you act like children - it's tragic.

This is a fucking joke right?

 

[Acorn]

Stop saying friend to each other you freaking dorks.

I'm not your friend, buddy.

 

[Farsi]

I'm not your friend, buddy.

 

[EGM1966]

Aww. Still think BvS was shit but Afleck was alright.

 

[Toa TAK]

Stop saying friend to each other you freaking dorks.

You got it, my friend.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Stop saying friend to each other you freaking dorks.

pls stop breaking kayfabe

 

[Verendus]

Stop saying friend to each other you freaking dorks.

Sorry, friend.

But that's just how it is.

 

[DeathyBoy]

It's like the complete opposite of what they've said prior.

This is damage control fur JK. That film will be micromanaged to shit to ensure its a fun romp.

 

[DizzyCaffeine]

Brilliant move by WB moving BvS to March.

 

[Bronx-Man]

I don't understand why people root for films to flop. You realize that peoples livelihoods are tied to the success of these films right? It's not all about the actors.

Some of you act like children - it's tragic.