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[3N16MA]

Transformers movies prove general audiences can forgive a lot of a movies flaws if the movie is actually ENTERTAINING.

The entire middle half of BvS had me nodding off. For all of Bayformer's faults, there's never been a moment in them where I was bored.

Transformers films are continuing to decline domestically. China is propping it up OS.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

I really wish more people shared my opinion that BvS was awesome.

So you finally hit the Acceptance stage?

 

[Discotheque]

Be facetious about the metropolis scene brehs....

What about the scenes when he was out of the car. That heat vision and seeing the ship crash into the world engine was scary as hell. Great setpiece.

Bruce was at his most heroic in the opening too.

Thats pretty wack that they played the car commercial in front of the movie. Thank God I didn't get that. It would have hurt some of its impact no doubt

 

[Alienous]

Yea, but everything's your fault in the end anyways.

Totally.

Edit: Yep, that damn commercial played before the movie for me. Completley ruined the scene in my watch.

Ooof.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

I'll admit I'm in the minority about WW as I just didn't see what other people saw and I have a bad feeling about her solo movie next year. I'm probably wrong on this one like I am with most things though.

People disliking WW is not a minority. The actress was terrible. After watching BvS I started wanting the idea that Faora from Man of Steel becomes Wonder Woman.

Avengers did 1.5 billion. AoU nearly as much, and the things wrong with the latter film weren't the jokes.

The jokes help cover up the crappiness of the Avengers. I can't remember any good pieces of dialogue... I can remember certain quips, though, because they're used as memes like, "I understood that reference." I'm trying to remember anything memorable or something of substance from AoU and I can't.

 

[Saint Gregory]

I would've enjoyed the destruction opening if it hadn't been shot like a car commercial.

And by that I mean, they literally repurposed that exact scene for a car commercial.

Kevin Smith's complaint that you saw the entire movie from the trailers was spot on and it didn't even include stuff like this, jeez.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Transformers films are continuing to decline domestically. China is propping it up OS.

Must be why the 5th is taking so long to make. Paramount sees the writing on the wall.

 

[MIMIC]

Not surprised. The movie looks like absolute straight-to-DVD garbage.

Transformers is at least nice to look at (even though they're awful)

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Must be why the 5th is taking so long to make. Paramount sees the writing on the wall.

They could probably get one last good Domestic BO if they finally did Unicron.

 

[Generic Power Ranger]

It was better than I expected based on what I'd read here. It's pretty good. Hope it manages decent numbers

Kind of spoilers

Spoiler

it does rush some stuff though. Like bad guy motivation and justice League universe building

 

[Kusagari]

Gadot is one of the few things about the movie that has received more praise than criticism.

People need to get over her not being muscular enough or whatever. She was fine.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

It was better than I expected based on what I'd read here. It's pretty good. Hope it manages decent numbers

It's already got decent numbers. Decent ain't where anyone involved wanted it to be, though.

 

[NumberTwo]

If you had told me a decade ago that Captain America would be a bigger media property than Superman, I'd have laughed in your face.

Marvel has created a better Superman in Chris Evans/Captain America than DC has with the actual character. That legitimately makes me kind of sad.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

If you had told me a decade ago that Captain America would be a bigger media property than Superman, I'd have laughed in your face.

Zack Snyder's Superman has had two movies to try and get Superman from point A to point B.

Meanwhile Captain America is written like he should be, and plopped into scenarios that explore that.

 

[Prompto]

Must be why the 5th is taking so long to make. Paramount sees the writing on the wall.

And yet they're making a Bumblebee spin off lol

 

[kswiston]

I cant believe you guys got the box office thread locked :/

Where do weekend numbers for non-BvS stuff go before xaosslug posts the new thread? Here?

 

[Shredderi]

The guys in charge should do everything they can right now to right the course for the DC universe. Just letting Snyder do Justice league after this would be shame. Is it a case of "fuck we already signed the contracts and can't do anything about this now. Just gotta play it all out knowing we fucked it up"?

 

[Discotheque]

Marvel has created a better Superman in Chris Evans/Captain America than DC has with the actual character. That legitimately makes me kind of sad.

Yeah besides the reeves/routh iteration this would have also been a very enjoyable film portrayal of superman

 

[Cipherr]

Nah, CWverse is fine as its own thing

Can't disagree with that. They know what they are doing there.

 

[Cheerilee]

god i love how people are still mad about this

I'm amazed that anyone is still mad about the Mandarin reveal. Did they not see Thor 2? Did they not see the "All Hail the King" short?

If anyone's still pissed about the Mandarin, and they didn't see Thor 2 (because Thor 2 sucks), go watch the All Hail the King short, because it's great.

 

[CloudyTuba]

This drop was entirely expected. Hoping this scares the studio bad enough to drop Snyder. Thats looking pretty likely to me now.

So I just finished the film:

Got to hand it to Snyder, I didn't think it was possible to make a 2.5 hour film feel both plodding and rushed at the same time, yet that is exactly what BvS is.

Every single criticism was spot on.

I do NOT understand why so many love Batfleck. He looks the part, but the script gave him NOTHING to work with

Gal Gadot was also passable at best as WW. Again, script gave her nothing.

Action scenes were nowhere near good enough to help this trash.

Eisenberg was even worse than I thought. Someone literally saw Carey in Batman Forever and said "Yeah, we need more of that!"

The ending. LMFAO at the ending.

3/10. Said score might go lower. The more I think about this shit, the angrier I get.

Supes deserves better.

Batman deserves better.

DC fans deserve better.

Spot on.

 

[G-Fex]

hahaha

Entertaining isn't a word I'd use to describe Transformers flicks.

 

[Generic Power Ranger]

It's already got decent numbers. Decent ain't where anyone involved wanted it to be, though.

No of course. I meant decent compared to expectations. They shouldn't have shown wonder woman in the trailers though. Gave too much of the plot away. Removed some tension from the actual movie.

 

[Green Embers]

I cant believe you guys got the box office thread locked :/

Where do weekend numbers for non-BvS stuff go before xaosslug posts the new thread? Here?

Yeah, might as well post them here until the new thread tomorrow goes up.

 

[Spiritwalker]

I went in with low expectations, but found myself enjoying it quite a bit instead. Definitely prefer it over Avengers 2.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Yeah besides the reeves/routh iteration this would have also been a very enjoyable film portrayal of superman

The scene where Cap decides he would rather not re-enter the farmhouse in AOU gets the point that Snyder is trying to make with Superman better than he has.

 

[Caja 117]

Ultron I get, but there was no way they were gonna put OG Mandarin on screen. Same reason why they cast Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One.

BS, mandarin was just fine in that movie until they needed that plot twist for a couple of laugh, it was a waste if an Idea that look great with Kingsley as a villain.

 

[Ashby]

The scene where Cap decides he would rather not re-enter the farmhouse in AOU gets the point that Snyder is trying to make with Superman better than he has.

I don't remember that scene. Could you explain?

 

[echoshifting]

I cant believe you guys got the box office thread locked :/

Where do weekend numbers for non-BvS stuff go before xaosslug posts the new thread? Here?

I dunno, I'd be amazed if this thread is still open tomorrow

 

[inky]

And yet they're making a Bumblebee spin off lol

My God. Can't wait till robot car fatigue settles in. Any minute now, right?

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

My God. Can't wait till robot car fatigue settles in. Any minute now, right?

IDK, I guess when they make the GoBots movie?

 

[G-Fex]

My God. Can't wait till robot car fatigue settles in. Any minute now, right?

How many people have the Autobots gotten killed?

Optimus Prime is a fucking psychopath, and the autobots are fucking moronic.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

MCU Captain America is a better Superman than Snyderman.

There, I said it.

 

[Frozenprince]

AoU was somehow the better paced and realized movie but it didn't have the highs of batman for me. I'll defend that opening 15-20 minutes to the death

Why couldn't the whole movie just be that.

It was a fucking Kaiju movie with Superman.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

My God. Can't wait till robot car fatigue settles in. Any minute now, right?

lol. What number are they on now? Think I've seen one and a quarter..I'm good.

 

[echoshifting]

MCU Captain America is a better Superman than Snyderman.

There, I said it.

You're not even the first person on this page of this thread to say this

Not that I don't agree with you, but it's not a revelation

 

[Alienous]

MCU Captain America is a better Superman than Snyderman.

There, I said it.

I don't think anyone will debate you on that.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

I don't remember that scene. Could you explain?

Cap is about to re-enter the farmhouse after following Thor outside. He's about to re-enter when he stops, the camera is inside the house looking outside, waiting, but Cap turns around because he feels he can't be a part of that world.

That whole scene is a shoutout to the old western movie, The Searchers

 

[Frozenprince]

It's already got decent numbers. Decent ain't where anyone involved wanted it to be, though.

A moderate success over time isn't even remotely acceptable.

WB needed this to be a mega hit to launch a film universe. A whole lot of people are about to lose their jobs.

 

[Kelsdesu]

What does the next panel look like?

 

[Snaku]

Snyder, on the other hand, insists he gets Superman and is doing him right.

He is doing him right, but everybody is so caught up in their own interpretation of the character while demanding instant gratification, that they're not letting Snyder tell the story of how Clark becomes the comic Superman in a real world setting. Justice League is the payoff, even Snyder himself has said as much. Has anybody ever heard of a goddamn character arc? One of the biggest complaints about Superman as a character is that he's boring, too perfect and powerful to tell an interesting story. So we get an interesting story about how he becomes that character instead and all people can bitch about is that they wanted the perfect boring character for the last two films.

 

[Prime crotch]

Too bad, it's a messy but good movie.

 

[yanipheonu]

Marvel has created a better Superman in Chris Evans/Captain America than DC has with the actual character. That legitimately makes me kind of sad.

I desperately want them to just say screw it, and make Superman a time-displaced hero as well.

Imagine Golden Age Superman in modern times.

 

[Frozenprince]

He is doing him right, but everybody is so caught up in their own interpretation of the character while demanding instant gratification, that they're not letting Snyder tell the story of how Clark becomes the comic Superman in a real world setting. Justice League is the payoff, even Snyder himself has said as much. Has anybody ever heard of a goddamn character arc? One of the biggest complaints about Superman as a character is that he's boring, too perfect and powerful to tell an interesting story. So we get an interesting story about how he becomes that character instead and all people can bitch about is that they wanted the perfect boring character for the last two films.

Maybe by idiots.

Superman is stupidly easy to get right. He's a good person that does good things.

 

[broncobuster]

Marvel has created a better Superman in Chris Evans/Captain America than DC has with the actual character. That legitimately makes me kind of sad.

I can agree with Winter Soldier's Cap. Wasn't feeling the character in Avengers and TFA did too much burying of other characters to sell Cap.

 

[Dysun]

Movie wasn't as good as it could have been, even though I liked parts of it and had high hopes.

Even if JL is a good movie it cant rebound with Snyder and the stigma that's attached to this universe. Get him off

 

[tomtom94]

He is doing him right, but everybody is so caught up in their own interpretation of the character while demanding instant gratification

yeah how dare people expect instant gratification when they've paid for a movie ticket

 

[Alienous]

He is doing him right, but everybody is so caught up in their own interpretation of the character while demanding instant gratification, that they're not letting Snyder tell the story of how Clark becomes the comic Superman in a real world setting. Justice League is the payoff, even Snyder himself has said as much. Has anybody ever heard of a goddamn character arc? One of the biggest complaints about Superman as a character is that he's boring, too perfect and powerful to tell an interesting story. So we get an interesting story about how he becomes that character instead and all people can bitch about is that they wanted the perfect boring character for the last two films.

Read Superman Birthright. Watch Batman Begins.

The payoff should have been in the first movie. I shouldn't have to buy 3 movie tickets for the titular protagonist to become an compelling character.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

He is doing him right

He isn't.

 

[captainnapalm]

He is doing him right, but everybody is so caught up in their own interpretation of the character while demanding instant gratification, that they're not letting Snyder tell the story of how Clark becomes the comic Superman in a real world setting. Justice League is the payoff, even Snyder himself has said as much. Has anybody ever heard of a goddamn character arc?

Has Snyder said this? This is the arc I've assumed they're going for, but I've not had any confirmation.