Good luck, Zack.
Batman V Superman Takes A Dive With -70% Second Weekend
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Good luck, Zack.
UberTag
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Have no problem with people willing to make up their own minds about things. That said, when the overwhelming chorus is negative and the film maker's pedigree is in question, I would rather they open their minds to spending their movie-going dollars on something more original than simply jumping off a cliff like a lemming out of obligation. There are lots of great films out there to make up your own mind about that don't have a bad reputation going in.
element
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Yes. It dropped 72% on its second weekend, but Captain America: The First Avenger opened that weekend, so it had competition. Unlike BvS which went against God's Not Dead 2 and Meet the Blacks...
How would I engage in these sorts of conversations without seeing the film for myself and forming my own opinion beforehand?
I mean, the alternative would be to involve myself in all of these back-and-forths without having seen it. But who does that?
Who goes on the internet and complains about things they haven't seen/played/tried?
Madness.
Woof, I heard China wasn't really buying in too hard but that drop is even more brutal.
China is Marvel country. Batman v Superman is going to be beat by Ant-Man in China. Ant-Man.
yikes.
ReplacementPelican
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I don't think anyone is that morally corrupt.
Yes but they clearly don't want to or already do and just saw this too.
And we know what Snyder thinks of Ant-Man.
http://www.avclub.com/article/zack-snyder-says-batman-and-superman-are-imperviou-225154
Didn't someone say that like 70% of the BvS screens were going to be changed to some other movie the week after it released? That would explain the epic drop (WB hopes).
I've never gotten into the whole man child Marvel vs. DC squabbling either. I prefer DC's universe, but I like Marvel's too. It's like the ridiculous 'console warz' bullshit on the other side of this forum. I feel like I get hit with a wave of stupid everytime some random in a comments section or on a forum accuses a website or actual movie goers of being payed employees for whatever company they are crusading against. I can't even visit the DC subreddit anymore because of how much of a self-parody it is now.
The steps that have led him to being the leading force on franchises that are among Warner Bros' highest grossing are unfathomable.
call_kotaku
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Iron Man 3 is one of my least favorite MCU films (I'd only rank it above Hulk and Thor 2), and I don't really have any issue with how they treated the Mandarin. The film was getting pulled in way too many directions, so many creative decisions felt like bad compromises and so much of the plot felt contrived. RDJ's performance was also a bit strange and a lot of his line delivery really threw me off.
Also, the Shane Black buddy cop movie should've been Iron Man + Hulk
The Mandarin "twist" was just the cherry on top on the things I had problems with with one of the worst comic Movie I have ever watched.
Like Ultron in A:AOU, Whiplash in IR2 and Iron Monger in the Iron Man?
The movie lost 70% of its screens because performance was lower than expected since Day 1 and weekday legs were shit. China has a lot of mobility in its theatre business. In North America most exhibitors sign on to show major films for at least 2 weeks even if they bomb. If something bombs in China, it won't even make it to the second weekend before losing a ton of venues/screens.
HP_Wuvcraft
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I fucking loved reading some user post on the Roosterteeth forums that it would have been fine to have a stereotypical Asian Mandarin because "we don't know what they are doing over there".
Also: doing Watchmen so a lesser director like Terry Gilliam wouldn't.
Like, this guy is a goldmine for dumb jock quotes.
It's really, really weird that some people think DC fans can't legitimately dislike these movies. I know there are a few Marvel fans who haven't enjoyed any of the MCU either.
Plasticine
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It's going to be a climb to even make it to $800 million at this point.
AHA-Lambda
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Good, it's a faaaaar better movie.
echoshifting
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Yeah, Tony's pretty good at making bad guys, which explains his motivation in Civil War
$800 shouldn't be that difficult.
However, get ready for the very real possibility that BvS makes less than Zootopia worldwide. That scenario is seeming more and more likely.
Bobby Roberts
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Something I asked in the other thread: You think exhibitors are gonna start dumping screens starting next Friday? Normally you wouldn't start losing screens/theaters, especially without any solid competition coming in to force the film off, but this seems to be quite a thorough rejection happening on the part of the audience.
Frozenprince
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Good god.
I never understood the hate for that quote. I mean Ant-Man was way better than BvS but he's referring to Batman/Superman being more iconic which is true.
One of my favorite character bits in Hickman's run is during a description of Tony who had fallen off the map for a bit and it goes into the fact that despite everything Tony has done to try make up for his past sins, he's always been unnaturally gifted at making weapons of destruction. It's right as they revealed he'd made a sol's hammer powered by a dyson sphere and wipes out an entire armada of spaceships. I consider him constantly fucking up and creating his own villains one of the key aspects of the character.
I don't see it dropping off too many screens in NA, it's still more profitable to screen that most of the other movies coming out in the next few weeks.
Unless Hardcore Henry blows the fuck up for some reason.
RBelong2Us
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If you take into account inflation , BvS wouldn't even beat Inception WW
Bobby Roberts
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He's inarticulate as shit but the fact he does pushups doesn't make him a "jock."
The idea that he's some sort of lunkheaded "bro" invading nerd spaces is pretty silly. If you wanna dig in that direction, it's far more likely he's less the personification of fratboys deciding "nerd shit" is cool, and more like the masculine idiot inherent at the core of much of nerd fantasy given free reign.
It's not like nerds don't have their own breed of inarticulate dipshit who doesn't understand the stuff they love. It's not like toxic masculinity never soiled this humble land until the huns raided it
andythinkpad
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I think Ironman 2 is worse. Ironman 2, 3, Thor 2 all left the same bad taste in my mouth.
I rather watch a Hawkeye or Black Widow movie than Thor 3.
I wouldn't think so I mean even if it drops precipitously again, which i doubt... it'll probably be much gentler, it's still gonna be the big attraction despite not setting the world on fire. Exhibitors won't care how badly it's doing unless they have soemthing they think will bring in more and I don't think anything's coming out.
Gordon Shumway
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Such a terrible quote. Guess all the stupid/constant comparisons make sense. If HE'S doing it, what else can one expect? Ant-Man was a fine movie. Nothing out of this world, but certainly not some throwaway flick in the slightest. Guess it's a small enough movie that it's safe to poke fun at..
Was this ever answered? Perhaps just a fan?Who is this douchenozzle supposed to be?
Pai Pai Master
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Iron man 3 is far and away the best in the series IMO.
He's talking about the characters themselves, not the movies.
Believe Polygon had a article about something similar to this and why you DON'T have to see it, not about how bad the movie is but the mentally of some people and that they HAVE to see it, despite the movie not having many redeeming qualities.
Edit: Found it. http://www.polygon.com/2016/3/24/11299874/you-dont-have-to-see-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice
Agreed.
I'm sure the number of screenings for the film has already taken a tumble. As for screens, there's definitely the case that this doesn't need to tie up 3-4 screens in most multiplexes for what would generously be a mid-20s third weekend.
I doubt a ton of venues will completely drop the film in week 3 though. There are two 3k+ venue openers and a couple limited releases coming next weekend. However, you still have shit like Allegiant, Miracles from Heaven, and MBFGW2 tying up over 3k screens each. 10 Cloverfield Lane is still in over 2500 venues. Greek Wedding 2 is the only one of those films hitting 8 digits this weekend. They will take most of the theatre losses next weekend.
My guess is that BvS will drop about 400-500 locations next weekend. Perhaps even less.
Then that makes it an even stupider thing to say.
Is that the one where Reed Richards explains the differences in their geniuses? Because yes, that was brilliant. Really speaks to what makes these characters tick.
broncobuster
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Folks sort of see red when Marvel vs DC can be inferred, mentioned above.
In fairness, Snyder should've used an example that wouldn't get people heated. You know, the likes of The Spirit or Steel.
Actually, I'd take a new Steel film. Dammit Snyder!
He's saying Batman and Superman are more popular/iconic than Ant-Man. Which is true. Don't see why that's considered so inflammatory.
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Gemüsepizza
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Hopefully this puts an end to any plans WB had for the DCEU. They need to massively rework everything. Change the creative team responsible, postpone/cancel the Justice League movie - maybe it's also a good idea to look for new actors. Because while I think that they have potential, they are just tainted now. I do not care for Cavill as Superman anymore. And I very much do not care for Affleck as Batman anymore. I don't even want to see the planned Batman movie, and I'm a huge Batman fan. By having Batman torture/kill his enemies, they completely destroyed his character. The only way to fix this is to completely reboot everything or to change it with time travel or something like that. Biggest disappointment of the year for me.
Discotheque
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Because it's my precious mahvel movie.
Batman and Superman will always transcend many other comic characters. He was right about that.
Hell....this boring and panned movie will make more than ant man. It's something we all absolutely expected. Doesn't that already prove his point
Frozenprince
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LOL at Reed Richards lecturing fucking anybody on anything. The man is a walking mass murder machine.
That doesn't make Ant-man "flavor of the week". The character has been relatively popular for decades.
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