Batman V Superman’ Takes A Dive With -70% Second Weekend

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He likely wants these movies to die so movies that interest him can be made in their place.

I don't see how that logic is all that much different than the bunch of people wanting BvS to do horribly at the box office so the DC universe changes direction.

Well, his thing actually has a chance at happening one day.

Even with DC. WB would sooner just stop making superhero movies than do this massive shifting of gears that some are clamoring for.
 
Wow Thor Dark World gets a lot of undeserved hate. It's a good movie. Not Winter Soldier or GOTG tier obviously but damn. It's at least better than all 3 Iron Man films, Incredible Hulk and the amazingly dull Ant-Man.

This is only slightly less crazy than boasting that The Spirit is your favourite superhero film.
 
Wow Thor Dark World gets a lot of undeserved hate. It's a good movie. Not Winter Soldier or GOTG tier obviously but damn. It's at least better than all 3 Iron Man films, Incredible Hulk and the amazingly dull Ant-Man.
Clearly, we have different taste. Then again, you're a cat..
Russel Crowe actually made me forget about Brando as Jor-El, which is a pretty great accomplishment.
YES. They were both such interesting characters. Worst part of MoS for me..when I realized they'd be gone, and all that's left is Superman. Sigh..
 
Wow Thor Dark World gets a lot of undeserved hate. It's a good movie. Not Winter Soldier or GOTG tier obviously but damn. It's at least better than all 3 Iron Man films, Incredible Hulk and the amazingly dull Ant-Man.

I think TDW gets alot of hate too but I would really only say it has a chance of beating IM2.

People have forgotten how great the chemistry between the actors was in IM1.
 
I still don't get Ezra Miller for Barry Allen. He isn't someone who I would pick for the role.

I didn't think Gustin would work until he did. I'll give Miller a chance.

The likely play for Warner Bros is to perhaps do some script rewrites and get someone to consult on the film to keep Snyder on track. I doubt they're going to replace Snyder at this point, given that the film is ready to start shooting on April 11. Beyond that, it's probable that Snyder loses Justice League Part 2.

Assuming maximum financial pain, they keep the same production team for the most part, do some script rewrites, delay a few months, and someone else steps into the director's chair with Snyder staying on as executive producer. Given that outcome - which I honestly think is unlikely - I think they're choose James Wan, as I've said before.

Why? They already have Wan on contract for Aquaman, so this is a lateral move for him. In addition, he has Furious 7 until his belt, a film with a large ensemble cast sitting at $1.5 billion. Furious 7 saw a similar Friday-to-Friday drop in the US, but it had strong, strong legs in the international market, which is currently letting BvS down.

Wow Thor Dark World gets a lot of undeserved hate. It's a good movie. Not Winter Soldier or GOTG tier obviously but damn. It's at least better than all 3 Iron Man films, Incredible Hulk and the amazingly dull Ant-Man.

Thor: Dark World sits under most superhero films because it commits the greatest sin: it's just boring and unforgettable. It's competently constructed from the most vanilla of elements.
 
Wow Thor Dark World gets a lot of undeserved hate. It's a good movie. Not Winter Soldier or GOTG tier obviously but damn. It's at least better than all 3 Iron Man films, Incredible Hulk and the amazingly dull Ant-Man.

I personally really enjoy Thor 2, I still think it's a damn fun and enjoyable movie, and while it is better than Iron Man 2 (IMHO) I would never say it's better than IM1 or IM3. I like Thor 2, but it ain't that good.
 
Goodness..lol. Portman sucks, but nowhere near as much as Dennings..and she barely gets any screen time!

I likely fell asleep before she got super annoying. Portman's soporific super powers were just too powerful (as well as a boring plot)

And way to take something out of context, lol. I think a Thor movie can definitely work. They just need to make some changes
 
He likely wants these movies to die so movies that interest him can be made in their place.

I don't see how that logic is all that much different than the bunch of people wanting BvS to do horribly at the box office so the DC universe changes direction.

No, it's not like that, and that's not how it works. No superhero movies doesn't automatically mean that more movies they will like will be made, it just means no superhero movies.

Saying you want superhero movies to die is like someone saying they want period films to die. Both are a small fraction of the movies that come out every year, and if you can't find enough movies that interest you then you probably aren't looking hard enough.
 
People have forgotten how great the chemistry between the actors was in IM1.

Yup. Watching IM1 the other day, I don't think this gag would fly now that they are under Disney;
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Um, what? Isn't Wonder Woman supposed to be a serious character, more so than even Superman?

I'm not familiar with Gal Gadot's previous work but she was the highlight of B v. S. I don't read DC comics but isn't she made from clay or some nonsense and is Zeus' daughter? I read that Chris Pine will be the damsel in distress in the WW solo film, she's the star.
You can have someone be the lead or star, but who steals the show? Who is memorable at the end of the movie? Look at The Dark Knight. Bale was the main character, but Ledger as Joker stole the show.

Her English langauge work is pretty thin, which is pretty much the various Furious films she has been in. Which have always been an ensemble cast. She was recently in Triple 9 and the upcoming Criminal.

Wonder Woman in all actuality is probably the most serious character in the trinity.
 
If you happen to be a non-comics reader, what did those Knightmare sequences add to the film for you?

They were pretty long...

They added nothing but confusion, especially the inception moment, which the movie ignored anyway immediately after it happened.
 
They added nothing but confusion, especially the inception moment, which the movie ignored anyway immediately after it happened.

Part of the confusion could have been alleviated with a 30 second scene with Bruce talking to Alfred about his nightmares returning, and another 30 second scene where Alfred critcizes him about pushing himself to the edge of exhaustion.

Because as it stands, Batman got bored of waiting for his files to decrypt and randomly fell asleep at his keyboard for a 10 minute dystopian double dream sequence.
 
Yup. Watching IM1 the other day, I don't think this gag would fly now that they are under Disney;
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It would fly.

Groot fucking impales like 5 people, then smashes them against another dozen people, then turns to the camera and smiles. Sure, they are humanoid aliens and not people, but that's a pretty small distinction all things considered.
 
Yup. Watching IM1 the other day, I don't think this gag would fly now that they are under Disney;
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Klaus gets him arm cut off in AoU. Plenty of people are shown getting shot in various Marvel films. Also, don't forget about all the Netflix shows.

I don't know why you think that wouldn't fly.
 
I think Norse Mythology (even if it is a superhero version of it) adds to Thor's appeal in Europe. Compare the German, Russian, French, etc numbers for The Dark World to Ant-Man.
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I agree. It reminds me of how Saint Seiya (Greek Myth) was incredible popular all over the world.

Also, Hannible Lector is Thor dad. He has real star power over sea.
 
Maybe just maybe some people could only afford Wrestlemania this weekend, did you discuss that yet? See how it does next weekend.

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I bought Conan on blu-ray. You shouldn't.

I am sorry. At least I am assuming you are talking about Momoa Conan and not Arnold Conan.

Russel Crowe actually made me forget about Brando as Jor-El, which is a pretty great accomplishment.

As much as I hated Man of Steel, I would watch the shit out of a Russel Crowe Jor-El film. He was awesome. But of course, he is Russel Crowe.

Gustin would look weird with the movie JLA, like someone brought their kid to work.
And the problem is?

I personally think Mark Walberg as booster gold. But that's just me.

Oh, god. That would be great.
 
Russel Crowe signing on to do a superhero film for a quick paycheck, but actually giving a legit performance was pretty great. Nothing worse than actors who can act, but who phone in a performance when they feel like the subject matter is beneath them.
 
Is there a reason you guys believe Snyder isn't getting canned?

After this WB would be insane to entrust a whole new series of films to him. There is no way their shareholders would allow it.
 
I hope this spells the beginning of the end for superhero movies..

probably not considering the Disney train, but at least non-Disney.. rather see a Porky's remake than a superhero movie.. maybe Snyder can helm that...
Stahp. I like superhero movies. Lots of other people like superhero movies. Marvel's stuff is still wildly popular and successful, and Deadpool just legitimized a whole new branch of the genre.

Go enjoy what you enjoy and quit wishing for perfectly good entertainment that you don't like to disappear.
 
Your posts are 1000x better when I hear Vinny in my head.

And yes, I agree about Momoa. The only time he put in a good performance was in GoT, and he didn't have to speak much.

I think him speaking Dothraki helped quite a bit. It sounded badass and gave his performance more gravitas.

Maybe have the whole movie in Atlantian? lol
 
Is there a reason you guys believe Snyder isn't getting canned?

After this WB would be insane to entrust a whole new series of films to him. There is no way their shareholders would allow it.

I asked this, but Justice League begins filming in a week. Heavy pre-production work is being done was we speak, and people think it would cost too much to just delay it, let alone pausing it, getting rid of him, bringing a new team and reworking it all.

I still think they shouldn't but at this point JL can't be any worse and it's only that one movie. Maybe they'll limit his input in anything else... Still, it's a pretty important movie if you are using it to establish 3 other franchises you want to get off the ground, at least.

So, I don't know...
 
I asked this, but Justice League begins filming in a week. Heavy pre-production work is being done was we speak, and people think it would cost too much to just delay it, let alone pausing it, getting rid of him, bringing a new team and reworking it all.

I still think they shouldn't but at this point JL can't be any worse and it's only that one movie. Maybe they'll limit his input in anything else... Still, it's a pretty important movie if you are using it to establish 3 other franchises you want to get off the ground, at least.

So, I don't know...

it certainly will be. BvS was heavily frontloaded off of goodwill from the nolan films. Having it's predecessor be a bomb guarantees that it won't have nearly the opening weekend BvS had.
 
I asked this, but Justice League begins filming in a week. Heavy pre-production work is being done was we speak, and people think it would cost too much to just delay it, let alone pausing it, getting rid of him, bringing a new team and reworking it all.

I still think they shouldn't but at this point JL can't be any worse and it's only that one movie. Maybe they'll limit his input in anything else... Still, it's a pretty important movie if you are using it to establish 3 other franchises you want to get off the ground, at least.

So, I don't know...

Arent they planning like multiple justice league movies though? I think you can get away with a tonal shift from BvS to Justice League, but it would be very odd to switch tones in the middle of a Justice league series.
 
Arent they planning like multiple justice league movies though? I think you can get away with a tonal shift from BvS to Justice League, but it would be very odd to switch tones in the middle of a Justice league series.

Why, you think other directors can not slide the saturation setting to 50%?
 
Is there a reason you guys believe Snyder isn't getting canned?

After this WB would be insane to entrust a whole new series of films to him. There is no way their shareholders would allow it.

Synder's chosen the production team and the cast. The script was written mostly with his input. All the pre-production work has been done by Synder and co. Shooting begins on the 11th.

A delay of the film and finding a new director to replace him, a director that will probably want rewrites and the ability to change the production team? Costly.

Warner Bros is essentially backed into a corner here. Do they leave Snyder on, knowing that poor word of mouth here will carry on into Justice League? Or do they incur significant cost trying to get rid of him?
 
I asked this, but Justice League begins filming in a week. Heavy pre-production work is being done was we speak, and people think it would cost too much to just delay it, let alone pausing it, getting rid of him, bringing a new team and reworking it all.

I still think they shouldn't but at this point JL can't be any worse and it's only that one movie. Maybe they'll limit his input in anything else... Still, it's a pretty important movie if you are using it to establish 3 other franchises you want to get off the ground, at least.

So, I don't know...

Yeah but like you said it establishes 3 other franchises. It's massively important. I can't see a board of shareholders willing to risk putting Snyder in control again. The DC universe is supposed to be a huge tent pole for them.

This is impossible but their best case scenario is bringing Nolan back as director and letting Snyder help with the action. They can keep the darker tone and get a competent story going and retain the Snyder for the only thing he is good at.
 
Synder's chosen the production team and the cast. The script was written mostly with his input. All the pre-production work has been done by Synder and co. Shooting begins on the 11th.

A delay of the film and finding a new director to replace him, a director that will probably want rewrites and the ability to change the production team? Costly.

Warner Bros is essentially backed into a corner here. Do they leave Snyder on, knowing that poor word of mouth here will carry on into Justice League? Or do they incur significant cost trying to get rid of him?
Just hire Brett Ratner. It worked out so well for X-Men: The Last Stand!
 
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