Ive refrained from most of these threads but you are cuckoo sir if you actually believe WB doesnt expect at the very minimum a billion from a movie called Batman vs Superman.
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Ive refrained from most of these threads but you are cuckoo sir if you actually believe WB doesnt expect at the very minimum a billion from a movie called Batman vs Superman.
Discotheque
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Uh have you seen what ezra miller looks like right now? His jaw structure gives Cavill a run for its money
Dude absolutely belongs there over Gustin visually
And performance wise I think the cartoon justice League flash would be a cake walk for him. Gustin is way less of a joker
PhoncipleBone
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Visuals don't matter for shit when his films completely fuck the characters themselves.
Even if, and that is a big if, the ultimate cut is a huge improvement over the theatrical, his characterizations for Batman and Superman are still shit.
Gordon Shumway
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What the hell is going on here? lol..
Strangelove77
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Cops get some of the goofiest and most unnatural sounding dialogue in the Nolan trilogy.
Very weird critique, but that's just how good those movies are. The police/Swat talk funny.
Very weird critique, but that's just how good those movies are. The police/Swat talk funny.
andythinkpad
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I think Nolan is on par with Zemeckis, which is basically the "very director who may make 2-3 great movie in his career" tier.
Inception and Interstellar are examples of great and meh movies he can make when he has complete control of the projects. Personally I am not too crazy about his Batman movies. I like Burton Batman slightly more.
Manmademan
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He made one legitimately good film in dawn of the dead.
"300" made bank but is a questionable film.
"watchmen" was average, and polarizing.
"legends of the guardians" I didn't see...and I don't know anyone else who did
"sucker punch" was abysmal and I bought that one
"man of steel" was a bit below average but not awful
"300 rise of an empire" he produced and wrote but didn't direct, and...uh...yeah, awful
"batman vs. superman" is getting savaged by critics, has awful WOM, and no legs.
the odds of JL being "good" are slim to none.
zemeckis had a fairly strong first half of his career.
Romancing the Stone
BTTF 1/2/3
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
Forrest Gump
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Cast Away
Matchstick Men
He just got old after MM. It happens. Snyder doesn't really have much of a chance of matching that resume.
Razgriz-Specter
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No name mobsters also tended to sound like they came straight out of Dick Tracey or something. I'm not really sure why so many bit parts decided to ham things up in the Dark Knight films.
BruceLeeRoy
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Ah man you don't like Bale? I thought he was perfect. I think he does a great Bruce Wayne and Batman. I love when he protects the snitch from Wayne Enterprises by letting the Ferrari get wrecked instead. The whole way he plays that part of bewilderment and self importance is great.
Plus him with Ledger was great. They flowed in their scenes. Sorry for the short answers I'm on my phone.
I agree with the plot holes in Rises and the ABYSMAL choreography. It's laughably bad. Still he made charachters that had enough depth and a story that was interesting enough that I cared. I also cut him a lot of slack since he had to pull the movie out of thin air when Ledger died and he had to scrap the whole other arc that he had in place.
He made one legitimately good film in dawn of the dead.
"300" made bank but is a questionable film.
"watchmen" was average, and polarizing.
"legends of the guardians" I didn't see...and I don't know anyone else who did
"sucker punch" was abysmal and I bought that one
"man of steel" was a bit below average but not awful
"300 rise of an empire" he produced and wrote but didn't direct, and...uh...yeah, awful
"batman vs. superman" is getting savaged by critics, has awful WOM, and no legs.
the odds of JL being "good" are slim to none.
He can't write nor direct anything but action. He is very good with action though. Far better than Bay. He should be part of a second unit that only handles those scenes
Discotheque
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Nah I mean check out what he looks like at the movie premiere. Which is how he will look for justice League since it's filming soon
Dude bulked up too.
Not my diagnosis!
PhoncipleBone
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Pics?
It's not that people don't think they won't let Snyder go. It's that they don't think they're gonna let him go next week. Keep him on a short leash and get through JL1, sure. Go through the costly and time consuming process of replacing him mere days before filming Justice League? Nah.
Well, when they were making it they were probably expecting a billion dollar franchise starter. When they started showing it to people, those expectations were then lowered drastically. To bring up that McWeeny thread from awhile back...
Rumor: Warner Brothers rethinking entire DC film slate based on Batman v Superman
Bobby Roberts
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A fart.
That is a fart happening.
Matchstick Men is Ridley Scott.
What makes you different from the rest of us!
BruceLeeRoy
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How do you keep him on a short leash? You need someone to actually make a good movie. The first movie especially after the cluster F that BvS is has to be great. Snyder won't make them a great movie
Strangelove77
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I love Tom Wilkinson and I liked the big speech he gives as Falcone in Begins, but it's a bit out of place considering the 2 next movies.
When viewed in a vacuum, Batman Begins by itself is really close to a good Batman animated episode. It's not as serious/grim as the next 2 films in the trilogy.
Still my favorite.
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Father_Brain
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WB's mismanagement of the DC properties is truly extraordinary, isn't it? They were so desperate for a two-films-a-year-forever megafranchise that they didn't bother to examine the strength of the foundation they were building it on.
Discotheque
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PhoncipleBone
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Dude looks like he could actually be tilda swintons son haha
Looks better than he did in BvS. At least he got rid of the facial hair.
Razgriz-Specter
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Discotheque
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Someone get this hothead outta here...
BruceLeeRoy
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Which is so insane considering how much money was on the table. It's why Disneys choices for StarWars have been so amazing to me. If any franchise could be rushed with nary a care for quality and still make money it's SW.
unpopularblargh
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Ridley Scott. Not Zemeckis.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Which wouldn't have been an issue in these films because they digitally augment the voice. Also would have made this older Batman seem more real because people would remember Bale and what he did in those films more vividly than imagining Affleck already going through it all.
call_kotaku
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I don't know if cartoon justice league is what Snyder and DC are going for
If Snyder directs the next movie, I won't go see it. Not unless the reviews are through the roof. Suspect there'll be many like me. This is why WB needs to take the hit. Delay filming and find a better director. What is tens of millions when you're losing potentially hundreds of millions to billions. The opportunity cost of moving forward with Snyder is clear. I think Affleck can be convinced to helm the movie.
BruceLeeRoy
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Yeah they should have gone that route. Of course Batman would have a voice scrambler
Of course not. Those are fun and universally beloved.
Bobby Roberts
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Warner Brothers has shitcanned a Justice League movie before. For reasons not as pressing as these, too.
Obliterator
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Losing Snyder entirely would be a mistake yes. They should at least keep him for art direction and honestly some individual scenes.
He should not be allowed to touch the script or dialogue though
Affleck doesn't have the directing chops for a big budget blockbuster though, and he's especially not equipped to take over at the last minute and salvage the project when he's never done something that size. Affleck admitted as much in interviews saying he still had a lot to learn about shooting action and for effects.
Manmademan
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you're right, he was producer on that one. My apologies, I've been drinking a LOT
Discotheque
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Have snyder direct the action sequences on second unit
The Hollywood equivalent of training your replacement before you are fired...
Why should he be sad anyways. This whole universe is his baby. I wonder how much bank he was expected to make off of them all
Who knows? Last minute script rewrites? Having Affleck be more hands on in the editing room? Give him less control? Who's to say what kind of conversations are happening at WB HQ right now.
I just doubt that the method that costs them the most money while they're currently thinking about all the money they're missing out on due to BvS underperforming is "Plan A."
The only way JLA gets a new director at this point is if it gets delayed.
Sibersk Esto
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lol why not Snyder's second unit? Damon Caro doesn't get enough love around here.
Primethius
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A crisis and Flash is all you need, yes!
Just relegate this Earth to some other Earth no one gives a shit about but is the first to die on Darkseids multiverse rampage.
Win-win!
Sibersk Esto
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I certainly wouldn't be opposed to it
Obliterator
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I really dont agree with the get rid of Snyder entirely statement. Its easy to bash him but there are other things he is actually fantastic at. Like legitimately talented at. DC needs to take control from him though and not allow him to be actually designing the story beats for the DCU
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Yeah I think everyone, including myself, is too quick to shit can snyder
He would be an excellent director for hire for this genre. The best of them all tbh. Dude just needs to be kept away from story input or even editing decisions for the most part. All of his movies are his artistic vision and outside of the aesthetic they are not good imo.
He would be an excellent director for hire for this genre. The best of them all tbh. Dude just needs to be kept away from story input or even editing decisions for the most part. All of his movies are his artistic vision and outside of the aesthetic they are not good imo.
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