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[ThoseDeafMutes]

Superman Returns is bad in an entirely distinct way from the way Man of Steel is bad, I'll give it that. Who was Lex, Kevin Spacey? He was so, so terrible. Also there was like an island made of Kryptonite? Jesus.

Luthor's plan is to use kryptonian technology to create a new continent in the atlantic ocean that will cause massive sea level increases and leave him in control of the world's only livable landmass.

It's like the plot of Superman 1 but they doubled down on the stupid.

 

[Divvy]

That's another problem with these cameos. Where the hell where Aquaman and WW when the World Engine was about to kill everyone on earth???

That's a good question lol

 

[broncobuster]

Luthor's plan is to use kryptonian technology to create a new continent in the atlantic ocean that will cause massive sea level increases and leave him in control of the world's only livable landmass.

It's like the plot of Superman 1 but they doubled down on the stupid.

It all makes sense. See, Superman's absence let Luthor go free. That's how the law works. Luthor spends five years aiding this old lady to take her fortune. With the funds he travels back to the Fortress of Solitude; remember this is a sequel to Superman II 26 years later, but not III and IV. He talks to Jor-El's hologram and makes wild assumptions about crystals. He tests the crystal in a basement on trainset, and to his own admission, doesn't know what it will do. Later he puts the crystal he doesn't know about inside a tube of kryptonite and assumes launching it into the sea will create a giant landmass laced with radioactive kryptonite. It all works in the end. And for some reason he developed a wig obsession in those five years.

 

[Poona]

They spent more on the promo shots featuring Aquaman than they on the actual cameo.

Yeah, I thought he'd have more of an influence in BvS due to the figures and other merch that got made of him.

That's another problem with these cameos. Where the hell where Aquaman and WW when the World Engine was about to kill everyone on earth???

WW can be explained as doing other things in Themyscira, etc but I was really hoping they'd have a way to link Aquaman to MoS. I still think the whale in MoS was a nod to him.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

That's another problem with these cameos. Where the hell where Aquaman and WW when the World Engine was about to kill everyone on earth???

Not doing shit, because apparently Superman just left the world engine lying around in the ocean

 

[StopMakingSense]

Luthor's plan is to use kryptonian technology to create a new continent in the atlantic ocean that will cause massive sea level increases and leave him in control of the world's only livable landmass.

It's like the plot of Superman 1 but they doubled down on the stupid.

Superman Returns has no clear concept of wether it is a remake or a sequel. It so incredibly muddles the line between the two that the result is just a complete fucking mess.

A good contrast to this is The Force Awakens, which very competently exists as both a sequel and a remake.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Superman Returns has no clear concept of wether it is a remake or a sequel. It so incredibly muddles the line between the two that the result is just a complete fucking mess.

A good contrast to this is The Force Awakens, which very competently exists as both a sequel and a remake.

I'm actually fairly unhappy with how much of a remake TFA was, although it's still solid overall.

 

[kurahador]

Superman Returns has no clear concept of wether it is a remake or a sequel. It so incredibly muddles the line between the two that the result is just a complete fucking mess.

A good contrast to this is The Force Awakens, which very competently exists as both a sequel and a remake.

What about 2011 The Thing? A prequel/remake of 1982 The Thing.

 

[StopMakingSense]

What about 2011 The Thing? A prequel/remake of 1982 The Thing.

You know I never saw the 2011 The Thing

 

[inky]

It all makes sense. See, Superman's absence let Luthor go free. That's how the law works. Luthor spends five years aiding this old lady to take her fortune. With the funds he travels back to the Fortress of Solitude; remember this is a sequel to Superman II 26 years later, but not III and IV. He talks to Jor-El's hologram and makes wild assumptions about crystals. He tests the crystal in a basement on trainset, and to his own admission, doesn't know what it will do. Later he puts the crystal he doesn't know about inside a tube of kryptonite and assumes launching it into the sea will create a giant landmass laced with radioactive kryptonite. It all works in the end. And for some reason he developed a wig obsession in those five years.

Marlon Brando explains to him how the crystals work, it just happens offscreen. Could have been a little cryptic considering he was drunk for most of it ;P but he has a close idea of what it would do, and the small size test is successful.

 

[Zeyphersan]

In a theater right now, there are 6 people total including my girlfriend and I. And this is $5 ticket tuesday

 

[kswiston]

Zootopia's worldwide total is now $799.6M, meaning that it grossed about $12M WW on Monday.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Superman Returns has no clear concept of wether it is a remake or a sequel.

Nah, it absolutely knows it's a sequel. The problem is that it's a sequel to an (as of its release) unseen, previously theorized version of Superman II, which was then also transposed into modern day. It doesn't bear much similarity to Superman: The Movie on any storytelling level.

Force Awakens isn't really a remake, either. Pretty direct sequel. That it bears structural similarities to previous movies (plural not an accident) doesn't change it's basic nature.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Zootopia's worldwide total is now $799.6M, meaning that it grossed about $12M WW on Monday.

The 3.1m was domestic for bats right?

 

[broncobuster]

Marlon Brando explains to him how the crystals work, it just happens offscreen. Could have been a little cryptic considering he was drunk for most of it ;P but he has a close idea of what it would do, and the small size test is successful.

That's what I used to think. Had it on the other night and he's bewildered during the small test. Parker Posey as not-Eve pokes fun at the initial failure. Another aspect of Returns I forgot, lots and lots of Kal Penn standing and looking.

 

[kswiston]

The 3.1m was domestic for bats right?

Ya. WW was over $14M for Monday.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

What about 2011 The Thing? A prequel/remake of 1982 The Thing.

Where was 2011 Thing a Remake? Its clear a Prequel only.

 

[Cheerilee]

Sometimes I like to pretend Enchanted is an illusion Cyclops is having thanks to Mastermind.

I thought you said Megamind.

...

Metro Man is a better Superman than Snyderverse Superman, and Metro Man faked his own death just so he could have some personal time.

 

[Eferim]

So Rth posted an image of a comic cover representing BvS' Tuesday:

He also added "thinking time". There's speculation as to whether this means 3.7, 3.9, or 2.7. 3.7 and 3.9 make more sense for Tuesday, especially since they require more "thinking" to derive them, but the webpage the image comes from is titled "Detective Comics #27" meaning Rth specifically looked for issue #27.

So yeah, I'm not really sure.

Another good point is that 27 represents the percentage. So perhaps a 27% increase from yesterday (or decrease, though I doubt it).

 

[Branduil]

A big problem I have with the Superman movies is they don't seem to realize any Superman villains exist besides Luthor and Zod(or the really dumb villains they invented for III and IV). The other big problem is none of the Luthors on film have actually been good.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

A big problem I have with the Superman movies is they don't seem to realize any Superman villains exist besides Luthor and Zod(or the really dumb villains they invented for III and IV). The other big problem is none of the Luthors on film have actually been good.

Zod is kind of like a free package deal with the origin story because Superman and Zod come from the same place so there's no additional explanation required other than how he escaped. Luthor more than any of the others is purely iconic, I'd say more people know Lex Luthor than General Zod (although Zod is not obscure or anything).

Many of the others are either borrowed or not that well known. So as far as first or second movies, I know why they stick with those two.

 

[Principate]

Zod is kind of like a free package deal with the origin story because Superman and Zod come from the same place so there's no additional explanation required other than how he escaped. Luthor more than any of the others is purely iconic, I'd say more people know Lex Luthor than General Zod (although Zod is not obscure or anything).

Many of the others are either borrowed or not that well known. So as far as first or second movies, I know why they stick with those two.

I can understand that especially as far as setting up a Superman franchise goes. The issue with lex, is that he can't directly compete with Superman in any meaningful level without Kyrptonite, which is an extremely overdone and well known plot point at after this level of exposure to the superman franchise. He excells as an intricate for which over the course of a single film usually ends up simply being bond villainy due to the writers poor imagination.

Zod is a bit easier to work and allows the writer to add whatever thematic comparison the want relatively, but he tends to end up smply being the 3rd act comic book movie villain where action set pieces drown out everything else.

I believe Luthor works better as a long form serialised villain, but I feel a large scope in villain type would aid the franhise on the big screen due to it's relative staleness.

 

[kswiston]

So Rth posted an image of a comic cover representing BvS' Tuesday:

He also added "thinking time". There's speculation as to whether this means 3.7, 3.9, or 2.7. 3.7 and 3.9 make more sense for Tuesday, especially since they require more "thinking" to derive them, but the webpage the image comes from is titled "Detective Comics #27" meaning Rth specifically looked for issue #27.

So yeah, I'm not really sure.

Another good point is that 27 represents the percentage. So perhaps a 27% increase from yesterday (or decrease, though I doubt it).

$3.9m would make the most sense given discount Tuesday. That would be a pretty big Tuesday increase though. I guess people want to see the film on the cheap.

 

[javac]

BVS showing was packed yesterday, 7PM UK showing, very surprised.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I can understand that especially as far as setting up a Superman franchise goes. The issue with lex, is that he can't directly compete with Superman in any meaningful level without Kyrptonite, which is an extremely overdone and well known plot point at after this level of exposure to the superman franchise. He excells as an intricate for which over the course of a single film usually ends up simply being bond villainy due to the writers poor imagination.

Zod is a bit easier to work and allows the writer to add whatever thematic comparison the want relatively, but he tends to end up smply being the 3rd act comic book movie villain where action set pieces drown out everything else.

I believe Luthor works better as a long form serialised villain, but I feel a large scope in villain type would aid the franhise on the big screen due to it's relative staleness.

I think having Lex in the background for a couple of films, pulling strings and doing his best to undermine Superman before having him come out as the full-blown villain in the third instalment would work best. Maybe even have him working alongside another powerhouse villain who can battle Superman physically, but have Lex be the scheming manipulating mastermind behind it all. A bit like Blofeld from SPECTRE, except not shit.

 

[Anth0ny]

$3.9m would make the most sense given discount Tuesday. That would be a pretty big Tuesday increase though. I guess people want to see the film on the cheap.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Tuesday showings were packed yesterday, and probably next Tuesday as well.

People want to see Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, but they know the film is shit, so they don't want to pay full price.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Looks like the NCAA game last night suppressed the box office - very large bounce backs across the board.

http://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-chart/daily/2016/04/05

BvS came in at $4.1m, though with a smaller bounce than most in the top 10.

Zootopia/BvS stream crossing getting closer every day.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

BvS getting back.
I wonder why.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

BvS getting back.
I wonder why.

#SupportDCfilms

 

[GhaleonEB]

BvS getting back.
I wonder why.

Tuesday is discount day. Maybe if they put BvS tickets on permanent discount it will roar back!

 

[DeathyBoy]

Tuesday is discount day. Maybe if they put BvS tickets on permanent discount it will roar back!

You should see a doctor about your salt levels.

 

[GhaleonEB]

You should see a doctor about your salt levels.

What on earth.

I'm not salty, and have nothing to be salty about. (I'm not even sure what that means.) It was a dumb joke pivoting off a silly post.

The bounce back does alter the trajectory for the week, though. Everything got a pretty good lift and it positions BvS better for the week than we'd thought on Monday.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

#SupportDCfilms

I still refuse to believe that shit is real.

 

[Arnie7]

Looks like the NCAA game last night suppressed the box office - very large bounce backs across the board.

http://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-chart/daily/2016/04/05

BvS came in at $4.1m, though with a smaller bounce than most in the top 10.

Zootopia/BvS stream crossing getting closer every day.

Hell yeah! Everything looking up for Milhouse.

#SupportDCfilms

 

[pestul]

For perspective, that $4.1M for BvS was still over $1M less than Deadpool's 2nd Tuesday though..

 

[Dash_Riprock]

For perspective, that $4.1M for BvS was still over $1M less than Deadpool's 2nd Tuesday though..

Now, why did you have to come in here and say that?

 

[Bobby Roberts]

For perspective, that $4.1M for BvS was still over $1M less than Deadpool's 2nd Tuesday though..

I know the employees aren't supposed to discuss each other's earnings openly, but how much is Marvel giving you? I just wanna make sure I'm not getting hosed here on my check. Answer via PM pls, thanks.

 

[pestul]

Now, why did you have to come in here and say that?

Sorry.. #SupportDCFilms

 

[Permanently A]

I know the employees aren't supposed to discuss each other's earnings openly, but how much is Marvel giving you? I just wanna make sure I'm not getting hosed here on my check. Answer via PM pls, thanks.

Now, why did you have to come in here and say that?

#SupportDCFilms

 

[BLACKLAC]

For perspective, that $4.1M for BvS was still over $1M less than Deadpool's 2nd Tuesday though..

...... Has been deposited into your account.

 

[vinnygambini]

Y'all are crazy, #SupportDivergentFilms

 

[inky]

For perspective, that $4.1M for BvS was still over $1M less than Deadpool's 2nd Tuesday though..

Upward trajectory tho. Maybe it will have a 200 million third weekend now.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Y'all are crazy, #SupportDivergentFilms

I feel like you are gunning for a new tag or something.

 

[vinnygambini]

I feel like you are gunning for a new tag or something.

The series is a guilty pleasure of mine, much like Transformers. I love them.

Spoiler

I'm sorry Phonciple

 

[Son Of D]

I feel like you are gunning for a new tag or something.

It's getting quite annoying tbh.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Hope Hardcore Henry works out well.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Hope Hardcore Henry works out well.

I want to see if people vomiting in the cinema

 

[PhoncipleBone]

The series is a guilty pleasure of mine, much like Transformers. I love them.

Spoiler

I'm sorry Phonciple

No worries at all. It just sticks out is all.

 

[guek]

I want to see if people vomiting in the cinema

I'm debating eating a special brownie 90 minutes before seeing it this weekend. It'll either be a brilliant move or a horrible mistake

 

[StopMakingSense]

Y'all are crazy, #SupportDivergentFilms

In the last movie Tris will be so extra special divergent that she will leave the screen, and proceed to murder everyone not watching Divergent. Every movie released from that day forward will be a part of the Divergent Cinematic Universe. All hail Lionsgate.