chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
This seems optimistic.
Giant Bomb: PS4.5 / PS4K is codenamed NEO, more info
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This seems optimistic.
Coolbgdog12
Member
Can anyone explain this in Dragonball Z terms for me?
I can agree with this, but if the rumored stats are fake, I have no clue what Nintendo is aiming at and it worries me.
Keep em' coming gentlemen. I'm still waiting to hear a legitimate reason why this is the end of gaming as we know it.
wapplew
Member
MS will have more problem if they try to make big jump.
They either go full gen and leave OG Xbox one behind or the make OG Xbox one look really really bad.
Plus OG Xbox one will hold back whatever jump they trying to achieve if they apply forward compatible.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
It's more toxic than a lot of (often PC-focused) types here think, for both devs and ordinary consumers. Hopefully this idea burns to the ground because it pleases nobody, least of all the early adopters every console needs and Sony got this cycle.
People like actual upgrades.
But people will buy it and the incentive are whatever technical/graphical improvements the NEO brings. The points listed in the OP show they don't want to split the userbase. They would be stupid to drop support the OG PS4 when it will no doubt be at like 60 million sold Worldwide.
Zombie James
Banned
The hyperbole...
If NEO launches late this year, that's three years after the PS4. That's less than a traditional cycle and I don't like it, but let's not go nuts calling this a smartphone cycle or throwing out pessimistic numbers to make things seem worse than it is.
The PS4 is Vegeta.
The PS4 Neo is Goku.
No matter how well the PS4 will run a game, the Neo will just run it better.
Sparrowhawk
Member
Honestly wonder if this will affect Final Fantasy XV.
Hatty
Member
So no change then
MvmntInGrn
Member
According to this rumor, and its all we have, no? It actually says pretty much the opposite.
Obliterator
Member
Well that's a freaking day 1 purchase for me. That a quite a bit better GPU and the CPU'S clock speed increase is nice.
This will provide a real tangible difference in game quality. This will be huge for games like FFXV
This will provide a real tangible difference in game quality. This will be huge for games like FFXV
gundamkyoukai
Member
This has nothing to do with apple .
Answer me this which consumer devices don't get upgrades every year .
Everything else does plus we hitting a wall so it going to be harder to get a huge jump in a short time.
perfectsil
Member
So Ps4 Trinity 2019?
Orthogonal
Member
Well, better be saving up. Old PS4 trade in value will tank, so might as well keep it as a spare for the kids.
According to semi accurate, this was always the plan, pre-ps4 launch. And who wants this? The same people who would pay $150+ for a controller or $1000+ for a gfx card.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
No, no, they will either go to NX (which is rumored to go to same model) or better yet PC (where specs change every year or even more often). That will show Soony and that Cerny fellow.
MMaRsu
Banned
Thats not neccesarily not saying they wont incentive you to buy the ps4 neo does it? It just says there wont be any special features as in unlockables etc.
When your regular ps4 runs the newest game at 20fps with screentearing and no aa but the ps4 neo has the real shit because its not really optimized for the old ps4. Oh well you can think of so many situations.
it was a joke :/
BadAss2961
Member
On the NX being more powerful than the PS4, i'm still waiting to see it to believe it. Shouldn't be difficult at this point, but you have to be a little skeptical with Nintendo when it comes to power.
No matter what, only a niche group of gamers would switch to Nintendo for multiplatform games. Sony already has this gen locked up. The only time they'll be vulnerable is when they have to move on to the PS5.
I'll wait to see how NEO performs with standard 1080p games before buying. If Uncharted 4's, God of War's, and Guerrilla games start pushing 60fps, i'm sold.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is my one worry here.
Filthy Casual
Member
So it's not a major upgrade? What's the point then? Just seems unnecessary. I personally won't be paying another 350 for some nicer textures and a bit of a smoother frame rate. It's pointless really. And I'm not sure most of the console crowd will do either. How's about give us good games instead?
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Don't be so ready to drink the kool-aid. The article says developers can't include Neo-exclusive features like extra skins or modes for the Neo version, but the whole point of this system is to be an upgrade.
What this means is that if you own a normal PS4, expect load times to get longer, resolutions to get lower, and framerates to get worse. It's like the New Nintendo 3DS: Smash Bros. is technically the same game regardless of whether you're playing on a new or old 3DS, but if you're playing it on an old 3DS, you have to sit through a 20 second load before you get to the title screen.
If this upgrade wasn't going to offer improvements like this then they wouldn't be doing it. Don't be so naive.
To combat a 3 year cycle on consoles you will convert to a platform where new hardware comes out on a yearly basis.
In fairness, PC is much different in that games aren't set and locked to a particular level of performance. You can dial in great performance even as your hardware ages by changing settings, or adjust the graphics to prioritize good visuals over framerate. You can also make small updates to specific components to fix bottlenecks you may have without the cost of a whole new system.
PS4 and "Neo" would be a lot different in that you'd just have two choices, and the difference between those two choices will be hundreds of dollars. So while you have a point about annual hardware... it's not the same thing.
ShadowFox08
Member
With the specs on the OP... Can someone tell me how much more powerful is the PS4 Neo in CPU, GPU, and RAM over the regular PS4?
OH and.. Obligatory post. ._.
edit: So 30% better CPU, slightly better RAM... and is it exactly 2x the GPU in power?
OH and.. Obligatory post. ._.
edit: So 30% better CPU, slightly better RAM... and is it exactly 2x the GPU in power?
KillerMan91
Member
The irony is strong with your posts in this thread considering your avatar. Did the recent Fire Emblem game on 3DS run like shit on original 3DS?
CrispyBoar
Banned
Thank goodness I haven't owned a PS4 yet. Guess I'll hold off for the Neo.
Did you not read the OP? There won't be anything exclusive on the Neo.
Did you not read the OP? There won't be anything exclusive on the Neo.
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
As long as exclusives don't start running like shit on the OG PS4, this is fine with me. I was that initial, "significant concessions to the OG version of games" or however it was phrased that I didn't want. If they are releasing full products, and then possibly going back later to make a more optimized version for high specs, then sure. Nobody loses in that regard.
Dang this means I may actually have a chance get to play KH3, SFV and FFXV instead of missing out like I pretty much I assumed I would miss out on.
So the PS4 will be the better character?
So the PS4 will be the better character?
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
No Polaris or gddr5x?
No Zen cpu?
Damn
The bandwidth upgrade seems weak for what could be a near 4 tflop GPU?
Nothing about UHD bluray but assuming this is on the cards I'll have to purchase one...
No Zen cpu?
Damn
The bandwidth upgrade seems weak for what could be a near 4 tflop GPU?
Nothing about UHD bluray but assuming this is on the cards I'll have to purchase one...
Though there likely won't be anything stopping them from releasing games that are NEO-only in a practical sense like Hyrule Warriors. Like, games that DO have a Base Mode, but it runs at 720p/20fps.
yeah sony is going to want developers to tank software sales for the millions of ps4s out there by having shitty ps4 performance so everyone upgrades to the 4k.
PS4 just used kaiokenx2.
family_guy
Member
Yeah. I don't see that happening. Once you're already invested in an ecosystem you'd need a bigger incentive to switch than "it looks a little better". The online infrastructure is still an area that Nintendo hasn't been proven themselves competent in and at this point in time they have no equivalent PS+ or Xbox Live Gold service that gives additional benefits.
The talk about PS4.5 has cooled down dramatically so it makes little sense to get the flow back at its maximum with informations that would have been welcomed for the E3 announcement. But why not.
ElMexiMerican
Member
I can see now why Sony would go back and update their exclusives, I'm still just having trouble to see the incentive for any third party to go and update their games. I can't see the new sales being that great to be a big enough incentive for them to do so. It would mainly be an act of good will, and I'm just being pessimistic in thinking that many companies would not want to allocate resources into doing that. I suppose it really does depend on how easy the process is; if it's as simple as we hope, then possibly. Time will certainly tell though.
Deserted Maniac Island
Member
If this is marketed towards "hardcore" gamers, it going to do okay, I don't see this being a runway success the PS4 is (Was?). But, outside of that the general consumer will either feel alienated, or not know what the PS4k is. And before people say phones are doing and general consumer is okay with, when people buy smart phones they already know there is going to be a new one coming out next year. Or may the price drop of PS4 will boost sales, and "hardcore" gamers will be happy with a more powerful console.
MikeE21286
Member
Tech guys. Tell us, will this even amount to any type of significant improvement in performance and/or resolution. Seems like nominal upgrades....
Aztechnology
Member
I'm actually pleasantly surprised after 100's of pages and dozen's of threads proclaiming the end of the world over the initial announcements that had no bearing in reality.
Zombegoast
Member
The Neo is Super Goku, Stronger but his muscles(Jaguar) slow him down.
Money obviously.