Mizzou Gaming
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I am one of those people but if I have to upgrade again two years down the line again then all of a sudden I was forced into caring because consoles no longer exist.
Giant Bomb: PS4.5 / PS4K is codenamed NEO, more info
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I am one of those people but if I have to upgrade again two years down the line again then all of a sudden I was forced into caring because consoles no longer exist.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
It's basically the "updated" 280X (Tahiti XTL).
For comparison, the PS4 is basically a 270 with a weak CPU.
HE'S OUT IN THE OPEN! CATCH HIM!
Obliterator
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Yep both good people. We just need a wild Shinobi to show up to make everything complete
Ah yeah and Verendus as well he's a cool cat as well. Throw in GopherD too. Let's just make this shit crazy
I have seriously $748 in GameStop credit, make that $848 if I trade in an iPad mini I don't use anymore. hehe
I can buy this and NX no problemo. Not even spend a dime.
But seriously this doesn't seem like that big of a deal in terms of spec bumps. Can tech gaf elaborate on how this will improve games?
I can buy this and NX no problemo. Not even spend a dime.
But seriously this doesn't seem like that big of a deal in terms of spec bumps. Can tech gaf elaborate on how this will improve games?
Considering how broken their games have been with normal testing on one sku? Yes.
But I use EA and Activision as examples because they have weight they can throw around. What happens when someone like Atlus or Capcom release a game and the NEO mode simply doesn't work or doesn't pass cert?
Again, this is good for Sony, but I bet in 6 months time after the neo's release, their relationship with a lot of devs will be a lot more strained than it is now.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
You haven't been using it in the low power mode that it was designed to be used. It works, but not as it should.
Backfoggen
Banned
Please have a Bloodborne patch to support this
NippleViking
Banned
As others have written, they were pretty much the most prolific and accurate leaker GAF has ever seen. In the space of 24 hours, totally out-of-the-blue, they disclosed all of MS's plans and announcements for their year and E3, and also detailed a fair bit of future stuff.
It was all particularly significant as it was early in the X1's life, and it still carried its reveal stigma.
theifofdreams
Member
Bought day 1 ps4, day 1 Xbox one. Got a 4K tv this year and now that 4K is quickly becoming a standard, I will but this and an Xbox 1.5 if they better support my tvs format.
Hexa
Member
That's actually somewhat confusing for me. Digital Foundry said that most devs did not know about it and even some high level people at Sony didn't. But if they need to have profiles ready this October, then you would think this would already be in most devs hands, or it's really damn easy to do profiles for it.
We don't know yet, but based on it being open world the fps is probably CPU bound, in which case if it's running at around 45 on the regular PS4 it would hit 60fps on Neo. Until we know the specifics and how they're planning on optimizing we can't say for sure though. Frame rate is largely going to be on a case by case basis though I personally think a jump from 30fps to 60fps is going to be a thing for very few open world games.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Something tells me the were well aware of Sony's plans - this time.
IcyRhythms
Member
Microsoft should just take this beating. Don't release a more powerful XB1. There is NOTHING they can do to catch the PS4. Sony releasing another more powerful machine only hurts XB1 chances further. Bring out a true next generation console next year or the year after and surprise everyone, including Sony.
fastballspecial
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I'm at work so I can't read through the thread.
Based on the specs I saw, if this thing is $399 it's not really worth it, is it? I definitely would buy one if the change was substantial enough but I don't see it here. Is that fair?
And I do own a PS4 already.
Based on the specs I saw, if this thing is $399 it's not really worth it, is it? I definitely would buy one if the change was substantial enough but I don't see it here. Is that fair?
And I do own a PS4 already.
NippleViking
Banned
And they can't play the same game, why?
The PS4 is not being shortchanged in any way GUYS. What's with the attitudes!?
What about if Sony supports Freesync. Amd has gotten it to work over HDMI. Of course, you'd need a TV or monitor with adaptive sync support.
What is "all possible compression?"
Regardless, a 380x only has 182gb/s max bandwith and only has 32 cus close to the rumored ps4.5 specs, and it can run 4k 30 fps at decent settings depending on the title. If a ps4 can run an Xbox game at 1080p, things can be adjusted to run stuff on a ps4.5 at 4k 30fps, provided this is a 4tflop part as it would seem to be. An optimized console set up at 4k 30 fps isn't the same thing as a 380x either.
someone needs to combine jurassicparkbutts.gif with the bat signal
Calm waterfall
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Some reactions in this thread are hilarious.
Crimson_Gold
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Cboat died so that ntknl could live
AstroNut325
Member
You're being forced to upgrade?
I hope Microsoft does this. Matching even the Neo would be a mistake. Xbox needs to overtake them, that would make things real interesting.
GHG
Member
What broken games from EA? Have I missed something?
And no, because EA support IOS, Android, last gen consoles and the PC which all require similar levels of testing.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Not being able to say "I own the technical superior console" hurts some people.
Fess
Member
Who says it doesn't?
Nobody thought PS4 would only last 3 years before an upgrade was available. How do we know this one will last even 3 years? Updating the hardware every year is standard practise in many segments of the electronics industry where Sony is a major contributor. If this 3 years before upgrade idea is successful I wouldn't rule out faster upgrades. I'd say that it all depends on how the market reacts to this.
ninjablade
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That ain't happening, developers already take advantage of pc extra power compared to consoles, you think developers are not gonna take advantage of ps4k which will have potential to sell way units then a pc which has thousands of configurations.
IcyRhythms
Member
It's a game they'll continue to lose. They can, but I'm not sure if they should.
The classic idea of a console generation is done. Microsoft will be bringing an updated Xbox out and everything moving forward will be backwards compatible. Sony appears to be moving that way as well.
Time to sell my PS4! I want to be ready for PSVR and PS4 Neo when it drops. Summer Lesson will be my killer app and I'll be damned if it runs better on Neo and I didn't do my best to rectify the problem.
Mediking
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!!!!!!!!!!! Hey, man!!! I haven't seen you in a while!
AstroNut325
Member
Why does that even matter? Even if Sony moves to a yearly update cycle and joins the Apple style iterative model, they're not going to abandon the 40 million users of the OG PS4.
GHG
Member
Microsoft want this to happen more than anyone else considering their current push to be the next Apple.
NullPointer
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Colonel Nasty
Member
Is there gonna be a new forum so I don't have to interact with the OG PS4 peasants?
PeterLegend
Member
Final Fantasy XV needs the PS4K, it literally runs like poop on PS4 and looks bad too.
"And for another 699, you can get a 32 inch LCD Playstation TV, now with Adaptive sync!"
No sony won't bother with that because they can't test for it.
After the Vive/Occulus launch, I just question Sony's ability to say "This must be 30/60/90 or NO DEAL!" and have it mean anything. Because they mean well, but people making the stuff for their hardware are going to make things their way in the end, or go elsewhere.
neogaf gold
Hexa
Member
Damn right. Nothing but the best for our waifus. xD
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Because the logical limits to manufacting, distribution and retail apply here.
Also actually yes Sony has always provided a updated SKU of their consoles every 3 years. Its called a Slim. The only difference here is that this Slim will have a bump in power.
This console's GPU power is over 3 times the power of the XB1's GPU, as opposed to 50% for the OG PS4 to XB1...that's pretty significant.
Its not a generational leap or anything close to it, but it is notable and significant for 399 especially considering OG PS4 has not dropped below 300 yet.
Colonel Nasty
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Guess I won't see you there since you just broke a rule
Mizzou Gaming
Member
And if the trend continues? Two years later another slightly more powerful machine releases and then two more years.
If this is successful you think they will stop there? I don't think people realize the precedent they might be setting here. Success of this thing very well could end up being a big nightmare down the line.
Qwell
Member
Same, mine has worked flawlessly since the feature released besides when the power goes out.
"well, we can always go to the NX if we don't want to do this NEO mode, right?"