Jawbreaker
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Uncharted 4 - A Thief's |Reviews Thread| Nateness Awaits
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Are things less peaceful elsewhere?
IanVanCheese
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Not got a PS4 yet, but it looks like UC4 is joining Ratchet and Clank on my must-buy list when I get one later this year. Congrats Naughty Dog.
ieatzombies
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So. I just finshed the Nioh demo. I have to play this, DSIII, Ratchet and Clank and Doom. Kill me now before I die. Deus ex?? This month man.
Then that's the narrative quagmire they've gotten themselves into. That doesn't mean people can't have a problem with it.
Anyway, that's the last thing I'll say about that. This is going nowhere.
Speaking of tone, that problem was much worse inLast of Us exactly for that reason.
Ever since they started to push the more human side in Uncharted, with 3, I guess it became more evident there, but otherwise, I think the jolly tone of Uncharted is exactly what makes it get away with it easier.
As opposed to Tomb Raider Reboot, taking itself so seriously, having a dark world, where it feels like death has weight, and then falling flat on its face once you start playing.
Its the comedy that saved Uncharted so far.
People pointing it out are usually (and I haven't played Uncharted 4, so I'm referring to past mentions) just joking around, like when they apply human politics to Super Mario and similar jokes.
It works as a joke, but doesn't hold up that well under further scrutiny.
How many are there now?
24 i think.
I agree with you, but then I think of 2013 Tomb Raider. I did find the amount of enemies in that game jarring. Maybe that's because Lara had never shot a gun before, she got upset killing a deer and within 2 hours was mowing down hundreds of people. So I'm not sure if i'm a hypocrite on this one. Ideally Tomb Raider should have had the same amount of enemies as the last of us. That would have been tonally perfect for me.
IGN has too much weight and EDGE is the last big one that is missing I think, so it's almost impossible.
If EDGE doesn't give a 10/10, there is no chance anymore for that to happen and it could possibly even go down to 93 if IGN's final score is a 8.8 and there are more < 9.5/10 scores.
redflamingolingo
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At this rate, it has a strong chance.
Chubby Rain
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Where exactly? These are amazing scores, it's crazy how people can get worked up over review scores like somehow it effects their enjoyment for a game.
Primethius
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Sure. And the last thing I'll say on the matter as well is:
I'm not going to call out the game in the series that handles the subject the best because of the baggage of the past three games that released over the course of 10 years across several different writers.
And I'm certainly not going to call it bad story telling because the writer tried to fit the story within the narrative framework already established in the series.
The complaint would have more merit if it was the first game in a series. But it isn't.
DeepEnigma
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We know why, but then that will be attacked too, lol.
Let's just rejoice in this relatively peaceful review thread for a big ticket release.
GAF is growing up.
Skimming the thread and there's still way too many people questioning the IGN review - "how can this woman give Tomb Raider 9.3 and UC4 only an 8.8!?" Uh I dunno? Maybe because she very slightly preferred the former?
Well, did they complain about this issue in UC2 or UC3? If the reviewers knew about the direction that the game is headed, then it's ridiculous for them to bring it up now. This is the last game, you can't expect ND to do a 180.
The reason the "mass murderer" stuff is only a problem in Tomb Raider reboot is that cutscene Lara is very different from gameplay Lara, and that's a completely valid complaint. In Uncharted though, you start UC1 with Drake reaching for a gun and acting nonchalantly about the situation as soon as he realizes pirates are coming, Sully is even prepared to go to town on the pirates should it come down to that. I thought it was just a meme to joke about, but I didn't think a reviewer would actually complain about that, in the fourth (fifth) entry...
Primethius
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I'd be nice to see but I hope not. Those guys have really proven themselves in my eyes. I can't wait to see what they do going forward.
PeregrinSe7en
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pretty much
here's one such poster disapointed things didnt work out the way they almost assuredly thought they would
Acquiescence
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The Game Collection are notorious for shipping copies early. If mine gets dispatched tomorrow then I will shit my pants in exorbitant joy.
SolidSnakeUS
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Anyone else have their copy from Best Buy at "Preparing to Ship"?
ninjablade
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24 perfect reviews on metracritic, i vastly prefer last of us to uncharted, but this game looks amazing, much better then the other games, and i vastly prefer my games to have a more serious tone.
Nightengale
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Shu & Shawn will let Evans and Balestra decide if anyone else in ND is worthy of taking the seats left empty by Amy Hennig and Justin Richmond.
redflamingolingo
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It is all a matter of opinion, but UC4 wipes the floor with RotTR. The latter has a laughably horrible, horrible story with exceptional graphics.
UC4 has a great story and industry-leading graphical fidelity.
It's the stronger game by far.
Yeah. I believe it would be a good condition for Sony to "impose" on ND so they can continue working with the privileges they currently possess.
We will give you the money you ask for, you will take the time you need, we'll be open for more new IPs, but Bruce and Neil must direct the projects for now.
GravityInsanity
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Argh, ok, this is the last thing I'll say about this topic.
Maybe the criticism is because people have a bias against Uncharted. Why? You'll have to tell me.
Or maybe it's because Nathan Drake is such a fleshed out and believable character otherwise that people associate with him the real world characteristics that would define his actions.
It's a pitfall of a narrative focus. If you want to have great characters they'll be scrutinized all the more. It's the reason why people will call Nathan Drake a mass-murderer and not Call of Duty dude. It is the same reason why people make a bigger deal of it with Uncharted than with The Last of Us, where it actually aids the narrative.
redflamingolingo
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I hope not. They just proved that lightning can strike twice in the same spot. They are masters of their craft and working at the peak of their powers.
Why? They have been always counted...
How does this have any relevancy to my post? Clearly the IGN reviewer didn't agree and people questioning her opinon are being dumb.
Also, this discussion we just had on UC4 and the meme.
Can't wait until you guys see the name of one of the trophies.
"Mass Muderderer" - Kill 1000 enemies
PeregrinSe7en
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it'll have stronger sales too
ninjablade
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ign also gives 8s to almost every descent big game these day
Audioboxer
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Reviews and opinions are fantastic and some are still obsessing over going from 94 metacritic to 95... eeek, lol.
redflamingolingo
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That'll make 26, 20 fucking 6 perfect scores. Jesus.
I don't claim to understand it fully and it is a pretty deep topic. I just don't want it to become a taboosubject and dismissed with 'lol, stupid reviewer with stupid feelings'.
I do know that story free killing games like nuclear throne are enjoyed by my wife; as are story games like tlou Elly dlc; but character games with emotional stories with that disconnect are not. It would be awesome to read a great analysis of this topic comparing tlou with UC4.
Looks like you'll love this Uncharted game the most. Can't wait to really experiment with the cat and mouse & melee gameplay in combat situations.
GravityInsanity
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They probably will be added later.
everyday math
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Fo real fo real. I was expecting it to be sitting at 88 average by now but gladly was proven wrong. This game is the real deal but deep down we all knew this if we kept up with ND progress.
redflamingolingo
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I thought they've been trending with score inflation really. I dunno.
Do we know if they count them? should have been calculated by now.
Tricky I Shadow
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As much as I want to be right about my 94 MC prediction, when all is said and done I'm pretty confident the final MC score will be 93 (even if EDGE gives the game a 10).
? Have you literally never read a single thread thing about tomb raider then? Its one of the most damn common complainers about it.
People who have played and beat the game already, does the game have more intense action sequences like the official extended gameplay demo of last year's E3? Because if yes holy shit I might end up buying a PS4 this weekend for this game.
Nightengale
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Who was Bruce Straley before being given a chance to prove himself a game director with Uncharted 2? An art director with art background.
Who was Neil Druckmann before being given a lead designer/co-writer role in UC2 which landed him the Creative Director role for TLoU? A programmer working on the UI of Jak X Combat Racing.
I agree that Bruce & Neil is a power-duo capable of pushing their respective craft immensely. But I also believe that potential can exist in any ND-staff right now, so if there's someone showing potential, I'd be down to give them a shot at a new game.
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