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Last night however, in a text conversation, I mentioned to her that I wanted to kiss her that night. She says something along the lines of, basically, er dude we're not a couple. Completely threw me off.

Try not to express your feelings over text with new women. If the chemistry was good you should have went in for the kiss.

So now that you've thrown the ball in her court. Just sit back, wait and don't push it. If nothing happens, move on.
 
Last night however, in a text conversation, I mentioned to her that I wanted to kiss her that night. She says something along the lines of, basically, er dude we're not a couple. Completely threw me off.

don't do that, don't tell her "yeah if I was a man and had the courage I would have kissed you, I guess"
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Whoops I thought the guy was talking about my my positive results not AHealy's.

Also I was browsing through that Aziz Ansari book at the store today and there was a section about the generic message, basically saying that it's not worthwhile doing unique messages when you could've spent the time on sending out 5 messages in that time. I mean this is all new to me but it seems like it's a jungle out there brothers. Statistics and everything.

Buy that damn book and not from Amazon. It is very interesting.

Modern Romance by Aziz Ansari. It is absolutely fantastic.
 
Buy that damn book and not from Amazon. It is very interesting.

Modern Romance by Aziz Ansari. It is absolutely fantastic.

Got it earlier! Looking forward to digging in.

Okay so about that generic message, I'll put up the type of message I was sending, perhaps the guy earlier was right and my previous openings just sucked. Here's one I sent:

Hey Name! I love your second picture, where was it taken? I've been doing yoga for a couple of weeks now, when can I expect to get as good as you? And I think you just had a bad guitar teacher!

She had a pic of herself in some snowscape, was doing some sort of complex yoga pose and said her biggest disappointment was being unable to play guitar. So I know it's not a fantastic message but I wouldn't say it's creepy. And it's in English. Those are the type of messages I would send all the time so not a one off. too short? Too many questions? I don't know!
 
If I'm only interested in casual flings/hookups, what should I put on my Tinder profile?
Nothing. I feel like you should specify if you're looking for something serious on Tinder. I haven't met girls off there, but friends who have it's always been something casual. Even though many have gotten into serious relationships, its reputation is still as a hookup app.

As for me, just asked a girl out on POF. Been a while since I've been messaging with a girl I genuinely wanted to meet, so I'm a little nervous. She hasn't been online today, so hasn't replied. It's hard trying to strike that balance between striking while the iron's hot and taking too long. Just don't want to do what I did a few weeks ago; dragged my feet on asking a girl out and she totally lost interest.
 
Cute girl on Tinder messaged me first (just a 'hey', but still), and I've got her number and organised drinks tomorrow night.

She's told me three times now that I'm adorable/cute.

I have had no luck on Tinder in the year or so I've used it so hey, fingers crossed :p
 
Cute girl on Tinder messaged me first (just a 'hey', but still), and I've got her number and organised drinks tomorrow night.

She's told me three times now that I'm adorable/cute.

I have had no luck on Tinder in the year or so I've used it so hey, fingers crossed :p

She's probably a big ol' dude.

Well done, enjoy :)
 
At the end, we're on the train platform heading home joking about something before a moment of silence. "What are you thinking about?", she asks with that eye-locking thing again. Obviously I'm thinking about kissing her but I don't say that because it's silly.
Obviously. That would have been really sil-

Last night however, in a text conversation, I mentioned to her that I wanted to kiss her that night. She says something along the lines of, basically, er dude we're not a couple. Completely threw me off.
...Oh.

Okay so, you should have kissed her and you probably realize that, but you really should not have brought that up with her, especially not over text. What did you expect her to respond with? It's an awkward thing to hear, and it completely threw her off, which is why she responded the way she did.

That she says she's not looking for anything doesn't matter. You met on a dating site, you're flirting, you're having a good time together; it would be completely appriopriate to kiss her, and her actions suggest she wanted you to. Actions > words, always. Anyway, if there's a way to salvage this and she wants to meet you again, you should never bring that moment or that text conversation up again. Next time just kiss her.

Honestly I'm pessimistic on your chances because I've been there in my younger years: 1) Missed a kissing opportunity with a girl. 2) Went on a date with her and told her I wanted to kiss her before. 3) Awkward level over 9000. 4) Never saw her again after that. It's the most cringeworthy moment of my dating life. I hope things work out better for you.
 
The messaging back and forth endlessly gets a little tiring

How long do you usually wait, before asking for the date?

I'm 50/50 using okc/pof

Oh and this girl I have been texting for about 5 days. I mentioned that I had lived with my previous 2 gf's...then she texts these 2 in a row

"I wouldn't live with someone before marriage. My preference"

"Waiting for sex now too for marriage"

I was so blown that I never ate dinner
 
What's the accept rate?

And how long are these messages? I'm talking like 2-3 days, 4-5 days, etc...

9 out of 10 times?

This is within the same day we begin messaging. Two at most if she/I'm busy.

I should say this is for Tinder.
 
Your objective on any online platform is to get away from the platform as the main means of communication ASAP. So get their number, start texting, and then ask them out.
 
Nope, not that guy but I knew I read those tactics some where on GAF before, must have been his post. Guess we just operate on the same wave length (good or bad lol)


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Your objective on any online platform is to get away from the platform as the main means of communication ASAP. So get their number, start texting, and then ask them out.

I know that, but I've a lot of times when I ask within the first 3 days, I get ghosted.
 
I know that, but I've a lot of times when I ask within the first 3 days, I get ghosted.

What I do is if we're hitting it off, I don't ask for their number, I say "By the way, if you wanna text instead, my number's X" I've had so much more luck with giving women my number instead of asking for theirs. I never let conversations go in Tinder for 3 days. It's usually within the first hour of talking that I give them my number and we move to texting.
 
^That works too. I usually say "tinder kills my battery, text me XXX."

People are going to ghost/not reply. That is the nature of dating. Just be glad they aint wasting your time.
 
What I do is if we're hitting it off, I don't ask for their number, I say "By the way, if you wanna text instead, my number's X" I've had so much more luck with giving women my number instead of asking for theirs. I never let conversations go in Tinder for 3 days. It's usually within the first hour of talking that I give them my number and we move to texting.
That's exactly almost word for word what I do. Ive always gotten the text shortly after..."Hey, it's xxx from *insert app here* :)"
 
^That works too. I usually say "tinder kills my battery, text me XXX."

People are going to ghost/not reply. That is the nature of dating. Just be glad they aint wasting your time.

I'd put a lot of emphasis on that last sentence. Yeah it sucks to think it's going well with someone and they'll just unmatch or ignore you, but in the end they're doing you a favor by not stringing you along or anything.

That's exactly almost word for word what I do. Ive always gotten the text shortly after..."Hey, it's xxx from *insert app here* :)"

Yep! It works every time as long as you find the right time to send it.
 
I never really ask random girls for their numbers in public, but there's this really cute girl that works as a cashier at Food 4 Less by my house. Lightskinned Latina with a big bootie, yum yum.

So anyways, 2 nights ago I go in there right before they close to snag some stuff and ended up in her aisle. We made small talk and at the end I asked her if she wanted to go eat sometime and she said yes and there was a couple of seconds of "who is giving digits to who" and as she reached for the pen and paper I said "oh yeah, that's perfect, I'm kind of oldfashioned" and she laughed. I told her "Better not be the Rejection Hotline!" And she laughed and said she'd never heard of that before.

So anyways, yesterday I texted her, chatted her up and then asked if she wanted to go get fat and eat sweets at a bakery. She said she was going to see her cousin's band play at a bar in North Park at 10 but that we could meet up at 8 and go. So she came over, we drove to the bakery, vibes were REALLY gellin', we hit it off so well. So we came back to my place where my brother is staying with me and all sat down to enjoy some DriveClub on the OLED which she did surprisingly good at. A friend of mine ahowed up and she ended up inviting me to go see her cousin play so we left my brother and friend to play as we went out.

Roll up to the bar, everything is jiving, we had a great time and a few drinks. Head back to my place, go in the bedroom and lay down buzzed and chatting. After a while we started kissing and she got pretty fired up. One thing led to another, I ate that pussy and she came REALLY fast, in 2-3 mins, and she's moaning into the pillow while inside I'm like "I KNOW those motherfuckers out there have to be hearing some crazy shit, oh well" as we continued.

It was actually really good sex and she was a good kisser so the kissing chemistry is on point. I think the only thing that mildly freaked me out is that she's on birth control and she wanted me to blow my load in her so I did. Fuck it. 🤔

Anyways GAF, I highly recommend and encourage the "no fucks given" approach and just talk to a girl like she's just a cool friend of yours and don't be afraid to slip in an invite, if she says no, there'll be another onr at another place or tomorrow. But don't give up just because of one "no", even though I know how crushing it can be.
 
It was actually really good sex and she was a good kisser so the kissing chemistry is on point. I think the only thing that mildly freaked me out is that she's on birth control and she wanted me to blow my load in her so I did. Fuck it. 🤔

This could easily be the intro post to another GAF thread in about 8 weeks.
 
So, I didn't really like that pic that I posted of myself a few days ago cause I look too wooden. Is it better if I just crop it a bit to make it seem more natural? Like this?
 
I never really ask random girls for their numbers in public, but there's this really cute girl that works as a cashier at Food 4 Less by my house. Lightskinned Latina with a big bootie, yum yum.

So anyways, 2 nights ago I go in there right before they close to snag some stuff and ended up in her aisle. We made small talk and at the end I asked her if she wanted to go eat sometime and she said yes and there was a couple of seconds of "who is giving digits to who" and as she reached for the pen and paper I said "oh yeah, that's perfect, I'm kind of oldfashioned" and she laughed. I told her "Better not be the Rejection Hotline!" And she laughed and said she'd never heard of that before.

So anyways, yesterday I texted her, chatted her up and then asked if she wanted to go get fat and eat sweets at a bakery. She said she was going to see her cousin's band play at a bar in North Park at 10 but that we could meet up at 8 and go. So she came over, we drove to the bakery, vibes were REALLY gellin', we hit it off so well. So we came back to my place where my brother is staying with me and all sat down to enjoy some DriveClub on the OLED which she did surprisingly good at. A friend of mine ahowed up and she ended up inviting me to go see her cousin play so we left my brother and friend to play as we went out.

Roll up to the bar, everything is jiving, we had a great time and a few drinks. Head back to my place, go in the bedroom and lay down buzzed and chatting. After a while we started kissing and she got pretty fired up. One thing led to another, I ate that pussy and she came REALLY fast, in 2-3 mins, and she's moaning into the pillow while inside I'm like "I KNOW those motherfuckers out there have to be hearing some crazy shit, oh well" as we continue.

It was actually really good sex and she was a good kisser so the kissing chemistry is on point. I think the only thing that mildly freaked me out is that she's on birth control and she wanted me to blow my load in her so I did. Fuck it. 🤔

Anyways GAF, I highly recommend and encourage the "no fucks given" approach and just talk to a girl like she's just a cool friend of yours and don't be afraid to slip in an invite, if she says no, there'll be another onr at another place or tomorrow. But don't give up just because of one "no", even though I know how crushing it can be.

God birth control Is amazing ain't it. Nothing better then a girl telling you to blow your load in her Hahahaha. My gf ran out of bc and we resorted to condoms past couple weeks and I forgot how terrible condoms feel. Got like 4 different brands.
 
God birth control Is amazing ain't it. Nothing better then a girl telling you to blow your load in her Hahahaha. My gf ran out of bc and we resorted to condoms past couple weeks and I forgot how terrible condoms feel. Got like 4 different brands.
Hahaha yeah. Guy I'm sorta seeing was like "I can't get off with condoms" my reply was "sucks for you lol"
He also wasn't that great.
Now the guy I've spent this weekend with? Amazing even with rubbers. Idk why there's such a difference.
 
Alright so last night with the Tinder girl I stopped texting at her "Sounds good, it's a date ��" message, with how flakey people can be on Tinder should I send a simple "See you tonight" or something, or just turn up at the bar and hope for the best?

Edit: Ok I texted her and she replied "Oh shit I forgot, sorry I'm sick". Flake central as usual :p
 
Alright so last night with the Tinder girl I stopped texting at her "Sounds good, it's a date ��" message, with how flakey people can be on Tinder should I send a simple "See you tonight" or something, or just turn up at the bar and hope for the best?

Edit: Ok I texted her and she replied "Oh shit I forgot, sorry I'm sick". Flake central as usual :p
On to the next one!
 
So that date l mentioned last night.

Didn't start off so well cause she was 15 minutes late. We'd only talked a little on PoF and I didn't have her number or anything so I was thinking I'd just have to go home. I was like I missed the FA Cup for nothing. But she did turn up. She was very cool altogether, dressed all in black and a little deaf in one ear from punk concerts, which I thought was cute. She was also Polish which I didn't know.

We drank in a few different bars and ended up dancing at 2am. Well my dancing is just like moving up and down a bit but still. Earlier she'd mentioned fetishes and dark secrets and the like and we were both making excuses to touch each other. Well she didn't make an excuse she just felt me up. So a lot of signs, right? Anyway anytime I've kissed a girl she's had to initiate (I know, I know) but because of all that went before and how close we were getting dancing I bit the bullet and went in for a kiss. She made this disgusted face and pushed me away and kinda spat on the floor. Just kidding! She kissed me back and we made out and groped each other for ages.

Anyway ended up back at her place and had sex. I'm sure it wasn't the best for her but like I lasted over 2 minutes and there were two positions so that's a porn star performance from me. Slept a bit etc before I left at 5:30.

She had the no commitment thing on her profile so I'm guessing I won't hear from her again. But I sent her a message today saying a had a great time and gave her my number. Was a great night altogether.

Is this dating.
 
Two successful dating stories on one page? I never thought this was possible for Dating-Gaf.

Kiever, glad you had a good time! Congrats on your seemingly amazing sex performance.
 
God birth control Is amazing ain't it. Nothing better then a girl telling you to blow your load in her Hahahaha. My gf ran out of bc and we resorted to condoms past couple weeks and I forgot how terrible condoms feel. Got like 4 different brands.

Your username scares the fuck out of me 😓
 
Oh hey a Dating thread, might as well rant a bit

So I'm kinda going through this weird process right now, maybe it's the crippling loneliness or whatever but I think I might be trying too hard. I've never had a true relationship in my lifetime (I'm 25) but I've kind of gone out of my comfort zone at times.

Anyways I think I'm just going to sum up my March- May for you all to see where I'm at.

Now I guess before I dive deeper, I will admit that I knocked off an item on my bucket list and that was sex with an older woman (she was fantastic btw) and that really was a refreshing experience.

March 2016: Notice a 41 year old woman checked out my profile on OKC, I message her, things take a flirtatious turn and I basically end up asking me if she could teach me more things in the bedroom and she agreed, so I went over to her place (she's divorced) over the course of two weeks (last week of March, first week of April) and she really got my confidence up sexually. We hooked up the first night we met lol. Never had done something like that before. It was an amazing feeling.

April 2016: So I meet up with the 41 year old on April Fools day of all days and we have sex again and it's basically more of the same and I'm basically hooking up with a 41 year old woman but it's fantastic but I realize I'm going to have to move on eventually, which leads up to the following

I start talking to this girl on OKC, this time she's around my age (23) and we hit it off and make plans to go out, but we got deep into the shit when doing conversation over text and I had to admit to sleeping with the 41 year old. So before we go out, she tells me I need to break it off with the 41 year old, so I do. The lady wishes me good luck and that's the last word we spoke. I haven't seen her since. I probably was going to need to stop eventually anyways.

So anyways I finally go out with this new girl (the one around my age) and we hit it off and plan a 2nd date. The 2nd date is where things went south, first of all, she didn't want to kiss in public after we had kissed a couple times before but I respect that but it was awkward. Then she ordered a dip with pesto and I had to have her send it back because I'm allergic to pesto (random but part of the story). Anyways, the date is kind of awkward and I'm kinda like "Am I really into this girl?".

Then we start talking about summer concerts, there were two concerts later in the months I was looking forward to and I told her it would be cool if she wanted to go (this comes back to bite me later). So we go back to her place, I kiss her goodnight and head home.

The following day she texts me that she felt like I was moving too fast when I mentioned the concerts months in advance (it was just conversation, I wasn't saying "HEY I WANT YOU HERE WITH ME ON THIS DAY") and we basically call it quits after that. Who's in the wrong here? Me or her? Most of my friends sway towards me but they are my friends.

Did I self sabotage another relationship? Do I always do this shit? That's the last date I've been on, it was April 30th.

So here's where I'm at right now, I'm not going back to the 41 year old (though she was great) and I'm really not into the whole dating bullshit all over again. I guess I really want a FWB around my own age but I've had an uphill battle there. I also wouldn't deny hooking up with an older woman again. I used to be all about commitment and relationships but now, I just want someone to drink beer, play video games, and fool around with.

Complete 180.

Anyways that's all I got to contribute, I've had an interesting dating history, surprised that one girl dealt with my baggage. I have no idea where to go from here. Hookup sites are bullshit and I don't want to do one night stands, I just want something solid that's casual but not like we have to monitor each other every single damn day.
 
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