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I've only went on one internet date and it was pretty weird. We flirted, but girl got really moody when I didn't text her straight away in the morning, then straight up asked if I liked her or not the following day.

Yeaaaaah no.

How old was she? I've heard this is a thing for some older women dating (not going to mention an age range, but there is a certain range where this amplifies for some women. Not all, just some), they don't mess around and like to know where things stand almost straight after a date.
 
I was back at the book store (that's where I hang) and I saw a girl looking at the Aziz book and I was thinking of trying to somewhat formulate a quip or introduction but then I was like she never even swiped me in some way so probably finds me gross. Then I looked back and she was gone. I'll never approach in a non internet way I'd say.

Speaking of swiping I was going down an escalator and the girl in front/on the below stair had Tinder open and she was left swiping the fuck outta dudes. Like a second a guy. So I changed my main pic to me practicing the fine art of jiu jitsu to maybe catch the attention more. I dunno if that comes off as douchey but it might stand out more. My pervious main pic was a mirror selfie and it's been hard times so.
 
Set up a date with a chick at a bar this Saturday. It was originally going to be on Sunday but I went to a bar on Saturday night and ended up sleeping till 5 PM after getting home at 6AM on Sunday and was very, very hungover. I'm in two minds about actually trying to get into a relationship though- I feel like playing the field and banging more girls before I try settling down. I had no sex life (and still don't,lol) for the entirety of my late teens and most of my early-20s so that might be the reason why. I'll figure out what she's like and what she's looking for if/when I actually meet up with her I guess.

From the above posts I should try hooking up with older women just to smash :P Mostly into women my age or younger than me though.
 
Is it ever worth trying with someone again? It feels like they've changed a lot from before, they've been texting a good amount and really talkative... But then I went back and looked at the easy they acted before and why we had a falling out and don't know what to think. I kind of want to start creating distance again.
 
Is it ever worth trying with someone again? It feels like they've changed a lot from before, they've been texting a good amount and really talkative... But then I went back and looked at the easy they acted before and why we had a falling out and don't know what to think. I kind of want to start creating distance again.

What were the reasons it didn't work out the first time and what makes you think things will be different this time?

Specifics.
 
What were the reasons it didn't work out the first time and what makes you think things will be different this time?

Specifics.
We were both kind of crappy. I was going through really bad depression and just kind of spiraling, I think it freaked her the hell out and just distanced from me more and more. Than she started lying to me, she said I was bossy and controlling. I got upset and started accusing her of stuff, I mean maybe most of it was on me but she started acting really crappy towards me and then I kept acting crappy towards her where we were both so unhappy that we just had this cycle of it getting worse. She would like become real private about dating it was personal business and I was weird for asking and made her uncomfortable and stuff. Then we stopped talking for like the last year or two and like a week ago started talking again.
 
We were both kind of crappy. I was going through really bad depression and just kind of spiraling, I think it freaked her the hell out and just distanced from me more and more. Than she started lying to me, she said I was bossy and controlling. I got upset and started accusing her of stuff, I mean maybe most of it was on me but she started acting really crappy towards me and then I kept acting crappy towards her where we were both so unhappy that we just had this cycle of it getting worse. She would like become real private about dating it was personal business and I was weird for asking and made her uncomfortable and stuff. Then we stopped talking for like the last year or two and like a week ago started talking again.

Hmm, okay.

Who initiated contact and what's different about things this time? You're in a better place?
 
I was back at the book store (that's where I hang) and I saw a girl looking at the Aziz book and I was thinking of trying to somewhat formulate a quip or introduction but then I was like she never even swiped me in some way so probably finds me gross. Then I looked back and she was gone. I'll never approach in a non internet way I'd say.

Speaking of swiping I was going down an escalator and the girl in front/on the below stair had Tinder open and she was left swiping the fuck outta dudes. Like a second a guy. So I changed my main pic to me practicing the fine art of jiu jitsu to maybe catch the attention more. I dunno if that comes off as douchey but it might stand out more. My pervious main pic was a mirror selfie and it's been hard times so.

Discussed this with my fiancée, and she said that a picture that tells something about who you are is much better than a selfie. To that effect, that picture might be a lot better than a mirror selfie.

Set up a date with a chick at a bar this Saturday. It was originally going to be on Sunday but I went to a bar on Saturday night and ended up sleeping till 5 PM after getting home at 6AM on Sunday and was very, very hungover. I'm in two minds about actually trying to get into a relationship though- I feel like playing the field and banging more girls before I try settling down. I had no sex life (and still don't,lol) for the entirety of my late teens and most of my early-20s so that might be the reason why. I'll figure out what she's like and what she's looking for if/when I actually meet up with her I guess.

From the above posts I should try hooking up with older women just to smash :P Mostly into women my age or younger than me though.

Meh, I think you can find whatever at whatever age. Be sure to make up your mind before you meet her, though. If you're a person that's inclined to be in a relationship, but you feel a need to play the field, you should use this time when you're objective about it all and take a stand, then you can also communicate what you want clear at a later stage with this girl. Just know what you want with yourself, so do you don't stumble into a relationship then rue that you haven't had more casual sex. Then the grass is forever greener, and you'll just end up fucking everything up.

Is it ever worth trying with someone again? It feels like they've changed a lot from before, they've been texting a good amount and really talkative... But then I went back and looked at the easy they acted before and why we had a falling out and don't know what to think. I kind of want to start creating distance again.

Really hard to judge without more information. I feel it needs to be a quite some years in between for the thing that ruined it in the first place might have been something you've both grown out of. Otherwise it's likely just to be a repeat.
 
Hmm, okay.

Who initiated contact and what's different about things this time? You're in a better place?

She contacted me a couple months ago on facebook but was like super weird about it and I guess I was too because I hadn't talked to this person once in a like a year and a half. So it was like awkward short sentences and then she ghosted me and I so I replied back that if you're going to act like that then please don't bother messaging me anymore.

So then I kind of felt bad that maybe I was too harsh, like she reached out to me and it was weird as shit for me so maybe the conversation was that weird for her also. We also had been friends for like a little over 3 years before it. Actually I guess we've been talking like 2-3 weeks now. So then she texted me back because apparently she was at work and then we've been talking since.

I'm definitely in a better place, I have a better job, I've gotten help with my depression and some other things. I've dated more so I'm less awkward with that, better around people and just kind of grew as a person. I guess what's changed is just how we talk... Or like different how we talked at the end but she kind of immediately went back to how we used to talk. We talked sporadically for a couple days and then since then we've just been joking around and talking about random stuff we both enjoy since we had similar interests. And she's been initiating a lot where like this morning she texted me to say sorry that my team lost last night and hoped I have a good day today.

I guess I'm just wondering if it's ever worth trying that again or just keeping distance. I'm not even saying I necessarily want to date her, I think it's the weird juxtaposition where we're back in that old grove and it feels good but then I like snap back and remember shit that happened before and I don't know how to feel. Like is she just talking to me because she's lonely, or she matured, or this is all going to blow up in a month. I think the biggest thing for me was she was acting like everything was private in her life and I shouldn't ever ask about things to tell me she went on dates on recently and us talking about dating and stuff and like what we like about dating, what's frustrating about it, weird dates we've gone on, etc. I've always kind of leaned towards just never getting to close because there was clearly a reason you two broke up.
 
I personally wouldn't bother. It ended for a reason, you stopped talking for a reason, there was lying, distancing, ghosting, etc. Pretty much everything bad that could happen, happened.

There's too much history that could keep coming back up. You're in a much better place, why risk your development by allowing someone who was seemingly exacerbating your problems back into your life? Even if you feel it could work, the history between you both will keep coming back up.

Falling back into old habits is never a good sign. Falling into the same groove with someone it didn't work out previously is never a good sign. Things have changed for you, there's no guarantee things have changed on her end. She could still lie, ghost you at a whim, etc and that could lead to you spiralling/falling into old bad habits.

Just my opinion.
 
Trying to go back to something rarely works. There's windows of opportunity which can close pretty sharpish. I still see a girl I had a thing with last summer occasionally, it's just a fleeting moment (much as I'd like it to be otherwise, she was awesome!)
 
I personally wouldn't bother. It ended for a reason, you stopped talking for a reason, there was lying, distancing, ghosting, etc. Pretty much everything bad that could happen, happened.

There's too much history that could keep coming back up. You're in a much better place, why risk your development by allowing someone who was seemingly exacerbating your problems back into your life? Even if you feel it could work, the history between you both will keep coming back up.

Falling back into old habits is never a good sign. Falling into the same groove with someone it didn't work out previously is never a good sign. Things have changed for you, there's no guarantee things have changed on her end. She could still lie, ghost you at a whim, etc and that could lead to you spiralling/falling into old bad habits.

Just my opinion.

Yeah, that's kind of what I've been leaning towards so I've been trying to cut back the conversation and talk less. And I wouldn't say old habits really, I just meant more I was surprised we had stuff to talk about and conversation flowed so well over the past couple of days. It's not like it was some kind of habit we had.
 
Trying to go back to something rarely works. There's windows of opportunity which can close pretty sharpish. I still see a girl I had a thing with last summer occasionally, it's just a fleeting moment (much as I'd like it to be otherwise, she was awesome!)

I generally agree, but it can depend on how things ended. If they were amicable and you simply met at the wrong time, it's possible to try again but if they were going bad and ended on a pretty sour note, those are over and no amount of trying again will ever make those work.
 
Yeah, that's kind of what I've been leaning towards so I've been trying to cut back the conversation and talk less. And I wouldn't say old habits really, I just meant more I was surprised we had stuff to talk about and conversation flowed so well over the past couple of days. It's not like it was some kind of habit we had.

You could see how things go, but if this was me, I'd cut off all communication and just focus on the future. Focus on meeting someone I have no bad history with and not allow myself to become invested (however little it may be right now, it could and likely will deepen as you talk more) with someone it ended really badly with before.

Keep distancing yourself but be resolute in your decision to not go back into what was a bad relationship.
 
You could see how things go, but if this was me, I'd cut off all communication and just focus on the future. Focus on meeting someone I have no bad history with and not allow myself to become invested (however little it may be right now, it could and likely will deepen as you talk more) with someone it ended really badly with before.

Keep distancing yourself but be resolute in your decision to not go back into what was a bad relationship.
I think I still want to be friends since we seem to be in better places but I definitely want to keep it at a certain level so I'm not too involved with it. I usually just turn off notifications on them and it's been fine.
 
I think I still want to be friends since we seem to be in better places but I definitely want to keep it at a certain level so I'm not too involved with it. I usually just turn off notifications on them and it's been fine.

Has she said anything about what she wants? If you want to be friends, maybe make that clear so as there's no misunderstanding or drama later on down the line?
 
Has she said anything about what she wants? If you want to be friends, maybe make that clear so as there's no misunderstanding or drama later on down the line?
Nah, never been brought up. It's still early enough that is rather just let things ride out. For all I know it could blow up any minute and trying to force talking never works.
 
Back to the OkCupid Roulette.

Sent out four or so unique messages and even tried to used something from their profile. I don't like simplistic messages, I at least try to do something that required at least some effort. Let's see if anything turns up. Usually I get nothing in response lol.
 
Back to the OkCupid Roulette.

Sent out four or so unique messages and even tried to used something from their profile. I don't like simplistic messages, I at least try to do something that required at least some effort. Let's see if anything turns up. Usually I get nothing in response lol.

OkCupid is a total waste of time IMO. The girls on there are goofy ass weirdos with delusions of grandeur and pretentious as all hell in my experience.

If you just wanna fuck, POF. If you want a shot at meeting someone awesome, Tinder. If you want to waste your time writing messages to some girl's overinflated ego void, OkCupid.
 
Why do people think that using stuff from the profile will work? Women on dating sites can get dozens of messages a day and they get tired of seeing the same stuff over and over.

Better just to send something generic or totally off the wall instead of saying "hey I like Walking Dead too!" which will generate nothing but a yawn, if they even bother to read the message.

Online dating is a numbers game that you really shouldn't be putting a lot of effort into.
 
Why do people think that using stuff from the profile will work? Women on dating sites can get dozens of messages a day and they get tired of seeing the same stuff over and over.

Better just to send something generic or totally off the wall instead of saying "hey I like Walking Dead too!" which will generate nothing but a yawn, if they even bother to read the message.

Online dating is a numbers game that you really shouldn't be putting a lot of effort into.

Agree 100%. I use the same generic opener every time and I have no problem getting replies. Your pictures and profile do the work for you. Gradually see if the conversation gets more interesting from there, and then yeah, mention stuff in the profile for discussion.

Men usually do the messaging first but if some girl sent me an opener that tried too hard to be interesting or witty I'd ignore her, comes across as weird and try-hard IMO.
 
OkCupid is a total waste of time IMO. The girls on there are goofy ass weirdos with delusions of grandeur and pretentious as all hell in my experience.

If you just wanna fuck, POF. If you want a shot at meeting someone awesome, Tinder. If you want to waste your time writing messages to some girl's overinflated ego void, OkCupid.

Damn,, OKC wasn't so bad when I used it a couple of years ago.People would reply, it was easy to get numbers and even dates. Although there were some obvious attention seekers on there, they were very easy to pick out of the bunch, but damn if that's how bad it is now Really went downhill since huh?

And yeah, I can attest to Tinder being awesome. Met my current girlfriend through there and I feel pretty damn blessed I did all things considered...
 
Damn,, OKC wasn't so bad when I used it a couple of years ago.People would reply, it was easy to get numbers and even dates. Although there were some obvious attention seekers on there, they were very easy to pick out of the bunch, but damn if that's how bad it is now Really went downhill since huh?

And yeah, I can attest to Tinder being awesome. Met my current girlfriend through there and I feel pretty damn blessed I did all things considered...

Not really. Obviously, that guy's experience is his experience, but OKC was fine for me. Met my last three girlfriends, including the current one, on there. I had pretty much a perfect response ratio, never got ghosted, was never refused a number, and never had to resort to blasting SPMH's generic message. But it depends an awful lot on where you are. I'm in D.C., and I'd wager the quality of women is much higher and the level of bullshit much lower than many other places in the country.

What would really help, instead of generalizing, is finding out which services are best for which demographics in which areas. Perhaps Boston is the Bumble capital of the world and PoF is great in Portland. Who knows, really?
 
Hey guys, I'd like some feedback on pics I plan to put on Tinder, what's the best way to put em on here without any lurkers seeing? Imgur and put the links in email tags?
 
Still haven't gotten a date from Tinder even after revamping my pics
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basically relegated it to my "pass time while waiting for/on the bus" activity
 
Well this thread sure has been eye opening.

I'm learning so much.

Tell me about it. This and the online dating thread I would wager are responsible for 80% of my dating success. I went from never having kissed girl for real to having an awesome girlfriend in about a year.
 
So, went on a third date/drive before she went home after she just drove 5 hours from her hometown. I drove her car around, we talked the whole time (about 1.5 hours) so that part was fine.

We did kiss at the end, it was short and I'm pretty sure it was terrible on my part because I don't really know what I'm doing. Before this I've only really kissed girls when I was drunk. Obviously the only way to get better is to do it, but I'm thinking my inexperience is going to come through easily. This is the stuff I'm most worried about with women, I'm 28 with no experience, and I get worried about it.

Just venting, as I know there is nothing you guys can do for this specific issue.

Edit: I definitly shouldn't mention it in anyway right? Just say I enjoyed the night and had fun in a follow up text.
 
The more you think about it, the more you'll stress about it. It'll be a vicious cycle that'll make you freak out even more next time something like this comes up.

Don't bring it up via text. Watch kissing technique videos if you really need some pointers. Be confident, and just do it. How? Just do it. Don't think about it.

Next time you have to kiss: either don't bring it up and be casual about it. Or if you can pull it off (not everyone can), play it cute and say a pretty girl like her makes her a bit nervous (again, you have to be able to make this seem cute somehow, you have to say you're nervous without appearing nervous). Do not do this last part if the kiss goes well. You can also say that was just a practice run and have another go. Regardless of specifics, try to play it casual.
 
How do you guys deal with guilt over breaking up? I've been seeing this girl for 3 months and frankly, I just desire to be single/alone at this time and miss my independence more than anything.

She fell really hard for me and has told me there's no doubt about the way she feels about me, and for me it's a gigantic question mark over my head.

We almost ended it this past weekend, but I felt absolutely guilt ridden about it and couldn't get the words out. I'm not really experienced in being the dumper.
 
Can you foresee the relationship going anywhere? If not, you are effectively wasting her time and leading her on, even if she is happy with the current (temporary) arrangement. So yes, you will feel guilt over breaking up with someone who doesn't want to break up with you, but it is ultimately the right thing to do if that is what you really want.

But do you need to break up, or can the relationship give you a bit more space?
 
Can you foresee the relationship going anywhere? If not, you are effectively wasting her time and leading her on, even if she is happy with the current (temporary) arrangement. So yes, you will feel guilt over breaking up with someone who doesn't want to break up with you, but it is ultimately the right thing to do if that is what you really want.

But do you need to break up, or can the relationship give you a bit more space?

I think things progressed way too quickly in the beginning when we started seeing each other. Before I knew it she was spending the night at my place and things turned into a full on relationship very quickly.

Before this I was in a 6 year relationship that ended last Summer. The further things are progressing the more I don't feel ready for a committed relationship right now.
 
How do you guys deal with guilt over breaking up? I've been seeing this girl for 3 months and frankly, I just desire to be single/alone at this time and miss my independence more than anything.

She fell really hard for me and has told me there's no doubt about the way she feels about me, and for me it's a gigantic question mark over my head.

We almost ended it this past weekend, but I felt absolutely guilt ridden about it and couldn't get the words out. I'm not really experienced in being the dumper.

It sucks. I broke up with my girlfriend of 9 months back in March. But no matter how bad it sucks now, it's just gonna get harder and worse as time goes on if you're not feeling the relationship.
 
It sucks. I broke up with my girlfriend of 9 months back in March. But no matter how bad it sucks now, it's just gonna get harder and worse as time goes on if you're not feeling the relationship.

That's what I'm thinking too. I guess the only way to deal with it is to just bite the bullet on this one and be truthful about it.

I'm not totally unhappy with her and that is what makes it tough - yet, at the same time when I think about it rationally I see us ultimately being incompatible.
 
Alright, here goes nothing(quote post to see link). Put a fair few in there, which of these would be best? No animal pics though :/

 
Alright, here goes nothing(quote post to see link). Put a fair few in there, which of these would be best? No animal pics though :/

Damn good pictures! Pics 7, 9, 12, 13, and the last one are my top 5. I would use 9 as the main pic. I think people look better when they smile.
 
Nothing quite as disappointing as when you're messaging with a promising girl and she just straight up goes silent... I can see she's online now. Really disheartening.

I'm going to keep trying with online dating but my god is it hard work. Constantly having to work hard to parade yourself when if you got the opportunity to actually meet the person you'd probably have a way better chance of connecting.
 
Nothing quite as disappointing as when you're messaging with a promising girl and she just straight up goes silent... I can see she's online now. Really disheartening.

That's far from the worst thing that can happen.

Ghosting in the middle of making plans (seriously the most irritating part of online dating imo)

Conversation goes well...then silence when you ask for an off site way to contact her

Or you go on a date and you find out she is batshit crazy (my first TanTan date this Sunday)

Still worth it, but you do have to wade through lot of shit to get to the good stuff
 
That's far from the worst thing that can happen.

Ghosting in the middle of making plans (seriously the most irritating part of online dating imo)

Conversation goes well...then silence when you ask for an off site way to contact her

Or you go on a date and you find out she is batshit crazy (my first TanTan date this Sunday)

Still worth it, but you do have to wade througah lot of shit to get to the good stuff

Had all 3 of those things happen. Super fun! Particularly the last.

Keep on truckin'
 
Nothing quite as disappointing as when you're messaging with a promising girl and she just straight up goes silent... I can see she's online now. Really disheartening.

Not really. Don't even think twice about it. I hadn't hit up that girl I banged a couple pages ago since Saturday night and when I texted her today she never replied. Lol. I suspect she's playing hard to get, mirroring my response times, or just doesn't give a fuck. She might even think I don't give a fuck. If she never hits me up again, no big deal. I didn't invest more than a few hours. :) You should think of your situation the same way.

Who cares, really? These people are just flashes and blurs at the end, or not even worth remembering once you meet the right person.
 
Alright, here goes nothing(quote post to see link). Put a fair few in there, which of these would be best? No animal pics though :/


Your pics are actually great. I'd pick 7 as my main one. Then in order: last, the one with flag in the backgrounds (sorry don't know the flag), graduation, underwater. Just my opinion though, you'll probably do great with any of them. You have good pictures for sure.
 
I think things progressed way too quickly in the beginning when we started seeing each other. Before I knew it she was spending the night at my place and things turned into a full on relationship very quickly.

Before this I was in a 6 year relationship that ended last Summer. The further things are progressing the more I don't feel ready for a committed relationship right now.

It's just a clear sign that it's not working out for you. There's no reason to feel any guilt, because there's nothing wrong with two people not being right for each other, no matter in what direction that goes. You know what you feel like doing, and it's not being with her. It's kind of that simple, and it's good to rather see that it's good to not prolong things, making her uncertain, then dump her. Just be upfront. It's the best thing to do, and in that way absolutely nothing to be guilty about.
 
Nothing quite as disappointing as when you're messaging with a promising girl and she just straight up goes silent... I can see she's online now. Really disheartening.

I'm going to keep trying with online dating but my god is it hard work. Constantly having to work hard to parade yourself when if you got the opportunity to actually meet the person you'd probably have a way better chance of connecting.

It shouldn't really be hard work. Get their number and/or set up a date (always something cheap and casual like coffee or drinks) within the first few messages, don't bother texting/talking much (if at all) before the date, anything more than that is a waste of time and effort. If they give you an excuse like "it's too soon" or "I need to get to know you more" they're flakes that would never meet up anyway or if they're texting you a bunch of times they're probably clingy.
 
If we're talking communties on dating sites based on location, my success rate in Glasgow:

Tinder >>> Coffee Meets Bagel > POF > eHarmoney >>> Bumble > Happn > Match = OKC

CMB, POF and eHarmoney have had equal amount of dates, but I'm ranking them by amount of effort to get to that point.


The guy who described OKC earlier isn't far away here, I know another glaswegian here has had success, but I only get immensely long chat that just fizzles out naturally or dies when I try to push a date forward.


Good news is I'm slowly getting to the point where putting myself out there in real life is within reach, still think online dating is mostly an exercise in confidence, because I've not met anyone I'd consider going steady with yet.


I should be getting some good new photos in the coming weeks (including a kilt and a barcelona trip) so hopefully that'll freshen things up.
 
Bail? Bail...

Run for them there hills!
I did, she started acting really weird last night out of nowhere and I felt pretty happy it was done. Oh well, I tried.


Not really. Don't even think twice about it. I hadn't hit up that girl I banged a couple pages ago since Saturday night and when I texted her today she never replied. Lol. I suspect she's playing hard to get, mirroring my response times, or just doesn't give a fuck. She might even think I don't give a fuck. If she never hits me up again, no big deal. I didn't invest more than a few hours. :) You should think of your situation the same way.

Who cares, really? These people are just flashes and blurs at the end, or not even worth remembering once you meet the right person.
She's probably trying to figure out how to break it to you that you're a dad 😂
 
If we're talking communties on dating sites based on location, my success rate in Glasgow:

Tinder >>> Coffee Meets Bagel > POF > eHarmoney >>> Bumble > Happn > Match = OKC

CMB, POF and eHarmoney have had equal amount of dates, but I'm ranking them by amount of effort to get to that point.


The guy who described OKC earlier isn't far away here, I know another glaswegian here has had success, but I only get immensely long chat that just fizzles out naturally or dies when I try to push a date forward.


Good news is I'm slowly getting to the point where putting myself out there in real life is within reach, still think online dating is mostly an exercise in confidence, because I've not met anyone I'd consider going steady with yet.


I should be getting some good new photos in the coming weeks (including a kilt and a barcelona trip) so hopefully that'll freshen things up.

OKC worked for me but it took a really long time (2+ years, on and off). Didn't really get into Tinder and didn't try the others.

Edit: wait am I the Glaswegian you were talking about? I can't keep track of what I post anymore.
 
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