JSoup
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I recall it being said that since the Quel'Delar line is from a quest, we'll get all the version per standard.
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So....you're lowering the drop rate.......
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I recall it being said that since the Quel'Delar line is from a quest, we'll get all the version per standard.
So....you're lowering the drop rate.......
Pre-patch is not launch.
Disagree. There are so many options now to increase the leveling speed for players that want to blast their way up to 100. (Or just buy their way)
But for players that want to enjoy the content and level slow, before it was impossible.
This is a very welcome change, and it's already had a significant impact on my enjoyment of leveling.
Jag
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My guess is they anticipate a wave of brand new players and don't want them burning through content too fast.
Lanrutcon
Member
Like I said earlier, two modes ("I want slow" and "I've done this a zillion times before") would be ideal.
Plus, the new changes doesn't solve the low level dungeon issue: they're shit, because you get auto matched with people in heirlooms who just blaze through things anyway. If Bliz are serious about making the leveling experience meaningful again, then they need to add a "Random without heirlooms" option to the dungeon finder.
That would be nice.. for the four guys who want to do that.
Being on Dalaran this year (which was flagged for new players for over six months) has showed me that there's still a lot of first time players to this game. Certainly not as many as there once was (which is the biggest reason subscription numbers continue to decline), but still a substantial number, and considering that random dungeons can include people from any server, more than enough to support a function like that.
Unfortunately another thing I've seen is that the change to heirlooms costing gold has led a lot of leveling players to feel like they are something they should be working towards and buying while leveling, which to me is crazy. I think they should make it so you can only buy heirlooms at max level, but I can't see that ever happening now.
This is cool.
Just because they are new doesn't mean that they don't want to get carried through a dungeon.
This has been a sought after change for years now. I think it's timely that it's being released soon before the movie, but it has been a needed change regardless for a long time.
There currently are two modes though. Actually three modes.
Normal, with heirlooms, and purchased level. If you count the various experience potions and boosters there are even more ways.
If you are a veteran then you should be able to easily fund a new character to level up extremely quickly. And if you don't want to spend the money/gold then that's your choice ¯\_(ツ
_/¯ Also, random w/o heirlooms wouldn't work because of all the checks and guards needed to ensure that players don't enter with heirlooms. Do they check bags + stash? Do they limit you from leaving the dungeon? All kinds of loopholes would emerge for getting heirlooms into the dungeon. Not worth it imo. This was attempted in The Division and loopholes were found within 20 minutes.
Lanrutcon
Member
Uh...you're saying it wouldn't work if Blizzard leave loopholes? Then...don't implement it like crap maybe? let's not use The Division, a game so badly developed the exploit ridden state of the game was reported on non-gaming news sites, as an example.
Slagmines, Docks, Auchidoun & Skyreach can all be queued before level 100 (90, 92, 94, and 97)
Lanrutcon
Member
I leveled one of my 100s using treasures and rares. I downloaded an overlay, and went from zone to zone picking up treasures and hitting rares.
Indeed. I'm not the biggest fan of LFR but if it helps me get set bonuses more easily I'm all for it.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
have they said when the pre-patch is at all? i'm guessing late July.
Probably 4 weeks before the expansion
LFR will be mandatory for artifact power and class hall quests anyways
Jag
Member
A person on Reddit with a good track record of inside info put it at July 19.
jaundicejuice
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Being a new player without heirlooms, especially a caster, fucking sucks. Everything gets murdered before you can finish a single channel. I didn't want to be carried but I couldn't contribute if I wanted. Even if I had an insta-cast or two to throw out, my dps output was sad and meager but that's all you can do on trash mobs because they just melt. It's not until you get to a boss encounter you might be able to get out a full channeled spell. Maybe even two or three! It doesn't help that most of the full heirloom set wearing players running 5 mans leveling were absolute dicks. I particularly love the assholes that spam the damage report during or at the end of a 5 man run. No shit you're top dps, you're wearing a full BoA set with enchants while the rest are in quest earned gear. *slow clap*
Lomax said:
I understand why some new players might feel pressure to get heirlooms while leveling because of the current system. The Finder pairs you with a lot of players in full BoA gear and you basically can't do anything.
When I started out with WoD I would have loved an option just to play through dungeons without other players wearing BoA gear. Play with other new players? Yes please.
Had the same struggles. Just not fun at all.
Conversely I have been have a damn enjoyable time leveling up a fresh dwarf hunter. With the new leveling changes I decided to go through the experience without heirlooms or help from my main. It's been great being a "newb" again. Dalaran is a fun server for this too because of all the actual new players.
edit: I'm running Storyline too, which I think is essential for leveling.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Anyone else having an issue with the mobile armory app where it always says the realm is under maintenance regardless of realm so the AH can't be accessed?
I tried relogging and reinstalling but neither worked
I tried relogging and reinstalling but neither worked
Just tried on my end, no issues.
Jag
Member
Really? I'm pretty sure they disabled the Armory AH during the bot ban. Mine is still down too.
Jag
Member
Hmm, maybe I need to log out and back in.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
It's been unavailable for me for over a week now, though.
My Unholy DK randomly yells For the Alliance but I am not sure what skill causes it. Felt really random.
Glad I play without audio.
Bacon_Boss
Member
https://youtu.be/i1Y1QKd5KT8 WoWhead has a movie review, seems to be very interested in making it a fair and even review. Movie sounds good.
Yeah, they come in the mail. It's supposed to run for two months though, so if you were planning on coming back for 7.0 just wait and log in sometime within a month of that and they should wait for you in the mail until you reactivate.
I didn't play much in MoP, was this a big thing back then? Looking at where the tier drops and how the LFR wings are laid out, 4/6 of the tier pieces are in the last 2 wings that will open up.
jaundicejuice
Member
That's really neat but it sounds wrong for a Belf to yell that out. The Forsaken and Blood Elves should have different shouts, like "For the Dark Lady!" and "For Quel'Thalas!".
The female Orc sounded awesome though but they're already awesome, guttural and kind of frightening when screaming in battle.
It's a lot more out of character for a Goblin to yell it than any race, really
jaundicejuice
Member
I thought there was already a "For Kezan" yell in WoW for goblin units. I'm trying to remember where I heard it.
JSoup
Banned
The point wasn't the timing, but the comment about drop rate vs. rarity.