Right after Legend of the Dragoon 2 and Legend of Legaia 3.
Oh and Jade Cocoon 3.
Sony E3 2016 Press Conference: June 13 at 6 PM PT/ 9PM ET
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Oh and Jade Cocoon 3.
Blackleg-sanji1
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This is straight pipe dreams lol. Ape escape has a better chance.
Lol. How would you know.
Blackleg-sanji1
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They don't have talent to waste because they don't have that talent that made what Jak and Crash is what it is. Those people are gone. I mean look at that Jak 4 concept art. They are all just just serious realistic game making devs now.
How would I know? Their documentary for their 30th anniversary.
SolidSnakex
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This is honestly a misconception. Bruce for example has been there since the PSone days and Neil since the PS2. Neil at one time was even working on a Jak PSP game while a separate team worked on Uncharted. And Justin Monast, Malcolm Hee, Erick Pangilinan, Charlotte Francis Morgan and many others have been there since the PSone/PS2 days as well. That's not to say that there aren't others that are now gone like Jason and Andy, but I think they still have the talent to make it if that's what they want to do.
Jak looked so different because they really didn't want to make it at the time. Whenever they completed Uncharted 2 they started that second team and they were given Jak to work on. Neil and Bruce eventually went to Evan and Christophe (the co-presidents of ND) and asked them if they had to make a new Jak, and they told them no and that they simply gave them Jak so that they'd immediately have something to work on. That's where TLoU started.
I don't know man. I really don't think they have that within them anymore. After when jason and Andy left after Jak 1, you could see that transition from lightheartedness to something gritty and somewhat mature. Now they just full making grounded realistic mature games.
Sangetsu-II
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Jason and Andy left after Jak 3.
The only problem with Crash is if it's developed by a small studio, like Sucker Punch or Sony Bend, because then I would be concerned that if they weren't making Crash, they could be doing something else. ND, or several other studios, wouldn't have that problem. Wasn't Tearaway developed by a very small team within Media Molecule? They were still able to work on Dreams alongside it. It'd probably be similar with Crash, just by a different studio, a small portion of the studio would work on it.
My theory for ND would be to try a 2 team structure again, the new and small team working on Crash first, so Sony's not putting a lot of resources into a huge game that could fail like what happened with SSM, and if they put out a successful Crash, have them move onto another game, maybe start a new IP, as the main team is well on their way with TLOU2.
My theory for ND would be to try a 2 team structure again, the new and small team working on Crash first, so Sony's not putting a lot of resources into a huge game that could fail like what happened with SSM, and if they put out a successful Crash, have them move onto another game, maybe start a new IP, as the main team is well on their way with TLOU2.
Coming from a period after the release of GTA (3 and Vice City), Max Payne (1+2), MGS2 and Silent Hill 3, just to name a few, ND and most likely SCE must have seen some kind of trend that was heading towards more mature character-driven story in games. Hence why I think they brought those changes to the Jak and Daxter series.
Although, with the Uncharted series, they were able to lighten the mood a little bit. So it would not be too far fetched to think they could pull it off in a certain way. Given that the last Uncharted (A Thief's End) was a bit darker than the rest of the series, something tells me that their next game could be lighter in terms of mood (hopefully). Despite the usual acclaim from gamers and critics alike, I doubt people would be down for another emotionally charged game from them anytime soon.
funkystudent
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Crash is happening.
Who is making it is what will make it is the deal.
With Toys to Life fading I can imagine this new Crash being some Activsiion put someone from that machine on which would not be something to get excited about.
Blackleg-sanji1
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You joke but people will still find a way
Well then.. thanks for bringing me even more dow-... you know what... I'd like to be proven wrong. I wanna see if ND can even make a light hearted game. Doesn't have to be Crash or Jak. I want to see a new light hearted stylized ungrounded IP from ND. But, they're probably stick to the contrary since a lot of people expects them to be that way and make games like that from now onwards.
I guess I'm being all like this since I'm sick of these types of games.
If Sony is overseeing the game and it's a PS4 exclusive, I doubt it'll be another take on Skylanders. They know what people want.
Since Toys-to-life are starting to tremendously lose in popularity... you are most likely right.
Well Activision has refused to put Crash into Skylanders and its already five games in.
They would no way in hell celebrate 20 years with something like that and disappoint the fans. Especially with everything going on recently.
funkystudent
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I dont think it will be a Toys game.
I think activision will see it as a "hey. Skylanders is kind like Crash. You make it"
The Skylanders 3DS game from a few years back I heard is the closest to Crash's gameplay. I haven't played the console games (stopped after the first) so I can't judge them on experience.
Worst case scenario is something like the Donkey Kong and Bowser edition toys to promote the Crash game they're hinting but I don't see that happening.
Yeah I heard Skylanders Superchargers didn't to do as well as past iterations.
As someone who isn't concerned with Crash, what are people wanting exactly?
Do people want the linear PS1 game design but with better graphics?
Do people want a complete reboot so it's more like a Banjo/Mario platformer?
I want something that's true to original three games. I don't mind if it's linear like the old games or open like Jak, I'd just want something that isn't medicore and I'd like Mark Cerny to part of the games development.
If I remember correctly, did mark do some of designing, producing, and consulting for Ratchet,Jak, uncharted, Crash and Spyro?
Yea, pretty much this.
Now that I think about it... what if ND didn't include a node to Activision still owning the Copyrights of the Crash Bandicoot games in the credits of UC4, because they already credited SCE/SIE when the game boots for the first time. That or we are getting PS1 classics on PS4, available during the Sony E3 press conference.
as long as I get a mix of linear levels Im good.
I don't think Sony would drum up so much noise for just some ports. I mean, sure we could be getting those but we can also get a new game along with it too.
Napalm_Frank
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If Crash does well (after Ratchet already succeeding) it definately bodes well for stuff like Ape Escape, Sly and Medievil.
It's just a damn shame games like Tearaway and Puppeteer didn't succeed.
It's just a damn shame games like Tearaway and Puppeteer didn't succeed.
Spyder_Monkey
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I'm still confused why Activision would just give up Crash Bandicoot like that. Sure the series hasn't been relevant in like 15+ years but an IP such as this still has value to it.
SolidSnakex
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They wouldn't just give it up. If Sony has the IP or eventually gets it back it'll be because they paid Activision for it. So the big question would be how much does Activision think the brand is worth? And then probably add some more to it because it's worth more to Sony than anyone else.
I'm sure it would be part of a much bigger deal between Sony and Activision. How many Destiny or CoD:BO3 PS4 bundles have been sold? Millions? It could be as simple as Sony giving an extra $.50 or $1 per bundle sold, and Activision giving Crash to Sony in exchange.
The same thing could be said for a Spider Man game by Sucker Punch by tying it to the movie deal. Although in that case, both Disney and Sucker Punch win. A Spider Man game by Sucker Punch would likely sell more than Infamous SS and The Amazing Spider Man 2 combined. Win Win for both Sony and Disney.
DriftingSpirit
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lol
nah spider-man probably isn't happening. also no offense to crash fans I would just rather see something new and I'm sick of Sony teasing everyone with it and not following through
They don't need to give up Crash.
Assuming it's happening in the most likely scenario Activision will keep the IP, they will license it to Sony to develop the game.
Sony will get the exclusive, Activision will get money for each copy of the game Sony will sell.
Considering how close Sony and Activision have got with their COD and Destiny deals this seems to be the best moment for something like this to happen.
Indeed the biggest problem it's how a new Crash would fit in the Naughty Dog development pipeline and if they feel they have new ideas to bring the series back. For example with J&D we know they tried but preferred to scrap it.
GIANKRATOS
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As a Huge fan i want something like the first three games (or ctr, but they need to reintroduce the bandicoot before making a new ctr entry imho).
Keep it linear. I want Crash, not Jack (well i would also love a jak game lol). Keep the levels short, fun and intense like in the originals. Improve the controls, find the right balance between platforming levels and vehicles levels, add some new challanges and or some new mechanic and maybe an online leaderboard for the time challanges. Now add a fun but simple story (bring back the Old enemies and add some new one), a great soundtrack like the previous games and 2016 graphics.
Ah the Crash design obviously needs to be like the original.
Boom. The perfect Crash game.
I also NEED an "Hog wild" level with the same music and the same Crash animation at the beginning. Then i could die happy.
I hope your dreams never come true and all the franchises you hold dear to you turns into shit. Jk.
Honestly why do people have to be like "fuck that franchise and their fans, make a game for me!"
I wonder if saying I don't want a game will actually make it happen. Time to try this out...I don't want:
- Crash
- Agent
- Playstation All-stars reboot (with some of the former Project M guys helping work on it)
- Shenmue 1 & 2 HD Collection
Undead Fantasy
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Why? I never cared for it but I have no problem with a new game. Fans deserve it.
I never said any of that
DriftingSpirit
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You didn't have to.
GribbleGrunger
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I think the biggest misconception is that cartoony like experiences can't be as deep and as meaningful as drama. Given the right production values, another Crash or J&D could be up there with films like 9 or Wall-E. I'd like to see ND take that challenge to be honest.
Callibretto
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honestly, my imagination of current gen Crash would basically be Jak and Daxter
No but you were pretty close.
And yet ND wont touch it. Neither will any other studio that could produce that level of quality. If it happens at all, I bet it will be Sony JP and maybe even Cerny.
Because the franchise had more than enough titles. There wasn't a loose end or anything else like with Shenmue for example. It even had a spinoff to a damn cart game. I rather have the devs being creative and come up with something new and original like Pupeteer than seeing those resources used for yet another Crash. The original devs and their vision moved on, so should some players.
Sangetsu-II
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You would be seeing something new because it would not be the same as the old game or are you telling me there would be no difference?
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