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NBA Finals 2016 |OT| - The King demands seconds. The Chef delivers.
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bigmit3737
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Does anyone remember how kyrie was playing the pick and role last year before he was injured? I thought I remember him closing out pretty well , but I can't tell if my mind is playing tricks on me.
Love is going to be a huge liability on defense of curry and Klay keep hitting their 3s.
If someone they can those two in foul trouble...
I wonder if they will try to do that.
Love is going to be a huge liability on defense of curry and Klay keep hitting their 3s.
If someone they can those two in foul trouble...
I wonder if they will try to do that.
Bam Bam Baklava
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If your intent is to make this thread relive exactly what happened in the last 2 pages I guess now would be my turn to post the video of James Harden getting a block as proof that he's an incredible defender.
Why not, it's relevant seeing as it's from the finals last year, and he blocked Curry a 2nd time in the same game.
https://youtu.be/PZRVrK0WKRI?t=8m11s
Bam Bam Baklava
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Why not, it's relevant seeing as it's from the finals last year, and he blocked Curry a 2nd time in the same game.
https://youtu.be/PZRVrK0WKRI?t=8m11s
It's about as relevant as pointing to the two days it rains a year in Southern California and saying that means they get as much rain as Seattle. How about looking at the entirety of his career?
Joei
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Didn't he state that Kyrie had bad defense? He did play well that game and had some nice hustle plays.
Oh noes however will I compete with a weather analogy. Pardon me for being excited about the finals, and pointing out Kyrie blocking Curry twice in Game 1 of the finals last year before getting injured. How will this thread recover?
CassidyIzABeast
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When you type in "Kyrie Irving defensive highlights" on youtube the first video that comes up is D Rose locking Kyrie down.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Sho_Nuff82
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Was there a point to this, or did you accidentally link me to the general stats page on basketball reference?
Oh, you clarified later that stats don't matter. Okay.
Joei
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You're only allowed to speak in this thread if your post is directly related to analytics or somehow incorporates: loleast, warriors in 3, Lebron sucks.
Such a shame Kyrie went down. He was getting everything he wanted.Why not, it's relevant seeing as it's from the finals last year, and he blocked Curry a 2nd time in the same game.
https://youtu.be/PZRVrK0WKRI?t=8m11s
If you imply that Kyrie is a good defender, you should not be surprised to get responses pointing out that you're wrong.
NBA is an analytic driven league now, far more so than in the past. "Hot takes" and pure gut based predictions are useless and not worth anyone's time anymore in this era of basketball. Analytics and matchups are king. The rise of small ball and position-less basketball is a result of this.
Who drew those, his daughter
reggieandTFE
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Kyrie is not a good defender.
Joei
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I'm not against using analytics, I'm actually pro-analytics in devising strategy and I'm well aware of its importance and usage, however, I don't spend my free time reviewing the analytics for each player and team.
Does this mean I can't get on a casual message board and say go Cavs! I think they can win r/t their number one transition offense, their ball movement, Kyrie playing great O and showing up on D last finals? Or shit, go Cavs! Lebron James is the best in the league! Or is there no time for that?
SlackAdjuster
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lol
Lol
LeBron is an elite defender.
Draymond is an elite defender.
Klay is a great, teetering on elite defender.
Steph is a good defender.
Kyrie is a below average defender.
Love is a terrible defender.
Ninja Scooter
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Sure but if there is clear data and analysis that refutes the things you are saying people are going to call you out on it. There is nothing to suggest "Kyrie showing up on D" is a thing that happens or can be counted on. It's just something you said because it sounds nice or because you saw a couple of highlights on YouTube, but that doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. It's just something you want you believe so you'll find evidence that supports it and ignore evidence (and mountains and mountains of it) that doesn't.
Joei
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I'm well aware he doesn't play great defense. I think everyone everywhere is well aware he doesn't play great defense. Doesnt mean he hasn't at times.
There is absolutely no stats that back this up, at all.
Ninja Scooter
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Not everyone.
Russell Wesrbrook is not a good three point shooter. But he has made three point shots from time to time. Possibly even two or three in a row. But if someone used those instances to say "see Russell Westbrook can be a pretty good three point shooter!" It would be laughable. Because he's not. He's awful, just like Kyrie on D.
i3allistic
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I stop taking NeoGaf NBA talk seriously....
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Knock off the hive-minding bullshit.
And a lot of the recent garbage posting is why I've seen these kinds of complaints from others about these threads.
Diprosalic
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is that one of those new captain america memes the kids are doing these days?
Yeah, as a die-hard NBA fan I've always found GAF NBA talk to be cringeworthy and I stay away from it.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
This is a sarcastic post making fun of some of the other hot takes earlier in the thread right?
Otherwise this just escalates the nonsense people are complaining about, and I'm not re-posting the earlier warning on every page.
So you can deem this as the last warning, open season moving forward.
Gully State
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Game day! I'm curious what kind of opening strategery both teams will employ. I have to think that the Cavs have some sort of answer for any pick and roll action Love will be involved in.
CopperPuppy
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If you keep saying this and posting that YT clip enough, maybe it will actually come true.
Most GAFers that knew what they are talking about don't post here now.
thehypocrite
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I never said that they don't. The reason why I posted that link was to illustrate the difference that persists between LeBron & KD.
ryutaro's mama
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This is true.
Future PhaZe
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It's going to be exactly the same thing as last year--LeBron dramatically slowing down the pace of the game by working through the post and letting Kyrie working off the gravity that creates.
This is not a series for Kevin Love and I see his minutes regressing from game to game.
if it counts for anything, lakers had the most fun to watch game of the season with kobe's last game.
PadWarrior
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I hope Ezeli can catch and hold onto a pass this series. Watching him last series was maddening.
PadWarrior
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Offensively, the Warriors' game plan should be is simple: Get the ball to whomever Kyrie Irving is guarding. Over the past two seasons, when Irving is matched up on Stephen Curry, the Warriors are scoring 117 points per 100 possessions. When Irving is guarding Klay Thompson, Golden State is scoring 115 points per 100 possessions.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/201...ow-golden-state-warriors-repeat-nba-champions
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/201...ow-golden-state-warriors-repeat-nba-champions
Joei
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I'm curious as to what the staff does in regards to that. What kind of help do they offer defensively when he's on the floor? Or do they hope for a trade off regarding how the offense produces with him on the floor? I mean, you don't want to get into a shootout obviously, but you have to play Kyrie a good portion of minutes.
I'm also wondering how minutes Frye is going to get. His shot is falling and he's helping create space, and I think his size adds a lot defensively.
Kyrie isnt that bad defensively. Kyrie played great defense in last years finals.
Edit: of course he only played 1 game, but still. The warriors would lose with that gameplan.
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